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Brad141
11-04-2017, 11:00 PM
Hi all
Just bought a 2010 lsv and wondering what speeds and setups ppl are running as I am new to it.
Boat has gravity 3 ballest and wake wedge
Any help would be great

Thanks

Stazi
11-05-2017, 08:28 AM
My buddy has the exact same boat. For surfing: 1100's in each rear locker full, ski locker bag full, under-seat bow bag full, 400# bag across back seat and another 400# on the surf side (which you switch when you surf the other side), and a surf gate on the non-surf side as far back as you can go. Speed 10.9-11.2mph, wakeplate all the way up.
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Leebo
11-06-2017, 07:16 PM
1. Congrats!!!
2. What Stazi said!
3. Less important for some, but an FAE and a surf platform can/will help with surfing.

Some question the need for the surf platform but for me it helped. The FAE may be less important for the surfer but more important for those on the back deck. At the very least, it makes the boat quieter.

Tylerrnemt
11-06-2017, 08:16 PM
Congrats on the new boat! Tweaking your wave becomes an addiction!! I bought my 2012 LSV July 4th weekend this summer and it took all summer playing around with different set ups before I became happy with it.

You will need to buy more bags. Factory GIII will not be enough. I also highly recommend some type of surf gate. Either DIY or buy one from the many manufacturers...they truly work wonders.

I started running only factory 400 on surf side and factory 400 center locker full plus 3-4 people on surf side. Was a decent wave for so little weight but we could never go ropeless. PO had installed the manual flow but I didn't really think it made much difference. We then added an extra 400 lb bag filled with a over the side tsunami pump on top of the factory 400 on surf side. This required filling the factory 400 sac 1/2 full on the non surf side to clean up the wave. Made a big difference but only small riders like my wife could go ropeless still. I then made my own DIY suckgate and ran this on the opposite side as far back as possible. This made the huge difference I needed to get everyone going ropeless!

I just bought an 1100lb sac and factory fittings to replace the surf side factory sac. This way I won't have to mess with the over the side tsunami pump and will work with just a flip of the switch to get to the same or more weight.

The wave isn't as long as I want due to not much weight up front .... but most of the lakes I'm on are waaaaay to busy and any extra weight up front will risk frequent rollers over the bow so I live with it. I have a couple extra sacs I can fill and throw up front on the rare occasion I get smooth water.

So my ultimate setup is:
Surf side 800-1100lbs
Nonsurf side 200lbs
Center locker 400lbs
Suckgate nonsurf side
Wake plate ranges between 1/2 and full to smooth things up
Speed 10.0-10.2

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Stazi
11-07-2017, 09:55 AM
Congrats on the new boat! Tweaking your wave becomes an addiction!! I bought my 2012 LSV July 4th weekend this summer and it took all summer playing around with different set ups before I became happy with it.

You will need to buy more bags. Factory GIII will not be enough. I also highly recommend some type of surf gate. Either DIY or buy one from the many manufacturers...they truly work wonders.

I started running only factory 400 on surf side and factory 400 center locker full plus 3-4 people on surf side. Was a decent wave for so little weight but we could never go ropeless. PO had installed the manual flow but I didn't really think it made much difference. We then added an extra 400 lb bag filled with a over the side tsunami pump on top of the factory 400 on surf side. This required filling the factory 400 sac 1/2 full on the non surf side to clean up the wave. Made a big difference but only small riders like my wife could go ropeless still. I then made my own DIY suckgate and ran this on the opposite side as far back as possible. This made the huge difference I needed to get everyone going ropeless!

I just bought an 1100lb sac and factory fittings to replace the surf side factory sac. This way I won't have to mess with the over the side tsunami pump and will work with just a flip of the switch to get to the same or more weight.

The wave isn't as long as I want due to not much weight up front .... but most of the lakes I'm on are waaaaay to busy and any extra weight up front will risk frequent rollers over the bow so I live with it. I have a couple extra sacs I can fill and throw up front on the rare occasion I get smooth water.

So my ultimate setup is:
Surf side 800-1100lbs
Nonsurf side 200lbs
Center locker 400lbs
Suckgate nonsurf side
Wake plate ranges between 1/2 and full to smooth things up
Speed 10.0-10.2

https://vgy.me/kX5Y1N.jpg

https://vgy.me/no0WJL.png

https://vgy.me/CVb4ks.png

https://vgy.me/nMJaLI.jpg


https://youtu.be/bvFc3-md4JM

Trust me in this ADD MORE WEIGHT TO THE NON SURFSIDE TOO! Get 1100's for both rear locker and fill them both and get a bow sack as well as the ski locker sack. Fill everything [emoji817] %. Then put one of you 400's on the surf side at least if not another one on the back seat and attach the surf gate.

Your set up right now is nowhere near dialed. Forget running less weight in the non surfside locker; you're just cheating yourself. The key to all boats is load them down as much as possible and fill everything up and then add an offset bag to give you a little list to you surfside.

I have farted around for 2 years now on LSV's, XLV's and my Craz and I can tell you I know what I am ranting about. That 200lb in the non surfside locker you are using is pointless.

Weight, weight, weight! And even with a bow sack you will still ride nose high, so don't worry about the rollers, we have to deal with those too. Worse rollers you have to worry are you own, and the biggest mistake most people make is to chop the throttle and immediately turn back towards the rider on the surfside, the moment they fall. This will make you eat rollers!

My tip: when the fall, you ease back the throttle, wait about 10secs and THEN turn AWAY from the rider to turn around. This is usually the way the boat with a surfgate wants to turn anyway as that gate is acting like a huge rudder, pulling the boat in that direction anyway. This puts the nose on the side that wasn't creating the surf wake and there is less chance to eat a roller.

I think next year I will make a video show by how we set up my buddy's LSV and show you the proof of the wave it makes. I will go so far as to say it's better than I get out of my Craz, because the Craz has a huge hull and needs tons of weight to match the same water displacement in the LSV.


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BT_48170
11-07-2017, 02:21 PM
Agree on 1100's on both sides. I still leave one less full to get a little list but agreed the wave is probably better if you instead add a bag or use your passengers body weight. Here is what I'm running:

Surf side 1100lbs
Nonsurf side 800-900 lbs
Center locker 400lbs +
540 lb sumo bag on the floor on top of the ctr ski locker
Suckgate nonsurf side about 8-10 inches forward of the rear corner
Wake plate about 1/2 way
Speed 10.5-11 mph

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Tylerrnemt
11-07-2017, 08:15 PM
Trust me in this ADD MORE WEIGHT TO THE NON SURFSIDE TOO! Get 1100's for both rear locker and fill them both and get a bow sack as well as the ski locker sack. Fill everything [emoji817] %. Then put one of you 400's on the surf side at least if not another one on the back seat and attach the surf gate.

Your set up right now is nowhere near dialed. Forget running less weight in the non surfside locker; you're just cheating yourself. The key to all boats is load them down as much as possible and fill everything up and then add an offset bag to give you a little list to you surfside.

I have farted around for 2 years now on LSV's, XLV's and my Craz and I can tell you I know what I am ranting about. That 200lb in the non surfside locker you are using is pointless.

Weight, weight, weight! And even with a bow sack you will still ride nose high, so don't worry about the rollers, we have to deal with those too. Worse rollers you have to worry are you own, and the biggest mistake most people make is to chop the throttle and immediately turn back towards the rider on the surfside, the moment they fall. This will make you eat rollers!

My tip: when the fall, you ease back the throttle, wait about 10secs and THEN turn AWAY from the rider to turn around. This is usually the way the boat with a surfgate wants to turn anyway as that gate is acting like a huge rudder, pulling the boat in that direction anyway. This puts the nose on the side that wasn't creating the surf wake and there is less chance to eat a roller.

I think next year I will make a video show by how we set up my buddy's LSV and show you the proof of the wave it makes. I will go so far as to say it's better than I get out of my Craz, because the Craz has a huge hull and needs tons of weight to match the same water displacement in the LSV.


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I think I found a pic of your buddy's LSV!

https://vgy.me/o1KeUA.jpg

Just playing ; )

All joking aside, I'm sure that much weight makes the surf wave unbelievable! I'm not comfortable nearly tripling the weight capacity of the boat though with my kids on board just to make the wave "better" than what I have now. Not that I'm a "by the book" kinda guy but that is a ton of weight (no pun intended) for a little 21ft VDrive.

Stazi
11-07-2017, 08:24 PM
Not even close to sinking it. You asked how to make it better and I told you. Look at the pics I posted and see for yourself.


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Tylerrnemt
11-07-2017, 09:47 PM
Not even close to sinking it. You asked how to make it better and I told you. Look at the pics I posted and see for yourself.


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Nope... didn't ask.

Just trying to get as much info as possible to the OP who did ask. Again as I said no doubt your buddy's wave is a ton better than mine with that kind of weight. To the OP just make sure you understand what your getting into before loading the boat with nearly 4,000 lbs of lake water + a full tank of gas + all your buddies and their gear then sticking them on a short rope directly behind your boat.

There is no doubt more weight = better surf wave. That's why we all buy our own boats right? So we can set them up how we want.

BT_48170
11-08-2017, 06:58 AM
For the OP as an FYI... With what I run (around 3000lb of ballast) plus 3-4 people on board I've never felt unsafe driving the boat and do not have an issue swamping waves over the front if you do what Stazi stated and weight a few seconds before turning back towards the rider to let the waves pass. If you have more people in the boat and you feel it is too much you can always dial the ballast back a bit but it is nice when you only have a few people and can still get an awesome wave.

Leebo
11-08-2017, 11:22 AM
Agree w/ Stazi and BT.

Swamp-risk has more to do with the driver than the ballast you are running. You have to know how to drive around any surf wave you've created and never drive into it. I watched my brother take a roller over the bow w/ 2k of ballast and 2 passengers b/c he did exactly that. I'm running over 3k now and he now knows what to do.

BTW, we haven't mentioned prop selection. An ACME 1433 works well below 3k and above that I needed to switch to the 2315 (but measure both your hull and trailer clearances b/c it's a 15" prop - I shimmed my trailer.)