2015 mondo interior already coming apart?

[ybarbo17]

hey guys wondering if any of yall had any issued with your interior, bought mine in late 16 and my seats are already coming apart has anyone had this kinda issue yet?



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[jeffandjulia15]

Do you leave it in the sun uncovered? The sun can dry it out and do that. I apply Meguiar's Marine/RV Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner & Protectant like twice a year I think it makes a huge difference.


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[Stazi]

Do you leave it in the sun uncovered? The sun can dry it out and do that. I apply Meguiar's Marine/RV Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner & Protectant like twice a year I think it makes a huge difference.


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Damn....I hope you have been using a good vinyl conditioner on it regularly.

Either way I would talk to the dealer about a warranty claim.


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[Davpmars]

hey guys wondering if any of yall had any issued with your interior, bought mine in late 16 and my seats are already coming apart has anyone had this kinda issue yet?



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Mine has started doing that but it is a 2013... I keep it covered and I use vinyl conditioner but still happened last year. Not sure what to do...


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[ybarbo17]

yeah i keep it in a metal building/barn with my cars and i normally use boat bling sauce the entire time ive had it... and its been in and outta the shop for different stuff for the last month & half on a warranty issue dealing with my gauges.

[Stazi]

yeah i keep it in a metal building/barn with my cars and i normally use boat bling sauce the entire time ive had it... and its been in and outta the shop for different stuff for the last month & half on a warranty issue dealing with my gauges.

That sucks. See if you can send Drew Tinker an IM on FB. He’s the head honcho over there.


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[Horwitz]

My 2014 has terrible vinyl. I’ve been replacing seats slowly. My dealer and I talked to corporate and they said it was not their fault. It lives in a boathouse. Cracks started in 2016. This was the damage at the time. Back 3 cushions are totally apart now, and ALL others have cracks like this. Some 65k Boat!!!
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[Shoebox]

My 2014 has terrible vinyl. I’ve been replacing seats slowly. My dealer and I talked to corporate and they said it was not their fault. It lives in a boathouse. Cracks started in 2016. This was the damage at the time. Back 3 cushions are totally apart now, and ALL others have cracks like this. Some 65k Boat!!!
27265That's crazy. Something wrong there for sure. The vinyl in my 2014 Mondo is perfect.

[ghebert1111]

My 2014 has terrible vinyl. I’ve been replacing seats slowly. My dealer and I talked to corporate and they said it was not their fault. It lives in a boathouse. Cracks started in 2016. This was the damage at the time. Back 3 cushions are totally apart now, and ALL others have cracks like this. Some 65k Boat!!!
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I'm having the same issue in my 2014 Mojo. It is covered in a boat house or in my garage unless we are using it. All the vinyl seemed fine until it spent 6 months (Nov - May) at the shop, I assume uncovered and out in the elements. Now my 3 back cushions look like your picture. Interesting enough, the front cushions and swim deck, still look great.

[Horwitz]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/4bd20f0757d36ac96f29aec4f67b19b7.heic

This is what the 3 original back cushions look like now!!!! I use em for skiing only. When I have real friends come over i use the good cushions


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[Horwitz]

But I DO love my boat, don’t get me wrong. I just wish moomba would own up to the problem


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[Stazi]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/4bd20f0757d36ac96f29aec4f67b19b7.heic

This is what the 3 original back cushions look like now!!!! I use em for skiing only. When I have real friends come over i use the good cushions


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Holy shit that is terrible!!!!


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[zabooda]

Things haven't changed since the 1990s when everyone knew the quality of the upholstery but the price was right. Redo the skins and you'll be glad you did.

[Horwitz]

Things haven't changed since the 1990s when everyone knew the quality of the upholstery but the price was right. Redo the skins and you'll be glad you did.

Is that true? Do others agree?


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[ghebert1111]

Things haven't changed since the 1990s when everyone knew the quality of the upholstery but the price was right. Redo the skins and you'll be glad you did.

So what is the consensus on replacement. I priced replacements from local moomba dealer, the prices are at the bottom. Will these have the same quality issue? If so, what are some alternatives?


#13 - Skin: $197 Complete: $267
#15 - Skin: $139 Complete: $254
#14 - Skin: $154 Complete: $279
#17 - Skin: $228 Complete: $375
#26 - Skin $151 Complete: $279

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[Horwitz]

That sucks. See if you can send Drew Tinker an IM on FB. He’s the head honcho over there.


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They didn’t help me at all with my vinyl.



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[Shoebox]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/4bd20f0757d36ac96f29aec4f67b19b7.heic

This is what the 3 original back cushions look like now!!!! I use em for skiing only. When I have real friends come over i use the good cushions


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWow, that's bad. My 24 year old Seaswirl vinyl was better than that.

[zabooda]

Need to get it done with vinyl from an upholster higher quality and thicker. They can match up perfectly. Every year after winterizing the boat, I would pull the cushions that needed redone. It wasn't very expensive doing a few cushions at a time. There will be a time where Moomba skins won't be available so going to an upholster may be the only choice and cheaper also.

[DFTR Josh]

This is what the 3 original back cushions look like now!!!! I use em for skiing only. When I have real friends come over i use the good cushions
It appears your seats have caught an STD (sun transmitted disease)... DAMN

[98outback]

I hope my 2017 Mojo doesn’t end up like this. My 2003 Supra interior was great up til 2015. The seams finally started to split. I always put it up dry with a cover and out of the weather. I always hang damp rid and put the buckets in the boat to with the cover on and a fan that’s suppose to help. If I sold the Supra and this interior goes out in a couple years they better warranty it. It gets the same cleaning and conditioning that the Supra got and it lasted me all those years. Only in the sun on the weekends during the summer.

[c h r i s]

Interesting response from SC. I’m having very similar issues with my 2013 mojo and I can assure you I’m not putting it up wet or leaving it exposed to unnecessary sun.

[Horwitz]

It appears your seats have caught an STD (sun transmitted disease)... DAMN

Definitely not sun. My boat is always in it’s house. Wet, yes. I use my boat a lot so after skiing etc the cushions are going to be wet, even if you dry the surface. How can you say putting a Boat away after use is owner fault? What can a reasonable person do to dry a boats interior after use?


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[parrothd]

Definitely not sun. My boat is always in it’s house. Wet, yes. I use my boat a lot so after skiing etc the cushions are going to be wet, even if you dry the surface. How can you say putting a Boat away after use is owner fault? What can a reasonable person do to dry a boats interior after use?


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Do you dry all the seats with a towel?

[Horwitz]

Do you dry all the seats with a towel?

Yes. And wet vac the carpet


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[ghebert1111]

I've been doing a little research, talking to Moomba and Spradling(makes the vinyl) and online. Spradling told me to use dawn and water to clean the seats or an approved vinyl cleaner and then a vinyl protectant. We discussed 303 products, cleaner and protectant which are both approved by them.

I found that anything that has silicone or petroleum products are going to eat away the outer layer of the seats, including sun tan oils/sunscreens. I also found something about foot traffic being a major contributing factor to what we are seeing. On my boat the cracking is most severe in the back 3 cushions where people climb in the boat. I have some light cracking on the cushions below the board racks, where people stand to get boards. The sundeck, bow cushions captains chair, passenger's chair and all backs still look great. Not sure how minimize foot traffic into the boat, maybe remove that middle cushion and use that path. Maybe not even boat with the middle cushion anymore. And we will come up with another way to get boards in an out of the racks.

Anyone have any input on the foot traffic thing, I already don't let shoes on the boat, as everyone else does on this forum?

Link to Spradling Resources - they have approved cleaners and some other information.
https://spradlingvinyl.com/resource-library/?=#marine

[Horwitz]

I've been doing a little research, talking to Moomba and Spradling(makes the vinyl) and online. Spradling told me to use dawn and water to clean the seats or an approved vinyl cleaner and then a vinyl protectant. We discussed 303 products, cleaner and protectant which are both approved by them.

I found that anything that has silicone or petroleum products are going to eat away the outer layer of the seats, including sun tan oils/sunscreens. I also found something about foot traffic being a major contributing factor to what we are seeing. On my boat the cracking is most severe in the back 3 cushions where people climb in the boat. I have some light cracking on the cushions below the board racks, where people stand to get boards. The sundeck, bow cushions captains chair, passenger's chair and all backs still look great. Not sure how minimize foot traffic into the boat, maybe remove that middle cushion and use that path. Maybe not even boat with the middle cushion anymore. And we will come up with another way to get boards in an out of the racks.

Anyone have any input on the foot traffic thing, I already don't let shoes on the boat, as everyone else does on this forum?

Link to Spradling Resources - they have approved cleaners and some other information.
https://spradlingvinyl.com/resource-library/?=#marine

SC recommended a rubber floor mat for that purpose


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[ghebert1111]

SC recommended a rubber floor mat for that purpose


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A rubber floor mat where, on the seats when boarding or getting boards? and is anyone using a rubber floor mat?

[parrothd]

A rubber floor mat where, on the seats when boarding or getting boards? and is anyone using a rubber floor mat?

Nope, but I avoid walking on the seats.

[Horwitz]

Nope, but I avoid walking on the seats.

I just can’t get anybody ELSE to not step on the back seats. So I have my older beater set of seats for wet work, and 3 new seats for polite company.


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[parrothd]

I just can’t get anybody ELSE to not step on the back seats. So I have my older beater set of seats for wet work, and 3 new seats for polite company.


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We walk on them, just don't stand around on them. You may want to watch how you use that area. I haven't had issues with spradling, I've redone several boats with it. My used 2017 Craz was a rental boat with 500hrs and was left in the sun all season with lots of foot traffic so I know it's not the vinyl. With my crew they're usually pretty tired so we kinda roll into the boat. You may be jumping down or standing around on those seats while changing riders.

[ghebert1111]

I just can’t get anybody ELSE to not step on the back seats. So I have my older beater set of seats for wet work, and 3 new seats for polite company.


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We don't have any polite company.

[costanza]

Ditto Problem for me on a 2013 LSV. My back bench is all cracked. The boat is in the sun a few hours a week for 3 months of the year - and the rest of the time on a boat lift covered, or in storage at the dealer. I'm thinking it may be the boat cover letting water leak onto the back bench from where the tower is. It doesn't seem to seal well there... I'm thinking a full cover would be better and may help with this problem??

The seat has been getting worse the past 3 years... All other seats seem fine for now. I figured the dealer must have switched this one on us in error since it seems rotten while the others seem good.

[New Guy]

What type of hours are you guys seeing? My '14 looks great and its at 300+ hours

[Horwitz]

What type of hours are you guys seeing? My '14 looks great and its at 300+ hours

‘14, 400 hrs


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[ghebert1111]

2014 250 hrs

[costanza]

2013 - 300hrs...

[johndeeremoomba69]

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Mine is starting to do the same thing. I use the Mother’s leather protectant on it. From reading the previous posts I can believe they are looking after these issues. Cheap quality vinyl I’m guessing.

[Stazi]

Mothers does NOT have UV protectant in it. Great for cars, not so much for boats.


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[johndeeremoomba69]

Ok so what do you recommend then?

[Stazi]

Chemical Guys has a marine line of upholstery cleaner and UV protectant.
https://www.chemicalguys.com/Sale_Products_s/658.htm?utm_source=email&utm_medium=salesforce&utm_campaign=LABOR18

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[larry_arizona]

Just ordered the chemical guys marine cleaner and protectant earlier today.

Typically not a CG fan for automotive but I do like their car wash soaps.

That said I will give it a try.

Supra vinyl is supposed to be UV and stain protected already, it does clean up very easy.




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