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BoilerUp
02-28-2018, 11:32 PM
I’ll start this by apologizing - I know an embarrassingly small amount about audio systems so sorry, but this is going to be pretty noobish I think:

I have an ‘04 LSV, this will be my second summer with it. I haven’t done anything to the audio system yet, but I’ve looked around enough to know it was not exactly... professional. So this summer I’m wanting to upgrade a little.

A little about my “boating style” and current setup so you can understand what I’m looking for. I’m not a huge stereo guy, I don’t need to be able to make out every single word from across the state. Once or twice a week I get out with a couple buddies and wakeboard for as long as the sun stays up after work. And once a weekend I go out with a bigger group and hang out in a cove and do (“try” is more accurate) some surfing. Right now, I can’t hear the music very well while I’m wakeboarding so a lot of nights I don’t even turn it on (I’d like to change that). On the weekends it’s always on, but it’s usually too busy for wakeboarding and it doesn’t need to be real loud for sitting in a cove or surfing.
Right now I’ve got the stock cabin speakers along with 4 JL tower speakers and a wetsounds EQ. No sub currently and no current plans to add one. I have a dual battery system on a perko with one battery for starting and the other driving everything else

First thing is first, the amps in there are definitely car audio, not marine, which I know isn’t a dealbreaker, but good lord they’re big and take up a lot of space. On top of that, they’re showing signs of corrosion, so I’m replacing those for sure. I also suspect that’s some of the reason I can’t hear music very well while I’m wakeboarding, either I don’t have the power to push the towers or they’re just not set up right. Any recommendations on decent options?

Next, comparing my wiring to the pictures I see, A - mines just plain ugly, and B - I don’t have ANY circuit protection except for the master breaker, seems like I see almost all systems having breakers and fuses in line with the amps. Any wiring tips?

I’m definitely budget conscious, I don’t need the biggest baddest system on the lake, but I sure would like to clean up the sound and be able to push it back to boarders from time to time. I know there’s a lot of information missing here, like what my current amps are. Unfortunately I don’t live close to the boat so I don’t have the information off hand. I would definitely prefer to be overpowered than under though, that way I have room to upgrade down the road if I want to. Hopefully that helps. If there are specific questions that you fine ladies and gentlemen need answered to help me out, let me know and I’ll take a field trip to visit my baby.

Thanks for reading this novel and thanks in advance for any help!

parrothd
03-01-2018, 12:57 AM
Don't waste your money on stereo, buy a fresh air exhaust and you'll be able to hear the stock stereo and have a better boating experience. ��

KG's Supra24
03-01-2018, 01:01 AM
What JL tower speakers? Do you know how many speaker wires are coming out the tower and to the amp?

How many in boat speakers?

BoilerUp
03-01-2018, 09:34 AM
Don't waste your money on stereo, buy a fresh air exhaust and you'll be able to hear the stock stereo and have a better boating experience. ��

That’s actually already in the plans for this year, part of the reason I’m trying to keep the price down on the new audio equipment. Good to know it makes a big difference!


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BoilerUp
03-01-2018, 09:36 AM
What JL tower speakers? Do you know how many speaker wires are coming out the tower and to the amp?

How many in boat speakers?

I’ll swing by my storage unit in the next couple days and check on the towers speakers. I have 6 in boat speakers.


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MLA
03-01-2018, 09:57 AM
Moving from the JL coaxial to an HLCD like the Wet Sounds Rev-8 or Rev-10, will be more efficient at projection music to wake range. New amps will certainly be more efficient and smaller. If you start to push up against a budget, then you need to consider reusing in one area, in order to reach goals in other areas.

BigOrange
03-01-2018, 12:32 PM
Keep a watch on the classified sections of this site plus the other wake boat forums. You'll be able to pick up some good used amps and maybe even tower speakers to match you wishes and help skinny the budget.

BoilerUp
03-01-2018, 01:14 PM
Keep a watch on the classified sections of this site plus the other wake boat forums. You'll be able to pick up some good used amps and maybe even tower speakers to match you wishes and help skinny the budget.

Thanks, that is definitely the plan. The problem is I have no idea what I’m looking for. The extent of my knowledge is “wetsounds - good”. Unfortunately it’s also more than I’m wanting to spend at this point. I have a lot of other plans that trump the wetsounds price tag for now (seadek, new prop, FAE... for starters)


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MPB
03-01-2018, 05:11 PM
Kicker makes decent equipment at a more budget friendly price. Take a look on sonicelectronix.com too. Usually have good deals on gear.

good luck!! Rock out!!

BigOrange
03-02-2018, 02:17 PM
I and many others seem to be very satisfied with Exile equipment at just a step down in pricing from Wetsounds. Many also recommend Kicker as stated above and then the economical bang for the buck seems to be the Bullet tower speakers.

KnoxMojo
03-02-2018, 03:26 PM
Can never go wrong with WetSounds, but like others on here, Exile performs well at a cost savings. Both WetSounds and Exile have deals pages for items at a discounted cost. There is also a Facebook page dedicated to wake boat gear, try to locate that as stereo equipment comes up for sale on there as well. Best of luck! Whatever you get, a proper install and tune is a must.

MLA
03-02-2018, 03:56 PM
The extent of my knowledge is “wetsounds - good”. Unfortunately it’s also more than I’m wanting to spend at this point.

Dont discount an entire brand, prior to completing the design phase. Wet Sounds offers 3 series of complete from the ground up marine amps. They offer 2 series of, again, built from the ground up marine in-boat speakers. For wake boarding you will come out better going with a HLCD over a coaxial. HLCDs come in 6.5", 8" (includes the hollow-point and knock-off krypts), and 10". Leaving out the soon to be released 9" and 11" HLCD from Kicker, until I know a firm availability date. I typically suggest an 8" or 10, given today's offerings, but for a budget friendly setup, the Kicker KMTS-67 is hard to beat. Best sounding 6.5" HLCD, handles a ton of power for its size class and well built. But again, its still a 6.5" so we have to keep it in perspective.

nathanacura
03-02-2018, 09:00 PM
I have a pair of wetsounds rev8 with the HLCD and icon8 with coaxial for sale in the classifieds section. Also have rockfords with HLCD for a bit less. All are new, still pricey, but I'm asking the same price as the refurbished ones on ebay.

The_Robo_Fighter
03-05-2018, 09:24 AM
Has anyone put these in a Roswell can?

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_128043_MB-Quart-NH1-116B.html?nosto=frontpage-nosto-1

BoilerUp
03-05-2018, 09:37 AM
I found a set of XM9’s locally. It seems to me like they’re priced a bit high, but I’m still getting over the sticker shock of this stuff. What would you expect to pay for a used set of XM9’s?


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smorris7
03-05-2018, 09:53 AM
I found a set of XM9’s locally. It seems to me like they’re priced a bit high, but I’m still getting over the sticker shock of this stuff. What would you expect to pay for a used set of XM9’s?


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Probably around 600.00 or so


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loc82
03-23-2018, 05:47 PM
OP if you're interested, i'm upgrading my whole system and have 4 roswell tower speakers 6- kicker interior 6.5's, the stock subwoofer, a fusion head unit and two amps kicker 800.5 and 200.2 available that i have no use for. I can cut you a very good deal. Let me know.

loc82
03-23-2018, 05:48 PM
Available after April 17th

JamesEvans
04-06-2018, 09:52 PM
I have the kicker HLCDs and they scream. I also got a new set from Walmart over the winter and they were discounted down to 120.

For budget amps look at PPI phantom series. They are class D so they are incredibly small and very efficient, ie don't draw crazy amounts of power.

If your located close to TN I have a JL marine 6 channel I'll let go cheap. I upgraded my Amp situation last year.

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JamesEvans
04-06-2018, 10:01 PM
Dont discount an entire brand, prior to completing the design phase. Wet Sounds offers 3 series of complete from the ground up marine amps. They offer 2 series of, again, built from the ground up marine in-boat speakers. For wake boarding you will come out better going with a HLCD over a coaxial. HLCDs come in 6.5", 8" (includes the hollow-point and knock-off krypts), and 10". Leaving out the soon to be released 9" and 11" HLCD from Kicker, until I know a firm availability date. I typically suggest an 8" or 10, given today's offerings, but for a budget friendly setup, the Kicker KMTS-67 is hard to beat. Best sounding 6.5" HLCD, handles a ton of power for its size class and well built. But again, its still a 6.5" so we have to keep it in perspective.Any info on these new HLCDs from kicker? Can't find anything on there website.

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MLA
04-06-2018, 10:25 PM
Any info on these new HLCDs from kicker? Can't find anything on there website.

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Other than price, what are you wanting know that you are not finding? I know a guy on the inside :cool:

http://www.kicker.com/kmtc-9-inch-4-ohm-coaxial-tower-system

http://www.kicker.com/kmtc-11-inch-4-ohm-coaxial-tower-system

JeffKelly81
11-08-2018, 03:51 PM
Can't go wrong with WetSounds.

I've gotten a lot of success from my Fusion MS-RA70: https://citimarinestore.com/en/68-fusion-marine-sound-systems. Have a pair of Rev 8s and 12 spl woofer from WetSounds. All I need.

philwsailz
11-12-2018, 11:25 AM
Any info on these new HLCDs from kicker? Can't find anything on there website.

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They are for sure on the website! :) Here is a link: https://www.kicker.com/kmtc-horn-loaded-tower-systems

What would you like to know?

Phil
Kicker

Digital_Aroma
11-19-2018, 06:22 AM
Thanks. That's great!!