Heartbreak of the century

[chawk610]

So, went out with bro in law yesterday to make sure his 2015 mb tomcat was ready for the season... blew oil and water all over the engine compartment...back story, he uses a heater instead of winterizing against my advice for years!!! Moral... don't trust heaters!

[rdlangston13]

Dang that sucks! At least it wasn’t your LS though


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[RC_Hinojosa]

Read the headline and thought the Mrs shut you down on that new Craz. [emoji12]

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[dakota4ce]

Man. Not worth the risk.


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[mgswake]

Is this in Texas? How many freezing temps did you guys see this winter? Sorry to hear that, really really unfortunate.

[Broke Pilot]

It snowed 3 times here in Houston this winter... wasn’t much better up in north Texas this year. This is one of he worst winters I’ve seen in a while. First one that really made me sweat worrying about the boat!

[rdlangston13]

What broke said. It appears a lot of people have suffered freeze damage around the Houston area this year. We had to repair our sprinkler system due to it freezing and busting and I live in the first suburb west of Houston. I work on drill ship in the gulf and around the first week of January we had ice on the deck.


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[chawk610]

Uuugh drained about 10 gallons of oily water out of the motor. Pulled a spark plug and they are flooded as well. Not looking good.

[Stazi]

Uuugh drained about 10 gallons of oily water out of the motor. Pulled a spark plug and they are flooded as well. Not looking good.

Engine is toast. Man...not worth the risk not winterizing.


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[dakota4ce]

What in the world does a new engine cost?


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[RC_Hinojosa]

What in the world does a new engine cost?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere is a new Raptor crate motor for sale in the classifieds here...

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[Broke Pilot]

I thought MB ran PCM motors?

[RC_Hinojosa]

I thought MB ran PCM motors?Yeah, probably. I was just mentioning the crate off the cuff.

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[dakota4ce]

Yeah, probably. I was just mentioning the crate off the cuff.

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MB started running Raptors as soon as they could. My 2013 MB was a 410 Indmar. So maybe?

[Stazi]

MB started running Raptors as soon as they could. My 2013 MB was a 410 Indmar. So maybe?

I think hat guys was selling the motor minus trans for $15k


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[rdlangston13]

It says it has the trans but he is willing to split it up if someone wants the motor without it. It has 27 hours on it.

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[Broke Pilot]

I wonder how different the block and rotating assembly are from the truck 6.2L...?
I’d bet you can get a reman’d short block for under $5k, gasket kit, and you should be good to go as long as no water jackets in the heads split.
I can’t imaginr they’d be any different...

[Stazi]

I wonder how different the block and rotating assembly are from the truck 6.2L...?
I’d bet you can get a reman’d short block for under $5k, gasket kit, and you should be good to go as long as no water jackets in the heads split.
I can’t imaginr they’d be any different...

I was at the Ford Romeo engine plant last week and asked them about these engines. They make them on Tuesdays only, so I didn’t see them going down the line. They have different ECU’s, oil pan, oil pickup, cam shaft, oil filter setup, different intake manifold, etc.


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[5:00]

Probably going to be a lot of this happening. This is the coldest winter I can remember for at least 20 years.

[crr1876]

This may be a dumb question but would boat insurance cover this?


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[sivs1]

This may be a dumb question but would boat insurance cover this?


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Think this depends on type of coverage. My policy specifically calls out freeze protection of which I know I am paying more to have. Someone living in the south would rarely need it or be concerned so doubt they would opt to pay for it.

[rdlangston13]

This may be a dumb question but would boat insurance cover this?


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No. Some insurance have an optional coverage that covers freeze damage is you had the boat professionally winterized but no one will cover freeze damage if you did not do anything to try and prevent it.


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[beat taco]

Any 6.2 donor would work and then parts can be swapped off the existing motor.

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[bergermaister]

This may be a dumb question but would boat insurance cover this?


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Negative - insurance companies will typically cite this as owner negligence. If it were improperly done by a shop that guarantees their work then the bill would be on them.

[crr1876]

Man this story makes me super nervous! I have winterized myself 3 times just draining the water from cab’s write up on here with no issues (no antifreeze). Usually in south Texas we just barely freeze a few times each winter but this year I got like 4 inches of snow and had a 4 day period of freezing temps with lows ~22. Luckily have already gone out this year and boat is running great.


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[zabooda]

The first real test is tough for all of us. Once you've gone through the worst case weather scenario without issues then you know the process works. Following the steps outlined on the forum will ensure a very high probability of success. Just draining the block and risers (4 plugs) is enough to protect the engine. The only variable is whether there is some blockage restricting the water from completely draining. If you didn't skip steps, you should be fine.

[98outback]

I had boatus with freeze coverage. Years back when it was below freezing here in north Florida for a couple days straight i think my cylinder cracked. All I know is when I took it to dealer they told insurance they thought it was freeze damage and they covered it. I did winterize it though. They covered it no problems.

[DOCDRS]

And some guys jump all over me for calling guys out when they write anything other than a proper way to winterize your motor.......it only takes 30 minutes or less to do it right.

Sorry to hear your buddies loss

[cpropes2005]

I thought the raptor motors all had closed cooling so antifreeze in the block? On mine I drain the exhaust risers, heat exchanger, water pump and v drive but I don’t drain the block because it should be antifreeze.

[Stazi]

I thought the raptor motors all had closed cooling so antifreeze in the block? On mine I drain the exhaust risers, heat exchanger, water pump and v drive but I don’t drain the block because it should be antifreeze.

You are correct, they should have no water in the block. Only place water is introduced is in the exhaust risers.


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