Battery/Amp compartment pics?

[SoutharkLSV]

Hey guys getting ready to redo my battery and amp locations and was hoping you Could post some pics to give me some ideas on what to do?

[JamesEvans]

Hey guys getting ready to redo my battery and amp locations and was hoping you Could post some pics to give me some ideas on what to do?This is what it is now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/692ecaddfd66bbb18ace189962477bc2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/338bd0720bc8284c5c21bf7f09725d4c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/a2aa597b130a18794173a71900fc935d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/118f4c4e616b304e6eebe3490964044a.jpg

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[JamesEvans]

This is what it was before, like this when I got it. Garbage. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/f57c6383b2ddd4de3bb064907c3c38f6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/296133aec6774e0d4241824e3f59de10.jpg

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[That Guy]

Here’s mine...https://flic.kr/p/TtNsNo

[996scott]

there are a lot of guys who know stereo systems/set ups a lot better than me but i would not want any of my amps or stereo equipment on the floor of the boat. Everything i have seen is always mounted on the side just in case you take water over the bow and get water in the boat.

[kaneboats]

Yes, go vertical young man!

[JamesEvans]

They are not on the floor, they are suspended on a board! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/fc0691285854bcbc50e18e4539b8c827.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/89f1c7b1bac4c015d8d390ac34dae573.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/39fe1786a21c7fe4ee43c1613b2060ba.jpg

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[996scott]

oh, didn't notice they were above the floor. That is definitely better than on the floor. What I have seen is most put them on the side of the boat and then that also frees up more space on the floor for storage.

[mcdye]

I don't pic of my 02 lsv, used a cutting board and mounted using the bow back bolts, only had 1 amp. HTMS.

This was my '10 LSV, setup. Made a riser so I could shove the batteries further forward for more room.

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[sandm]

last amp rack in the last boat. stereo battery is in a box against the wall in the corner of the pic. other 2 batteries are in a compartment in the rear of the boat in the factory location.
I am with the others in that I would not ever mount amps flat even above the floor. too much temptation to toss a wet towel or lifejacket in there. would also recommend that batteries are put in battery boxes. keeps something metal from arcing across the terminals and cleans up the storage space.
all just my .02...

[Broke Pilot]

The wall of the walkway is actually incredibly thick on these boats. I was able to screw my amps directly to it on my '06 24SSV using short screws and 1/4" spacers to keep them from digging into the carpet.
Sorry I don't have any better pics on my phone anymore.
http://i.imgur.com/aA9xvue.jpg

[mattsask]

Here's the amp rack in my 16https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171108/d5051f988fb9817d97c330af03dad338.jpg

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[trayson]

The amp rack. Future plans are to use a sheet of expanded core plastic on stainless steel standoffs to cover the wiring.
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160524_180915_zpsisfl67om.jpg

It's definitely not the nicest around here. Wait for pics from KG or Dusty for that.

[mattsask]

The amp rack. Future plans are to use a sheet of expanded core plastic on stainless steel standoffs to cover the wiring.
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160524_180915_zpsisfl67om.jpg

It's definitely not the nicest around here. Wait for pics from KG or Dusty for that.Man, those ppi amps are compact. I've been thinking about making the switch to ppi. Which amps are those, Trayson?

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[JamesEvans]

Man, those ppi amps are compact. I've been thinking about making the switch to ppi. Which amps are those, Trayson?

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using TapatalkI can answer... Phantom series. And they are phenomenal. Had them in my last boat. Excellent price/value

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[wolfeman131]

The amp rack. Future plans are to use a sheet of expanded core plastic on stainless steel standoffs to cover the wiring.
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160524_180915_zpsisfl67om.jpg

It's definitely not the nicest around here. Wait for pics from KG or Dusty for that.

you could clean that all up real nice with a roll, or 3, of blue sparkle tape

[trayson]

Man, those ppi amps are compact. I've been thinking about making the switch to ppi. Which amps are those, Trayson?

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Yes, Phantom.


P1000.1 to the subs at 2 ohms (750 watts)
P900.4 to the eight 6.5 in boats (225w x 4 @ 2ohms)
And I have a pair of the P600.2 which are each bridged to a Wet Sounds Rev410 pod at 4 ohms. Each Rev410 is getting 600watts RMS (bridged)




you could clean that all up real nice with a roll, or 3, of blue sparkle tape

YESSSS!!!!!! All the sparkles!

(if/when I get around to doing the faceplate over the amp rack, it'll have LED backlighting. Guess what color?!?!)

[trayson]

Here's the amp rack in my 16https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171108/d5051f988fb9817d97c330af03dad338.jpg

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Clean. Nice job.

[jmvotto]

should not need the power caps in a two battery audio install.

to the op put the amps on the side wall .

[trayson]

should not need the power caps in a two battery audio install.

to the op put the amps on the side wall .

Yeah. I'm likely going to take them out whenever I next make a change.

[Broke Pilot]

The PPI amps are legit... that 1000.1 is a mean sub amp. I've got mine at 1 ohm powering 2 W6's, and it gets down. I for a while ran a PPI on the Rev410, but couldn't get it adjusted well.

[mattsask]

The PPI amps are legit... that 1000.1 is a mean sub amp. I've got mine at 1 ohm powering 2 W6's, and it gets down. I for a while ran a PPI on the Rev410, but couldn't get it adjusted well.Damn. I've got my 12w6 running off that one kicker amp and it's getting around 700 rms at 2 ohms. Was thinking about adding another w6 but wasn't sure how I'd power it. That 1000.1 seems like a legit solution.

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[trayson]

The PPI amps are legit... that 1000.1 is a mean sub amp. I've got mine at 1 ohm powering 2 W6's, and it gets down. I for a while ran a PPI on the Rev410, but couldn't get it adjusted well.

what did you find yourself lacking with the REV410 on the 600.2? I'm feeling okay with mine. Did you have a WS420SQ to adjust the levels and EQ of the tower zone?

[Broke Pilot]

To be honest I think it was more of a problem with the head unit I installed in the boat, no matter what I did with the crossovers on the amp with the head unit set to flat curves it just never sounded right. Always had too much low end and it would clip before it really got loud.
Once I added another 410 on that massive SD4, holy s***... it was amazing.

I'd never hesitate to use those PPI amps again. Can't beat them for the $$ and fast shipping on amazon!

If anyone needs a 600.2, I have one I'll sell.

[Broke Pilot]

Damn. I've got my 12w6 running off that one kicker amp and it's getting around 700 rms at 2 ohms. Was thinking about adding another w6 but wasn't sure how I'd power it. That 1000.1 seems like a legit solution.

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Do it! You'll love it. Are your W6's 10's or 12's? I have 2 10s in a ported box and love it. Can't wait to get it installed in the new SA. I need to make another thread on here and see how everyone has done their SA. I'm having a hard time coming up with good ideas.

[muehlcj]

[QUOTE=trayson;318377]The amp rack. Future plans are to use a sheet of expanded core plastic on stainless steel standoffs to cover the wiring.
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160524_180915_zpsisfl67om.jpg

That's what it looks like when you let a CPA do what a engineer should be doing....;)

[MLA]

To be honest I think it was more of a problem with the head unit I installed in the boat, no matter what I did with the crossovers on the amp with the head unit set to flat curves it just never sounded right. Always had too much low end and it would clip before it really got loud.
Once I added another 410 on that massive SD4, holy s***... it was amazing.

I'd never hesitate to use those PPI amps again. Can't beat them for the $$ and fast shipping on amazon!

If anyone needs a 600.2, I have one I'll sell.

Issue was the amp. Its not designed to properly run bridged to a full range mono speaker pod.

[jbird]

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2017 Mojo
Javelin is powering 12" Exile sub and (6) 6.5's, WS is powering a pair of Rev10's.

[Broke Pilot]

Issue was the amp. Its not designed to properly run bridged to a full range mono speaker pod.

How so? What makes the PPI amp any different than another bridged 2 channel?

[MLA]

How so? What makes the PPI amp any different than another bridged 2 channel?

Nothing different then about 99% of 2 chnl amps. Its the 1% thats different.

[trayson]

How so? What makes the PPI amp any different than another bridged 2 channel?

I think he's talking about regular amps vs the few that can sum mono...

It was talked about a little in another thread. I sort of understand it, lol.


An amp like the JL 750/1 is truly a mono amp, so question there. An like the Wet Sounds SD-2 and Syn-2/Syn-DX2 are, are their core, 2 chnl stereo amp, same as the Arc KS600.2 and KS300.2. But even then, I still run them in mono for a tower setup. The Syn-4/DX4, SD-4 and SD-6 can be setup to run a pair of tower speakers in stereo, but again, I prefer to run them mono. Not many The SD-6 will also allow for bridged mono or stereo. Not many amps out there that will let you do with a pair of tower setups like these high end amp. Theres WAY more to it than just wattage.

At best, an amp like the PPi900.4, polk 4000.4, exile xm15.4 and xm30.2, Wet Sounds HT4, kicker KXM400.4 and KXM400.2 will let you run stereo, and thats if you bridge and configure the RCAs properly on the 4 chnls.

Theres nothing wrong with stereo on a tower setup, but as been noted, when off axis, like surfing, you are getting most of your music from that one speaker thats closest to you. In a stereo setup, you are missing some content. Mono lets you get it all. A high end that runs mono properly, can make a tower setup just that much better sounding.

And actually he explained it to me even better in a PM. I followed his advice and used RCAs slitters to feed the signal to my amps.


. Quote Originally Posted by MLA
Heres the issue with a stereo amp like the ppi and a speaker setup like the rev-410. The rev-410 is a full range mono pod and needs a summed-mono signal. This is where the amp combines the left and right signal on the input side, and sends a mono signal to the pod. A simple 2 chnl stereo like the PPi and most others, cant sum the signal. This means the left and right chnls are meeting at the voice coils. This doesnt sound good at all.

This is ok on a sub-woofer as we arnt going to hear this clash of chnls at woofers voice coil, we you can with a full-range speaker. This is where a higher end amp like the wet sound Syn and SD series are so valuable, also amps like the Arc KS series. They allow for that full-range summed mono signal

Now, there is one way to configure the RCAs with your dual amp setup that will be decent, but still not as clean as something like the Syn-4/Syn-DX-4, SD-4, Arc KS-300.4 or JL MHD750/1. Split the RCA and plug both rights into the left and right of one 600.2 and take the left two and plug them into the left and right of the 2nd 600.2.

This allows the amp to make full power since both chnls are fed, but each pod is receiving either a left or a right, rather than each pod receiving a left and a right that mix at the voice coil.

[smorris7]

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2017 Mojo
Javelin is powering 12" Exile sub and (6) 6.5's, WS is powering a pair of Rev10's.

Blasphemy![emoji23]


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[RC_Hinojosa]

[QUOTE=trayson;318377]
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160524_180915_zpsisfl67om.jpg

That's what it looks like when you let a CPA do what a engineer should be doing....;)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[mattsask]

Question. Could I use the 900.4 bridged at 2ohms 225x2 to run two sets of tower speakers? I've got a set of 7.7 krypts already and have a second set of matching 6.5 pods off the old boat. Can I run two different size speakers off this amp

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[MLA]

Question. Could I use the 900.4 bridged at 2ohms 225x2 to run two sets of tower speakers?

No, you cannot run a bridged 2 ohm load on this amp. However, you can run a pair in series bridged 8 ohm, but the wattage to each is the same as 4 chnl 4 ohm stereo. So no wattage advantage, only a simpler wiring advantage in some cases.


Can I run two different size speakers off this amp

Sure! one size and one half of the amp, other size on the 2nd half of the amp.

[New Guy]

A few pictures from my build. The bottom of the rack now has a fascia on it.
https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?24337-Not-so-Humble-Stereo-V3-0

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[rdlangston13]

I don’t have a picture of ours on my phone, I’ll have to snag one next time I’m around the boat and throw it up here


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[SoutharkLSV]

It's nothing special but I added a sub amp to the already installed wet sounds and kicker amp that came with the boat. I moved the batteries around to free up some room, added some led lights for night time operations, changed out head units so I could add XM and one that had a sub channel. I fiberglassed a box to fit on top of the foot board under the drivers console. I'm a big boy so leg room is very important. It's not pretty but you can't see it anyway. In the end I was very happy with the sound improvement and added base.
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[Broke Pilot]

Nicely done! Love the blue!

[SoutharkLSV]

Here's the view of the sub. Hard to tell it's even there. Was a very tight fit.26572

[SoutharkLSV]

Kinda got the blue thing going on 26573

[Broke Pilot]

I bet... I had a hard time fitting my box between that seat base and the edge of the footwell. Glad you got it in.

[SoutharkLSV]

I had to remove the seat and loosen up the steering column to get it in.

[Broke Pilot]

I only had to Remove the seat.

[j.mo]

Anyone relocated their batteries out of the observer compartment?
If so which area are you moving them to?
I’d like to free up that space, and I’ll be adding 2 more batteries


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[sandm]

granted different boats but all 3 of our tige's have them located in the rear storage behind the ballast bags. there's a hdpe panel that divides the rear compartment wtih the transom and they are stuffed back there. it's a REAL pita to get to them and remove them.
on our first tige we added a second deep cycle and put it up front in the observers spot to run the amps. simple 1/0 gauge from oem deep cycle to front deep cycle- pos to pos/neg to neg. then wired the stereo distribution blocks off that battery.

unless you are looking for days of play time, we had 3 large arc amps(ks 300x2/600x2/1200x1) running off both deep cycles and did run 6 or 7 hrs at the sandbar with no issues at all. onboard charger was the best mod on all my boats.

[j.mo]

granted different boats but all 3 of our tige's have them located in the rear storage behind the ballast bags. there's a hdpe panel that divides the rear compartment wtih the transom and they are stuffed back there. it's a REAL pita to get to them and remove them.
on our first tige we added a second deep cycle and put it up front in the observers spot to run the amps. simple 1/0 gauge from oem deep cycle to front deep cycle- pos to pos/neg to neg. then wired the stereo distribution blocks off that battery.

unless you are looking for days of play time, we had 3 large arc amps(ks 300x2/600x2/1200x1) running off both deep cycles and did run 6 or 7 hrs at the sandbar with no issues at all. onboard charger was the best mod on all my boats.

I am looking to add 2 L16 6v just to be sure I can run the stereo with the Boat off for a few hours without worry.
I am going to try and keep this stereo pretty tame. I’m thinking a ks300.4, ks300.2 and a SQ2200 for the bass amp.
My old boat had 4 of the L16, isolated from the 2 12v for the engine, And were plugged into a charger. But that was overkill even for that stereo and that was twice what I am wanting in this boat.
Only problem is they are so tall they can only go in the back compartments, taking up room for my ballast bags. However I suppose they will supplement their space in weight at 125lb each


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[sandm]

an ambitious project to say the least.
good luck and post up pics as you do it.