V Drive Storage Locker Bins

[korey]

I've been rubbing on the design of a drop-in bin for V-Drive lockers that can be manufactured from flat ABS sheet by bending on a press brake. I was inspired by the new bins in the Moomba Max (and current Axis offerings), but molding - or even thermoforming - requires tooling specific to each design. My approach allows for nearly infinite configurations at no tooling and minimal design cost. I'll probably make a few prototypes next week. I'm looking for suggestions and gauging interest from the community.

The idea is to keep a common design and only modify length/width/depth/lip dimensions. Cutouts could be added easily for gas struts or latches that need to be dodged. 1/8" or 3/16 textured ABS plastic cold bent on a press brake then seams secured with plastic rivets.

[SUPRA+CUMMINS=BLISS]

I'm in....I would love to have something for my lockers and even over the engine!

[RC_Hinojosa]

I think there is a ton of interest in the community, not just for storage lockers but more specifically for an engine tray. Do an engine tray that will fit a Craz/Mojo and I'll send you a paypal....

[korey]

I have a Craz on the way, so that would be my first focus!

[BigOrange]

+1 for the Mojo over the engine tray!!

[korey]

I've got some more thinking to do about the over the engine tray. I need to get details on my material choice with respect to the heat and larger span in that compartment. Also, the corners are not fully closed so I want to consider where water ends up when wet stuff ends up in there.

[Shoebox]

I'd be interested in side locker trays for a Mondo.

[zabooda]

I've used 3/16 textured ABS and made a box similar to yours (not for the same purpose). I didn't have the press so I made a shallow cut along the lines, heated the cut and bent the side up. Then I plastic welded the corner. Holds up well and it can take the heat. I started to use the ABS for a simple Jeep project but the plastic seller would only sell me a 4x8 sheet and it prompted me to use it elsewhere. Good stuff and strong.

[korey]

Good to hear! I've test bent some 1/4" that we had around and it ripped a little with the bend radiuses that I wanted. but I think the thinner material will be fine - I'll have a sample soon. These things are going to eat up some material - the example box that I have shown is 30" x 18" x 12" deep with a 2" flange and takes most of a 4'x8' sheet (enough such that you couldn't get a second part out of the drop) that are price just under $100/sheet. I may be able to get larger sheets to fit more than one part per sheet and make less scrap.

[rdlangston13]

The ABS should be able to hold up to the head of the engine bay, these engines run about 30 degrees cooler than normal automotive engines and the exhaust is cooled as well by water. I also thing the trays used in the Max are ABS. My only concern is with the perpendicular flange sides not being connected it would be sacrificing strength. I just sent RickT a message asking if they plan on coming out with anything to satisfy the growing demand for these among Mondo, Mojo, and Craz owners.

[Dtbradly]

Whoa Whoa Whoa don't forget about your Helix Brethren!


The ABS should be able to hold up to the head of the engine bay, these engines run about 30 degrees cooler than normal automotive engines and the exhaust is cooled as well by water. I also thing the trays used in the Max are ABS. My only concern is with the perpendicular flange sides not being connected it would be sacrificing strength. I just sent RickT a message asking if they plan on coming out with anything to satisfy the growing demand for these among Mondo, Mojo, and Craz owners.

[BigOrange]

If water draining is a concern I think the users could seal up the small corner hole with some silicone or something similar. Plus, unless someone wants to absolutely throw something in there dripping wet (I wouldn't) I think the dampness would get driven out with the engine heat. Also, little drips shouldn't hurt anything if you know its not right over the electrical interfaces to the engine.

[korey]

if you know its not right over the electrical interfaces to the engine.

This, exactly. I just wanted to have a hard look and make sure my design wouldn't drain RIGHT ON something important!

I'll be digging into this later next week when i have some downtime. I actually just left Lenoir City - where I've been shanghai'd all week for work. I should have dropped by SC in Marysville, but there wasn't really any downtime this week.

[Shoebox]

I measured the side compartments on my Mondo yesterday, and they're narrower toward the rear by an inch or so. 16.5" at the rear if I recall correctly. So a rectangular box would have to be about that wide but have extra wide flanges that could be trimmed to fit front to rear.

[rdlangston13]

Whoa Whoa Whoa don't forget about your Helix Brethren!

That tray for the Max should fit the Helix.


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[KnoxMojo]

I am in for all 3. In my Axis boats, there were drains in the back corners for water to escape to the bilge. On these newer engines without distributor caps on top, a bit of water shouldn't hurt anything.

[The_Robo_Fighter]

I’d be in for all on all 3! For a “Old” LSV!

[996scott]

i made a storage bin to go in the engine compartment for my 07lsv. There wasn't a lot of room but i am able to throw 3 or 4 ski ropes and deflated Exile bumper balls in there. It is nice to have a little extra storage.

[Willyourun]

That tray for the Max should fit the Helix.


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Does anyone have confirmation that this is true?


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[Willyourun]

Was just told by my dealer that the Max’s engine storage tray and the locker storage trays won’t fit on a Helix.


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[stevemarich]

Got the craz tray done , just need a test fit then coat it. 5" deep https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/6eaaac8c71d42c7d56752a4e4e1dd6be.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/76dfd10629f5fa25d99e82d8cab27954.jpg

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[Shoebox]

Looks great man!

Did you think about drilling a small hole at the back end of that channel so it can act like a drain?

[RC_Hinojosa]

Got the craz tray done , just need a test fit then coat it. 5" deep https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/6eaaac8c71d42c7d56752a4e4e1dd6be.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/76dfd10629f5fa25d99e82d8cab27954.jpg

Sent from my XT1254 using TapatalkYou going into production? Or just a one-off?

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[stevemarich]

You going into production? Or just a one-off?

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Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using TapatalkProbably just a one off , but you never know. Was 50$ in material and about 2 hrs time. Unfortunately , time for me lately is damn near priceless.

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[rdlangston13]

Probably just a one off , but you never know. Was 50$ in material and about 2 hrs time. Unfortunately , time for me lately is damn near priceless.

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$50 in material? What did you make it from??


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[rdlangston13]

Was just told by my dealer that the Max’s engine storage tray and the locker storage trays won’t fit on a Helix.


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Based on what goose said about the draft sensor location along the different models of boats I am assuming it won’t fit due to the depth of the Max being more than the Helix. I thought they were the same depth.


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[stevemarich]

.063 aluminum 5052 , wanted it easy to handle. It came out pretty stiff considering material thickness. Was going to do .1 or .125 , but for ropes and jackets didn't see the need

[rdlangston13]

.063 aluminum 5052 , wanted it easy to handle. It came out pretty stiff considering material thickness. Was going to do .1 or .125 , but for ropes and jackets didn't see the need

Ok thanks. That’s the thickness I was thinking about going with as well


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[stevemarich]

Ok thanks. That’s the thickness I was thinking about going with as well


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI would think using .1 you wouldn't need too put the bend in the middle for rigidity, if you didn't load it up. I believe .125 I was quoted around 80$ for materials

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[BrettLee3232]

Looks great!!! What are you going to coat with?


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[stevemarich]

Thanks, going to go with bed liner on this one.

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[MJHSupra]

Nice upgrade.


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[stevemarich]

Thanks, will post a few more pics when it's installed for a better reference on size.

[rpspa]

26688
Max trays for reference.

[DFTR Josh]

26688
Max trays for reference.
Them MAX trays are so damn nice but a PITA to take out.

[Boonejeepin]

I am thinking about ordering one side storage tray so I can still use the other side for board storage.


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[stevemarich]

The test fit went good , now just need to finish changing the strut ends from ball stud to pit pins https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180219/a8f2ffad663fd802708a85b742b74e52.jpg

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[steinkda1984]

The test fit went good , now just need to finish changing the strut ends from ball stud to pit pins https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180219/a8f2ffad663fd802708a85b742b74e52.jpg

Sent from my XT1254 using TapatalkLooks awesome. I need one, such a good place to store jackets and ropes! I will be visiting a local fab shop soon.

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[stevemarich]

Looks awesome. I need one, such a good place to store jackets and ropes! I will be visiting a local fab shop soon.

Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkThanks, should work good, plan on putting the bumpers , box anchor , ropes , and maybe a jacket or two or wet suits. May make more , haven't decided yet.

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[steinkda1984]

Local sheet metal fab shop quoted me $180. Seem like a far deal? I will have to bed liner it myself.

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[stevemarich]

Local sheet metal fab shop quoted me $180. Seem like a far deal? I will have to bed liner it myself.

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That doesn't sound to bad at all , will definitely be worth it.

[Humbucker427]

Very nice! Impressive work.

[RC_Hinojosa]

May make more , haven't decided yet.

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Let me know if you do...I'll place a deposit :)

[stevemarich]

Got the quick release pin conversion done, super easy to remove struts then tray , box anchor and bumpers with lots of room to spare , super stoked. And got the swivels on racks , was a good day for modshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/1d2f3327388f975cadf3d4b8a2b3d1c5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/c8dcf5889e9ce977398416049fcdfadd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/7ec8489b84a02f45e322f21af8f9cf8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/2b4124be1ec2ea45f4cfe28cae38f743.jpg

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[rdlangston13]

Got the quick release pin conversion done, super easy to remove struts then tray , box anchor and bumpers with lots of room to spare , super stoked. And got the swivels on racks , was a good day for modshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/1d2f3327388f975cadf3d4b8a2b3d1c5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/c8dcf5889e9ce977398416049fcdfadd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/7ec8489b84a02f45e322f21af8f9cf8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/2b4124be1ec2ea45f4cfe28cae38f743.jpg

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What did you use to convert the struts to the pins to make them easier to remove? And that thing came out great!


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[RC_Hinojosa]

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This came out killer, great job!! You could be printing money with these....jus saying ;)

[stevemarich]

What did you use to convert the struts to the pins to make them easier to remove? And that thing came out great!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI unscrewed the plastic end off the strut and went to the hardware store and got a rod end to screw on instead , the factory struts had metric threads so I did swap those with a set of struts from Napa then machined a mount for the quick release pin to go in , utilizing factory holes and hardwarehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180312/6a889a9b6bec21e60191697296e1b97c.jpg

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[stevemarich]

This came out killer, great job!! You could be printing money with these....jus saying ;)Thanks man , I just need someone to help run the printer for me [emoji41]

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[rdlangston13]

It looks like There is still a ton of space available in the tray too.


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[stevemarich]

There is for sure , that stuff only took up barely over half the space.

[The General]

+1 for the Mojo over the engine tray!!
+2 if shipping to Canada is cool :-)

[jcarter20]

No joke, I have been trying to find one of the Malibu or Axis trays that would fit my 2018 Craz with no luck. I didn't think about checking with a local fab shop because I was hoping to get it made from plastic. Have you been out on the water all day yet with it? I am curious if the tray gets hot at all. SC definitely needs to add this upgrade. Good work!

[stevemarich]

Got out for one day and the tray was well worth the time. It didnt get hot by any means.

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[BigOrange]

"Cool" feedback.....anyone else move forward with a fab / design? My buddy drew one up after he and I took tape to my Mojo but I don't think he has ever heard back from his fab shop because their workload on large orders.

[korey]

This is coming back to the top of my list after putting bigger bags int he boat and loosing ALL storage, LOL. June will be the month!

[jimmsch]

The test fit went good , now just need to finish changing the strut ends from ball stud to pit pins

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How do you do this? Do you have pictures? I need to know because the dealer broke the ball joint when winterizing and one strut just hangs there. The little clip that snaps in to hold the ball joint together doesn't hold. Of course the dealer will take no responsibility.