Setup 2000 Mobius direct drive for best wake push

[chefred112]

Hey all, newbie here, I wanted to get some advice on boat setup for the best possible wake to surf on. My current config is the stock internal ballast as well as 400lb bags on on either side of motor as well as a 400 lb bag at the bow between the seats. Also, I made a diy wake shaper that helps immensely with the shape of wake (note: pic attached shows it much forward then the way we have it now which is farther back).... I do find that in order to get a clean wake I have to drive at about 15mph. I wish I could drive slower but wave is mushy below that. Although the wake seems nice i feel that there isn't any push coming from it... please advise if there is anything I can do to improve it.

thanks.... Fred

I will be attaching pics in next thread...

[Darter]

Interesting that you can't get a clean wake below 15. We only use the stock 400 below the bench and a wake shaper on the non-surf side at the furthest back position (right at the transom). With so little weight, the pocket is short, but it's pretty clean. I've found that a little bit of lean is necessary, even with the wakeshaper. Not a lot though. Maybe try only filling to 300lbs on the surf side of one of your side bags?

Also, if your surf side is the opposite of the driver, you'll need to counter the driver's weight.

[Darter]

Oh, and welcome to the forum! Would love to see your boat!

[chefred112]

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here are the pics...we moved the shaper back as far as we could (not the pic shown) to get the best result so far...

[chefred112]

when you say lean...do you mean lean towards the surfer side or shaper side?

[Darter]

You want the boat slightly leaning lower on the surfers side. Having the wake shaper reduces how much lean (or list) is needed. You need a lot of list without the shaper.

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[mckeddie]

I have a very similar setup and just purchased a 325lbs additional bag for the front that I have yet to try. 03 Mobius LS 800lbs stock ballast plus 2 X 400lbs right where you have them on either side of the engine. One additional variable is the prop, the guy I buy it from upgraded to a 3 blade ACME 1609 13x11.5 which seems to have a good balance of torque and top end. I usually set our Perfect Pass at 14-15 mph. In addition to the new bag for the front I bought a bit larger board to try as well to help with the lower overall push vs the newer/ larger V-drive boats.

[mckeddie]

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[kaneboats]

Have you checked your speed with GPS? You might be running 11.5 and the speedo is off. Either way, agree that you have to have a little list to the surf side. Deploy your gate on the opposite side-- it should wipe out the opposite wake and allow the surf side wake to "take over". Run up to about 9.5 mph and have a look. Increase speed by .3 -.5 at a time till you see the nice dark face of the wave.

[mckeddie]

Update- I tried out the new bag up front and it did seem to make much of a difference it terms of push. One big thing that changes were I checked the calibrate on my speedo and it was way off. I thought I was going 15 mph but I was really only going 11 according to a GPS app which I tested on the drive a felt was accurate. The wave seems nice a fairly dialed in at 11-12 mph but I tried a new (to me) 5' Rocket surfboard and it just didn't have enough push for me to let go. I might just need to get a better board to compensate for a persumabley softer DD wake. Thoughts?

[kaneboats]

Does your boat have an adjustable wake plate?

[zabooda]

Kudos for doing a DD setup.

[PatL]

I'm not familiar with how much of difference there is between the 2000 Mobius and 2005 Outback hull design. For the Outback we run more weight up front than it appears you are using right now. I run the big fly high bow sac in the front 800lbs I think and the 1500 lb u shaped bag in the back. Jordy from up north told me a couple years ago the outback really needs bow weight to make a good wave. He is definitely right about that. Once I got brave enough to run a big bag up front we were able to free surf even getting back off the boat pretty far for a DD. I will say we take some water over the nose coming back to pick up surfers but Ive learned to live with that trade off. We run a wake shaper much like yours about 2 ft off the transom. 10.5 mph on the perfect pass works best for me most of the time. Good luck sorting out the wave. Once you get it figured out its a lot of fun.