Build me a MAX

[DFTR Josh]

Thanks to www.marine-products.com it looks like I'm starting next season in a MAX and with the option to build one. Now I'm a huge fan of a LOT of white and mild colors. Now this will be up for sale so I'm asking to see what others can come up with for a build. The sky is the limit but ask to share only what you would build. Seeing other options I might break from the traditional lots of white and little color. Help a brother out...

MAX build page... (https://www.moomba.com/configurator/19?angle=left_profile&selectedOptions=4835%2C3778%2C3780%2C3172%2C3199%2 C3201%2C3211%2C3213%2C3737%2C3744%2C3755%2C3767%2C 3800%2C3802%2C3769&sprayPattern=15)

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[mattsask]

I don't know if I'd go white with a MAX. The lines just don't work with white in my opinion. It's a big boat and I think it has kind of a cheap look with too much white and those lines. Just my two cents.

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[NoleAlum]

Personally like the 2nd one the best. Looking into a Max myself but dealer lost their product specialist so starting the conversation is on hold for the moment...

[Getssum96]

I'd probably go with option 2 or 3 but not do solid black, rather shift it to a metalflake for the extra bling factor.

[DFTR Josh]

Right now I’m looking at white and dark graphite, not black. I really like the dark grey on boats but I also have to think resale. I’m open for options and this is why I want to see what others can build using colors.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[That Guy]

I prefer the “Sport” color scheme for more of the color across the entire length of the boat.

https://flic.kr/p/ZE2qLy

My .02

[DFTR Josh]

I prefer the “Sport” color scheme for more of the color across the entire length of the boat.
That's a good looking boat and I hear ya on the sport scheme to show long lines of such a large boat. Talking with different people about boats a lot are afraid of blacks and colored hull's, just don't think they're educated on how easy it is to keep clean and scuff free. Now is a regular color going to appeal more then a flake, who knows...

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[trayson]

That's a good looking boat and I hear ya on the sport scheme to show long lines of such a large boat. Talking with different people about boats a lot are afraid of blacks and colored hull's, just don't think they're educated on how easy it is to keep clean and scuff free. Now is a regular color going to appeal more then a flake, who knows...



The blue flake looks so much better. I'd definitely rock that blue metalflake one. Most people are cool with blue. I adore it. Red is a risk. Love/hate.

This was the build I would do:
https://i.imgur.com/vOZqZyA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WLw2JKb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9EmKORS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ds4NDNo.jpg

[jwl019]

I tried to design one and couldn't come up with a color scheme I would buy. I think it needs one or two more panels with different colors to help break up the sides a bit more.

[DFTR Josh]

This was the build I would do:
That's sharp, I think I remember one that was built like that. Time to Google search some Max builds.

Here it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI0gNnYIq_U

[kaneboats]

I prefer the “Sport” color scheme for more of the color across the entire length of the boat.

https://flic.kr/p/ZE2qLy

My .02

Totally agree with this and would probably stay away from metal flake. Only a matter of time before it goes out of style again and stays away for 40 years except for bass boats. Then again, pink was all the rage in the 80's and it hasn't come back. Maybe it's due.

[DFTR Josh]

I tried to design one and couldn't come up with a color scheme I would buy. I think it needs one or two more panels with different colors to help break up the sides a bit more.
I was in the same mindset when the Helix came out but it grew on me and now a huge fan. It's limited what you can do I agree but seems that's what's keeping the cost down for a very well preforming vessel.

[Getssum96]

Totally agree with this and would probably stay away from metal flake. Only a matter of time before it goes out of style again and stays away for 40 years except for bass boats. Then again, pink was all the rage in the 80's and it hasn't come back. Maybe it's due.

My boat is a 2004 and the back is all beautiful metal flake, and I'm still not sick of it! As long as there's rednecks long live metal flake :-)

[zabooda]

Totally agree with this and would probably stay away from metal flake. Only a matter of time before it goes out of style again and stays away for 40 years except for bass boats.

Every time I see this statement which happens often I laugh all the way to the bank. The other competitors boats are dated, faded and drab. It is nice to know that I can sell my boat for the same price as what I paid in 2002. I imagine back in 2002 my boat was outdated and just a Moomba but I now have the same value as all the others. Check out what the competitors had for boats in 1998 in immaculate condition. Moomba had a vision back then to be different than the competition and it holds true today.

People associate older boats as being drab and outdated and until the DD boats were phased out I had to tell people my boat is not a new boat. People associate metal flake with expensive and this is why Moomba went away from the metalflake in 2000 is because of cost. I looked at a MC Prostar special edition in 2008 that I was seriously interested in and it had metalflake but it was only in the special edition model. So metalflake appears throughout the years.

The down side is the ability to repair damage but I wouldn't know much about that.

Keep the blue metalflake and white going.

[DFTR Josh]

The down side is the ability to repair damage
I've also heard near impossible to fix and match anything flake.

[sandm]

Then again, pink was all the rage in the 80's and it hasn't come back. Maybe it's due.

wtf.. I got a lot of compliments on the pink graphics on my last boat :)

if I were building that boat, I'd do either blue flake or orange. being back out in the west again, I'd stay away from any color but white for the top deck tho. sun beating down on those darker colors makes it painful to the touch....

[trayson]

Totally agree with this and would probably stay away from metal flake. Only a matter of time before it goes out of style again and stays away for 40 years except for bass boats. Then again, pink was all the rage in the 80's and it hasn't come back. Maybe it's due.

Pink has totally come back. 2015 G23.

https://i.imgur.com/nyU68cW.png

And Kane, you're saying to stay away from flake because it's outside the norm? Have you looked at your hydroturf floor in your boat? That camo is pretty "in your face". I went with Gray hydroturf that perfectly matches the gray carpet that's left in my boat.

Just goes to show that even you have things that others would stay away from like the plague. (Like I see all these people going with a peanut butter brown interior on new boats and I hate it).

Personally, I think you're safe with flake. It's not like it's the tribal graphics or flames you saw on the early 2000 boats.

[jmvotto]

You can always get sparkle tape to add some bling to white spots and then remove when it out of style :o

[trayson]

You can always get sparkle tape to add some bling to white spots and then remove when it out of style :o

I have metal flake vinyl wrap on my XLV and I love it!

[DFTR Josh]

if I were building that boat, I'd do either blue flake or orange. being back out in the west again, I'd stay away from any color but white for the top deck tho. sun beating down on those darker colors makes it painful to the touch....
Blue seems to sale pretty fast but my dealer sat on a boat with just a little orange all season. I will have this MAX in the spring then hit the market around July so of course I want to enjoy it but also have it appealing to potential buyers. Lots of great ideas so far and please keep them coming. The temps around UT see 90's to 100 and I hear ya on the white. I think it was Trayson that posted a boat with the snap in non skid flooring, man that stuff get extremely hot, till they offer Gator it's a hard choice to not go carpet.

[kaneboats]

Bad thing about my camo floor is if I drop my beer can on it I can't find it.

https://forum.moomba.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26381&d=1508952027



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[sandm]

kane's new living room chair to match the boat floor :)

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/b0/28/78/b028789317507c72d6e8c742b94e11b9--camp-chairs-funny-dad.jpg

[kaneboats]

Ha ha. That is not my chair.

However, this may be my couch:

https://forum.moomba.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26382&d=1509024983




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[DFTR Josh]

I remember a few camo boats that came out, specifically a 2006 Nautique 210.

[DFTR Josh]

Been playing with a LOT of colors and keep going back to white.
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[trayson]

Been playing with a LOT of colors and keep going back to white.
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Pretty generic. :-/ For me I bounce back and forth between Brittany Blue Flake with Black accents (sport spray) vs the Black Metal Flake with Captain Blue Accent.

Of course, my dealer keeps getting their build date for their FIRST Max pushed back so they don't even have a demo boat for me to look at. Not that I could really swing it financially--but ya never know what I could juggle. Might not be this year. Might be a few down years down the road, but I see the Max eventually being my XLV replacement if it performs behind the boat up to the hype.

[DFTR Josh]

Pretty generic. :-/ For me I bounce back and forth between Brittany Blue Flake with Black accents (sport spray) vs the Black Metal Flake with Captain Blue Accent.

Of course, my dealer keeps getting their build date for their FIRST Max pushed back so they don't even have a demo boat for me to look at. Not that I could really swing it financially--but ya never know what I could juggle. Might not be this year. Might be a few down years down the road, but I see the Max eventually being my XLV replacement if it performs behind the boat up to the hype.

I guess I never mentioned I would have sold 2 more boats if they were white this year. We had a few in stock with different colors but the customers wanted white. Now will it be the same next year, we will never know? A lot of boats I played with this year were black and blue, nothing against them but it seems the used marked will have plenty of that color. Black and red is another popular color you see here in Utah, that Pro I had over the weekend got a lot of conversations while on the water. Most sparked conversations boat this year and I only had it for 3 days.

[trayson]

I guess I never mentioned I would have sold 2 more boats if they were white this year. We had a few in stock with different colors but the customers wanted white. Now will it be the same next year, we will never know? A lot of boats I played with this year were black and blue, nothing against them but it seems the used marked will have plenty of that color. Black and red is another popular color you see here in Utah, that Pro I had over the weekend got a lot of conversations while on the water. Most sparked conversations boat this year and I only had it for 3 days.

Yeah, never know what people will want. I would never, ever own a red boat. it's just one of those colors that is off limits with the wife and I. Interesting people would want white. I find it bland. I'd never own a white car. Like I said earlier, the peanut butter brown interior is hot right now, but I would never have it on a boat of mine.

I think another popular look is the all black murdered out boat. I would rock black flake on a black hull. that'd be sick.

"Murder Max"
https://i.imgur.com/5mhWxe3.jpg

[DFTR Josh]

Yeah, never know what people will want. I would never, ever own a red boat. it's just one of those colors that is off limits with the wife and I. Interesting people would want white. I find it bland. I'd never own a white car. Like I said earlier, the peanut butter brown interior is hot right now, but I would never have it on a boat of mine.

I think another popular look is the all black murdered out boat. I would rock black flake on a black hull. that'd be sick.

"Murder Max"
Oh hell ya! That would limit the customers that want it but somebody always wants black.

[Stazi]

Black and white theme is boring as shit. Makes it look like a fishing boat. Needs some color!
Like the black and blue flake that someone else posted.


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[sivs1]

not quite as blacked out....
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[DFTR Josh]

Black and white theme is boring as shit. Makes it look like a fishing boat. Needs some color!
Just reminded me of my buddies 02 Super Air with 2 rod holders in the back. We called it the Super Bass Nautique.

not quite as blacked out....
Oooooo I like the gun metal.

[TheBabyBadger]

You can't go wrong. Get ALL the options!!! :-D Seriously don't skimp on all the wake options! They are AMAZING and ridiculously convenient! I posted some extremely amateur vids on YouTube to display the wake. I'm gonna play with them a bit Saturday and post more, including some of the rider L/R toggle, so you can see how quickly it turns the wake over! POST PICS when she shows up!

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[That Guy]

^^^Looks great! What blue is that?

[DFTR Josh]

You can't go wrong. Get ALL the options!!! :-D Seriously don't skimp on all the wake options! They are AMAZING and ridiculously convenient! I posted some extremely amateur vids on YouTube to display the wake. I'm gonna play with them a bit Saturday and post more, including some of the rider L/R toggle, so you can see how quickly it turns the wake over! POST PICS when she shows up!
Great choice on the upgraded MOOMBA letters! Stoked for this opertunity no matter what colors I go with and yes all wake options are a must.

[DFTR Josh]

A little gunmetal and black or dark graphite and gunmetal... Hummmm
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[Prospersigman]

A little gunmetal and black or dark graphite and gunmetal... Hummmm
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The 2nd one is the best looking so far...do it!

[TheBabyBadger]

^^^Looks great! What blue is that?

"Captain Blue"

[TheBabyBadger]

The 2nd one is the best looking so far...do it!

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Nice tow Rig! I went back to an Ecoboost F150, but the Diesel was nice!

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[russellsmojo]

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Storm trooper max is what I would order.


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[DFTR Josh]

Storm trooper max is what I would order.
There's been some all white boats hitting the market lately and looking GOOD!

[Stazi]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171028/93f4dd400ddfa6684c3b7fd51bedbbb6.jpg

Storm trooper max is what I would order.


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Booooooooring.


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[russellsmojo]

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Is that better? The white deck showing in the front makes two other colors hard for me. If you go all black it slightly resembles a skunk from the front.


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[Stazi]

Definitely anything is better than just white.


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[zabooda]

I'm all for color and lots of it. Anything just black and white remind me of cop cars and generic beer.

[DFTR Josh]

generic beer.
I don't know how I haven't seen this picture yet, man that's actually funny.

Is that better? The white deck showing in the front makes two other colors hard for me. If you go all black it slightly resembles a skunk from the front.
Back in the day it was my dream to own an all red boat but when it came to ordering I could never do it. I think if the boat was something I would be keeping I wouldn't worry about safe colors to use. All red with brown interior, yep that's a winner in my book.

[DFTR Josh]

How about Platinum??? Can't find much on the color via Moomba but to me I think it's a light grey.

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[That Guy]

Try that with platinum inside as well so it’s just a 2 color boat.

[mattsask]

Platinum looks sick

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[NoleAlum]

You can't go wrong. Get ALL the options!!! :-D Seriously don't skimp on all the wake options! They are AMAZING and ridiculously convenient! I posted some extremely amateur vids on YouTube to display the wake. I'm gonna play with them a bit Saturday and post more, including some of the rider L/R toggle, so you can see how quickly it turns the wake over! POST PICS when she shows up!

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[DFTR Josh]

Is your flooring the non-skid snap out? Do not see any snaps. Thanks.
It will be carpet, my first Craz had the non skid and it gets way too hot for our summer trips. Cleaning non skid is awesome though.

Try that with platinum inside as well so it’s just a 2 color boat.
I really like this suggestion...

[patrick232]

How about Platinum??? Can't find much on the color via Moomba but to me I think it's a light grey.

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I built a Supra SA ith those colors

[DFTR Josh]

I built a Supra SA ith those colors

Can you share a pic or 2 if it’s built?


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[patrick232]

Can you share a pic or 2 if it’s built?


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

Built online, not built. Going to keep the SR for most of 2018 until the 2019 production window opens then order a new boat.

[DFTR Josh]

Finally got to sit down with all the color samples and nailed my 2018 MAX. Hope to be built in November unless a customer needs a build spot... Marine Products (www.marine-products.com) has really stepped up this year and we have some big plans together. I do have to thank them for believing in me and trusting me with this build. We will have this bad boy dialed early spring when the lakes thaw. It's a long shot but you might see this Max at the UT boat show.

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[trayson]

Pretty bland. But there's obviously people that don't want a boat with pop or color. Utilitarian I guess.

What options did you order up?

[That Guy]

Yay, my vote counted. lol. Platinum and black? No sub? I can see skipping the tower speakers but wouldn’t want to drill that hole in the boat for a sub

[sandm]

We will have this bad boy dialed early spring when the lakes thaw.

hollar if you want some help dialing in the surf wave :)
would love to get a tug behind that thing.... lots of boards to try out fyi :)

[DFTR Josh]

This max will look simple next to the other boats but I'm sure it's going to catch the eye. Actually pretty stoked and when I presented it to Marine Products (www.marine-products.com) it was almost a HELL YA in the meeting.

Let me see if this link works to show options...
2018 DFTR MAX build (https://www.moomba.com/configurator/19?isConfig=false&selectedOptions=3213,3227,3230,3235,3241,3242,3274 ,3278,3291,3300,3743,3746,3755,3767,3769,3773,3776 ,3779,3780,3786,3787,3788,3790,3793,3794,3795,3797 ,3798,3800,3804,3815,3821,3822,3823,3826,4835,4851&sprayPattern=16)

[DFTR Josh]

hollar if you want some help dialing in the surf wave :)
would love to get a tug behind that thing.... lots of boards to try out fyi :)
I'm always down to try out different boards but I think I might snag the 2018 RONIX Skimmer Carbon (https://www.ronixwake.com/Product/2018-skimmer-carbon/) for next season. There's a special place in UT that will start out the year with water and it might just get deep enough to ride. If that's the case it's going to be one hell of a season and you will have to tag along.

[That Guy]

Damn that’s pretty loaded! I’d go darker on the interior personally.

[zabooda]

A dark interior will definitely get the Mocha Moomba hot.

[trayson]

why would you pay $60 extra for a 7 way round trailer plug when the flat 5 to 7 round adapters cost $20 to $30?

Or even less. $12.75 on Amazon Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Marine-BR59396-TrailerWire-Adapter/dp/B005F09NB2

So why is this upgrade worth $60?

[mattsask]

why would you pay $60 extra for a 7 way round trailer plug when the flat 5 to 7 round adapters cost $20 to $30?

Or even less. $12.75 on Amazon Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Marine-BR59396-TrailerWire-Adapter/dp/B005F09NB2

So why is this upgrade worth $60?I agree. I was a bit taken back when I built a max on their website. Do they even make vehicles with a flat 5 plug anymore? You'd think the round 7 would be the standard option.

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[DFTR Josh]

why would you pay $60 extra for a 7 way round trailer plug when the flat 5 to 7 round adapters cost $20 to $30?

Or even less. $12.75 on Amazon Prime.
https://www.amazon.com/Invincible-Marine-BR59396-TrailerWire-Adapter/dp/B005F09NB2

So why is this upgrade worth $60?
I have all the different plugs, extensions and still get the 7 way added on. The fact it's a plug and go is easy and yes another option to help sale the boat. I also agree it should be a standard option like a depth finder, but you pay for it one way or the other.

[trayson]

but you pay for it one way or the other.

Well, as an option, you pay $60.

As an adapter you pay $12.75

THAT's what I'm talking about. it isn't that you "pay" for it one way or the other. It's that you OVER-PAY for it one way, but not the other.

I dunno, call me a cheap ass, but why would I flush the extra $45 down the toilet? Same concept with the upgrade to the Fulton F2 jack. Upgrade from Moomba at $180 or buy it myself at Etrailer (with adapter) for under $150 and throw it on myself in about 10 minutes.

I guess it just bugs me when the upcharge is unreasonable. The upgrade for the jack should cost LESS than the price of buying the F2 jack outright because they're not having to buy the standard jack.

Yes, when we're talking $60k to $75k on a boat, I'm splitting hairs. But money is money.

[5:00]

Adapters are one more link to go bad so it may be worth it for that alone. That being said I would go with the adapter because I am cheap that way. I just had to replace one this season that gave out because it got water in it.

[trayson]

Adapters are one more link to go bad so it may be worth it for that alone. That being said I would go with the adapter because I am cheap that way. I just had to replace one this season that gave out because it got water in it.

I agree. But when I can pretty much guarantee that the difference in materials price between a flat 5 and a round 7 is well under $10, the idea of charging $60 for the upgrade is very unappealing.

[DFTR Josh]

I agree. But when I can pretty much guarantee that the difference in materials price between a flat 5 and a round 7 is well under $10, the idea of charging $60 for the upgrade is very unappealing.
Good news is when your're ready for an upgrade to the Max the 1st owner will take the hit on all the options.

[sandm]

sure is great to live in a country where your worst issue is whether or not to check a box on an order form for a 65k boat and add a $60 round trailer connector :)

it's no different than the truck you buy that the dealer wants $1500 for aftermarket rims you can get for $1100 at the local tire store... or the new house you buy that the builder wants $1k to upgrade to kohler fixtures you can add after the fact for $850.. or the extra meat option at subway for $1.99 that is realistically $.50 worth of product you could get yourself next door at the grocery store...

[zabooda]

Many SUVs don't have the 7 pin like my buddy using my enclosed trailer this week for moving without the lights and brakes working. Yikes, I just looked the other way. I'm a fan of standardization so when I see a seven pin on something it normally isn't installed on then I assumed Bubba did a modification and 50% of the time it was wired incorrectly. It often asks the question what else did Bubba change? If you have to use another vehicle to tow it you may find yourself towing it without lights also.

[DFTR Josh]

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This pic from Wakeworld.com claims to be a 2018 Moomba Max. "I'm a looking and I'm a liking!"

[sandm]

I'd like to ride that :)

[DFTR Josh]

Anybody try or have a suggestion to try and get 18's on the new Max? For such a large boat and the amount of towing I do it feels 18's would not only help the look but the performance of the trailer. I know this is far fetched but are the trailers any different going from 14's to 18's? Rick T or Drew T, help?

[Stazi]

How will that help the performance? 14's will have more sidewall and more cushion than 18's, with the same overall rolling diameter. With 14's you will soak up bumps better than the lower profile tires of 18's. Plus to me, the cost of 18" tires on a trailer is a waste.


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[DFTR Josh]

How will that help the performance? 14's will have more sidewall and more cushion than 18's, with the same oveHrall rolling diameter. With 14's you will soak up bumps better than the lower profile tires of 18's. Plus to me, the cost of 18" tires on a trailer is a waste.
From what I was told with a tire account I have the 18's are rated for better highway speed and actually hold up better then the 14 inch trailer rated tire. I have nothing to support this information, more trust from a tire expert then anything.

[That Guy]

Pretty sure the trailer just requires the wider renders for the larger wheels.

[russellsmojo]

From what I was told with a tire account I have the 18's are rated for better highway speed and actually hold up better then the 14 inch trailer rated tire. I have nothing to support this information, more trust from a tire expert then anything.

I bet that’s correct for 14. Don’t know that same argument holds true for 15’s. But hey that’s something you can tell the wife to justify the extra $2k.


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[DFTR Josh]

I was surprised the other day when I looked at the 2018 Max and it had 14" wheels. The $2k is hard to swallow but a better option IMO since I do 7 hour tows about every 3 weeks.

[russellsmojo]

I was surprised the other day when I looked at the 2018 Max and it had 14" wheels. The $2k is hard to swallow but a better option IMO since I do 7 hour tows about every 3 weeks.

Are you buying this one to own for a while? Doubt you will get $2k back in resale as quick as you flip.


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[That Guy]

Are you buying this one to own for a while? Doubt you will get $2k back in resale as quick as you flip.
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This x10! A person shopping for a Max imo is looking for a lower cost of entry, why jack that up $2k for some aftermarket wheels/tires. People have been pulling trailers with 14" wheels/tires for many years/millions of miles without issues. And how sure are you that the Max comes with 14's? The two I have seen come with the same wheels that my trailer has, so I assumed they were the base wheels.

[Stazi]

IMHO that's $2000 I'd rather spend on boards, ballast, stereo etc.


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[DFTR Josh]

Are you buying this one to own for a while? Doubt you will get $2k back in resale as quick as you flip.
It's going to be the promo Max for my local shop, It's not a huge deal just would feel better towing.

This x10! A person shopping for a Max imo is looking for a lower cost of entry, why jack that up $2k for some aftermarket wheels/tires. People have been pulling trailers with 14" wheels/tires for many years/millions of miles without issues. And how sure are you that the Max comes with 14's? The two I have seen come with the same wheels that my trailer has, so I assumed they were the base wheels.
Talking with the shop when putting in the build we went and checked their current Max and it had 14's on it. I owned a boat with 14's and it took 4 years before I had problems. Now I did follow the max speed suggestion, not crazy tight corners, and off the ground when not in use. I personally think the larger wheels will look much better with such a big boat. Odds are getting larger wheels on a Max isn't going to happen.

[russellsmojo]

Promo boat then go for it. They would look really good. The bigger wheels change the cool factor for sure.

And since promo check every box. Show people what they could have!!


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[DFTR Josh]

And since promo check every box. Show people what they could have!!
Pretty much did that...

[trayson]

I don't know if your theory that 18's are better is valid. There's a lot of debate out there about using LT (light truck) tires instead of ST (special trailer) tires.

The ST's are going to have higher and likely stiffer sidewalls. I think they'll do better for the sideways dragging that happens when you do tight turns with your double axle trailer. The ST's are rated to 65mph. The LT's are probably rated for higher speeds. You'll have to really look and see what the load ratings are on each version.

the #1 reason why you'd go to 18" wheels on a trailer is for ASTHETICS. it's all about the looks. Also, the 18's are wider so boatmate needs to add 2" to the fender width.

https://rvingwithmarkpolk.com/2012/11/08/trailer-towing-st-tires-vs-lt-tires/

https://www.etrailer.com/question-59480.html

[DFTR Josh]

I don't know if your theory that 18's are better is valid. There's a lot of debate out there about using LT (light truck) tires instead of ST (special trailer) tires.

The ST's are going to have higher and likely stiffer sidewalls. I think they'll do better for the sideways dragging that happens when you do tight turns with your double axle trailer. The ST's are rated to 65mph. The LT's are probably rated for higher speeds. You'll have to really look and see what the load ratings are on each version.

the #1 reason why you'd go to 18" wheels on a trailer is for ASTHETICS. it's all about the looks. Also, the 18's are wider so boatmate needs to add 2" to the fender width.

https://rvingwithmarkpolk.com/2012/11/08/trailer-towing-st-tires-vs-lt-tires/

https://www.etrailer.com/question-59480.html
Thanks for the links, some really good reading and info.

[DFTR Josh]

Trying to get the side bins for the MAX, you can't pick them online so Marine Products (www.marine-products.com) is helping since my order is already in. I have to say the above the engine tray is damn awesome but I don't know how the hell you get it out, LOL.

[Boonejeepin]

Trying to get the side bins for the MAX, you can't pick them online so Marine Products (www.marine-products.com) is helping since my order is already in. I have to say the above the engine tray is damn awesome but I don't know how the hell you get it out, LOL.

Pop off one of the engine hatch struts on the lower end and you can then work the tray out and get it out. Pry the little cap off and then you can pull the lower strut mount off.

I went the route of cutting access holes in the side divider panels so Incan nice the latches from the locker side and remove the side panel.


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[DFTR Josh]

Pop off one of the engine hatch struts on the lower end and you can then work the tray out and get it out. Pry the little cap off and then you can pull the lower strut mount off.

I went the route of cutting access holes in the side divider panels so Incan nice the latches from the locker side and remove the side panel.
Ya I didn't want to bend and break it so I just left it alone. I will have to figure out and easy take out since I check my oil before and after running the boat during the break in.

[DFTR Josh]

Well the UT boat show is in full swing and the MAX sure got a lot of attention. Spending most of the night in the MAX I'm more stoked then ever to get this boat and share with everybody. Storage bins were a big hit and I did find a way to get the center tray out and not have to take off a strut. This is a huge plus since I will be checking the oil frequently during the break in. Now the side trays I couldn't get out, seems like they were built with the boat since they're so big. I will figure out the best way to get these out since I do a lot of bag adjustment when first getting the boat. I think I'll get a back flow valve for the sacks to help with completely draining the bag. Anybody have experience with these and did they help? I had a few customers last night that were focused on the Mojo and asked them to take a look at the MAX. Limited options but the response and feedback was amazing. Talking with Wakemakers and seeing the custom bag they're working on for the MAX was quite cool. Sounds like it's not 100% to their liking as far as fit but are really close. 1600 lbs per side will take this MAX to the next level for surfing. They're also working on a plug and play for the bow, soon you will be able to equip the MAX for major water displacement.

[Stazi]

Can’t wait to see real users sack it out and blow boats double the cost, out of,the water, pardon the pun.


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[Boonejeepin]

I am enjoying mine!!!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180211/19cf5769c57c5914e2c1775013262c58.jpg


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[DFTR Josh]

I am enjoying mine!!!!
4 days of talking a digging through the MAX I'm quite excited to get and play with this boat. I was pretty surprised how many people didn't know the MAX even was part of the Moomba lineup. Started a lot of conversations at the boat show at the Craz and ended up at the MAX since the price was right. I did up helping to sale the Helix at the show, that customer is going to be very happy and have a heck of a summer. If anybody has more shots of their MAX please share :)

[russellsmojo]

Thoughts about max or mojo? Which one?


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[DFTR Josh]

Thoughts about max or mojo? Which one?
Pro's and con's about both boats... After last year and spending time in the Helix I em sold it's the best hull that Moomba has to offer. Wakeboard wake is above average and the surf was the easiest to form but needed more weight. Now the MAX is the same boat just bigger I can't wait to see what it will do. My biggest selling point between the MAX and Mojo is the sub floor ballast in the nose. Now I can put the gear that I don't touch all the time and have a home for it, anchor, tent, sleeping bags, etc. What you can order as far as options for the Mojo trumps the MAX and actually put off a few people and wanting to stay with the Mojo. Having my choice of boats this season and it was a no brainer for me to get the MAX. MP might have sold my build spot over the show so I don't know when I'm going to see mine. Was hoping to have it next month ish :confused:

[russellsmojo]

The max tower is a wonder I have. Does anyone have feedback? Sturdy? Is it low?Will speakers cause concussions? Shade from Bimini enough?


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[Getssum96]

Russell: The tower on the MAX that I rode behind at Polar Bear seemed fairly sturdy, and of decent height. (I'm 5'-10"). The speakers were very small, as was the bimini. If I were buying one, I'd probably consider going with some sort of aftermarket bimini and definitely some different tower speakers.

[Boonejeepin]

The tower seems sturdy. A little lower than I am used to but OK with selective speaker placement. The Bimini coverage is OK. The bimini operation is quick and easy. A little more coverage and surf pockets would be nice.


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[DFTR Josh]

The max tower is a wonder I have. Does anyone have feedback? Sturdy? Is it low?Will speakers cause concussions? Shade from Bimini enough?
The tower will be a little shorter then you're used to but with the sides of the MAX bigger it help to raise it a few inches. The tower is pretty dang solid and speaker placement will be key. At the show it seemed we had 8-10" speakers on the MAX and was all the way in the corner, no way you will want to hang another set towards the middle or you will be ducking all the time. Shade top is crazy easy to setup with just 1 person and you get decent coverage. Of course surf pockets would make this top a dream it's just not available to order with the A2 tower that's only for the MAX.

[Chopper d]

What's the best way to mount a pair of rev 10s to the max tower?

[Boonejeepin]

What's the best way to mount a pair of rev 10s to the max tower?

I mounted a pair of XM9s on the forward bar, pretty far out to the side. Have not ran into a clearance issue yet.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180213/56e8fbf8ed65ccf2d5accd0648cca9f2.jpg


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[DFTR Josh]

I mounted a pair of XM9s on the forward bar, pretty far out to the side. Have not ran into a clearance issue yet.
Suggest to remove a couple of warning labels off that tower. Our MAX at the show also had the speakers tucked into the corner and looked very good.

[Prospersigman]

Suggest to remove a couple of warning labels off that tower.

I 2nd that request...1st thing I do when I get a new boat is go over front to back and remove all the warning stickers everywhere.

[DFTR Josh]

I 2nd that request...1st thing I do when I get a new boat is go over front to back and remove all the warning stickers everywhere.
Blow dryer and about 7 minutes and it's all done...

[DFTR Josh]

What is MAX? I am new, so I don't know much( Sorry
11 pages to read up on before posting... Also directly from Moomba for information reguarding the MAX https://www.moomba.com/models/max

[DFTR Josh]

As said in another thread I got word from my dealer that the MAX started production yesterday :D

[costanza]

Hey there, this boat wasn't even on my radar until I saw it yesterday at the Ottawa boat show... Anyone know how the surf wave compares to Supreme S238? We're looking to get a competition grade surf wave as my family started competing last year. Was thinking about pulling the trigger on a Supreme S238 as we got to surf it last summer and wave was really good and price is at a good level for the size wave you get... Price is great on Max (~93k Canadian peso), just want to make sure wave in line with competition grade waves for surfing... I'm heading back to boat show today for another look. What kind of incentives are they giving out at the boat shows in the US? What upgrades are recommended - keeping in mind my main interest is bigger surf wave. Thanks for any input...

[Stazi]

They have a Max for sale at the Detroit boat show right now for $62,800. Pretty damn good for a new big surf machine. I bet with the right ballast setup it will blow the Supreme 238 out of the water. The Supreme hulls shapes are still old school like the Sanger’s. Very little deadrise....


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[DFTR Josh]

Hey there, this boat wasn't even on my radar until I saw it yesterday at the Ottawa boat show... Anyone know how the surf wave compares to Supreme S238? We're looking to get a competition grade surf wave as my family started competing last year. Was thinking about pulling the trigger on a Supreme S238 as we got to surf it last summer and wave was really good and price is at a good level for the size wave you get... Price is great on Max (~93k Canadian peso), just want to make sure wave in line with competition grade waves for surfing... I'm heading back to boat show today for another look. What kind of incentives are they giving out at the boat shows in the US? What upgrades are recommended - keeping in mind my main interest is bigger surf wave. Thanks for any input...
MAX being so new it's going to have limited action but there are a few that have shared they were glad they went with the MAX. As stated above the freeboard of the MAX can't be beat and that adds to storage inside which is in a class of it's own. I'm sure the MAX will preform exactly how your family would like, you might want to play with the ballast a little. Wakemakers is making bags for the MAX that will not only fit perfect BUT turn this into a surf monster. Boat show in UT was offering 7-YEAR ENGINE & DRIVETRAIN FACTORY WARRANTY + $1,500 IN BOAT SHOW CREDIT.

[flynnva]

The Max is a newer designed hull, from reviews, it's very capable of making a awesome surf wave. I was looking at the Supreme S238 6 months ago and was told to truly perform it needed more ballast and the upgraded engine, it's almost 24' and weighs only 200lbs more than the Max and with the Supremes upgraded ballast, it's still 300lbs less ballast than the Max's stock 3000lbs of ballast. Unless you are dealing with altitude I think the stock Raptor engine is fine in the Max. The S238 when fully loaded will need the upgraded engine. I picked the Mojo over the S238 once I compared the fit and finish of both boats. I have since went to Skiers Choice and toured the factory and I can tell you in my opinion it is a well made boat by a group that truly appreciates you as a customer. Also, like Josh covered, in the U.S. the boat show deal is 7 year warranty and $1500 in options.

[DFTR Josh]

Got some rough but EXCITING news today... The price of having a demo boat and ordering boring colors the MAX has sold! The plan for right now is a 2018 Craz and some sexy dark colors that MP has in stock. I'm pretty stoked since this was the first model that I started in and sold pretty quickly, having a chance to play with the Craz is pretty exciting. MP will still have a MAX and mentioned if I'm interested I can take it out also.
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[trayson]

Got some rough but EXCITING news today... The price of having a demo boat and ordering boring colors the MAX has sold! The plan for right now is a 2018 Craz and some sexy dark colors that MP has in stock. I'm pretty stoked since this was the first model that I started in and sold pretty quickly, having a chance to play with the Craz is pretty exciting. MP will still have a MAX and mentioned if I'm interested I can take it out also.
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All that stoke and you don't even get to play with it. Max is a hot seller for sure. Dealers will be hard pressed to keep them in stock, much less have a demo Max available for you to play with as a freebie. I was honestly looking forward to your feedback on the wakeboard wake.

[DFTR Josh]

All that stoke and you don't even get to play with it. Max is a hot seller for sure. Dealers will be hard pressed to keep them in stock, much less have a demo Max available for you to play with as a freebie. I was honestly looking forward to your feedback on the wakeboard wake.
Build slots I'm sure have a factor in customers buying what's in stock. My dealer had 2 other MAX's on the floor but the platinum MAX was the choice. The customer who bought it will have a well equipped boat, stoked for them. I did ask for them to let me know when it arrives so I can at least see it in person. I'm still going to get to see different MAX's and help the wakeboard wake, just don't know when I can link up with the others.

[DFTR Josh]

Well the MAX came in and I can’t wait to see this thing unwrapped. Not sure when the customer is picking it up but I need to see it.
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DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[MJHSupra]

I heard it was 1) SL and 2) MAX for boat show sales.

Next year it will be the SE.

Agree. SC builds a limited number of boats, so he dealers will hard pressed to keep them (MAX) in stock until the 19s gets out with changes.


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[DFTR Josh]

I prefer the “Sport” color scheme for more of the color across the entire length of the boat.
This is the sport which the main is platinum, dark graphite hull and platinum deck.

[That Guy]

Need more pics! Want to get a good idea on what platinum really looks like.

[DFTR Josh]

Need more pics! Want to get a good idea on what platinum really looks like.
You and me both! I've talked to about everybody to not let that boat go out until I can see it all. It's going to look so good with platinum matching the deck also.

[BrettLee3232]

You and me both! I've talked to about everybody to not let that boat go out until I can see it all. It's going to look so good with platinum matching the deck also.

Tell them to send you some pics. I’m getting lonely over here...


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[DFTR Josh]

Tell them to send you some pics. I’m getting lonely over here...
Hell no, I'm going to get the pics and see this bad boy in person.

[costanza]

Not sure if it's been posted already - good review of some surf boats, including Moomba Max... Interesting to read the riders comments section on the web site comparing all the boats ...

http://wake9.com/2018/03/19/2017-polar-bear-review/

[MJHSupra]

Not sure if it's been posted already - good review of some surf boats, including Moomba Max... Interesting to read the riders comments section on the web site comparing all the boats ...

http://wake9.com/2018/03/19/2017-polar-bear-review/

Yea. Ragboy, who hosts the event, was a big fan of the MAX surf wave.

He was a Tige guy for years, but switched to a SE. He may be a SL guy in the future after giving that boat a big positive review. Straight shooter on any boat brand.

Need more like him. Too many wahoos on WakeWorld.


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[DFTR Josh]

So of course I didn’t get my MAX but damn it looks good. I did have another buddy go from an 03 210 to a new MAX and is loving it. The 210 is know for one of the best wakes in the business and they’re loving this MAX it sounds like. From what I got it does need more nose ballast since you get a little bow dance and that’s never fun for the rider. They are riding between 23-27 mph and the wake is holding up no matter what. I’m told wonderful transition and a good lip to send you up with control. Based on the pic I’d hit that!
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DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[dusty2221]

23-27!?!? Holy go fast batman! I think the average Joe would prefer to ride 18-23, any feedback on those speeds?

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[Stazi]

23-27!?!? Holy go fast batman! I think the average Joe would prefer to ride 18-23, any feedback on those speeds?

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We usually ride 22.5-23. 27mph would be scary to biff at! I can’t even imagine catching an edge at that speed or crashing a jump, especially since you are going at a factor of at least twice than when you cut across and are crossing the wake.

[BrettLee3232]

Shoot I can barely crash at 10.3 [emoji23]


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[DFTR Josh]

We usually ride 22.5-23. 27mph would be scary to biff at! I can’t even imagine catching an edge at that speed or crashing a jump, especially since you are going at a factor of at least twice than when you cut across and are crossing the wake.

It’s something else to see in person. A guy riding 27 and a 92’ rope will blow your mind. Some of the biggest air’s but damn scary at that speed. I myself ride 23-24 depending on Wake and water. If summer would arrive here in UT on a weekend I’m ready to see how this Craz is at Wake speeds.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[Stazi]

Shoot I can barely crash at 10.3 [emoji23]


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[BrettLee3232]

Crash and 10.3 don’t go together. You might need this. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180409/d1417c80265b604df606b6a40dcb268a.jpeg


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[LAwake]

Crash and 10.3 don’t go together. You might need this. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180409/d1417c80265b604df606b6a40dcb268a.jpeg


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BAHAHAHA!:grin:

[trayson]

23-27!?!? Holy go fast batman! I think the average Joe would prefer to ride 18-23, any feedback on those speeds?

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^^^^^ THIS.

Give us some real feedback we can use. Whether the wake holds up at SLOWER speeds is way more relevant. And the Max is the unknown. We aren't all that interested in wakes of mojo's and craz... those have been out for quite a while.

[DFTR Josh]

Give us some real feedback we can use.
Not having the MAX limits me on info but your appreciation from what I did get is off the charts. If I end up in a MAX I’ll try to report back with useful information.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[trayson]

Not having the MAX limits me on info but your appreciation from what I did get is off the charts. If I end up in a MAX I’ll try to report back with useful information.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

Don't get your feelers hurt! LOL.

We're ALL stoked for info on the Max. And I love the stoke you have for boating and wakeboarding. But I also have to temper that with the fact that you're only a half step away from being a boat salesman. So sometimes it's hard to separate the content of your posts from that of being a genuine enthusiast vs. that of when you're jumping into the sales pitch. I mean, you get free boats to play with, so you can't be 100% objective. It just struck me as HUH? when it's a thread about the max and you're telling us you'll report back with the Craz wake...

[sivs1]

Don't get your feelers hurt! LOL.

We're ALL stoked for info on the Max. And I love the stoke you have for boating and wakeboarding. But I also have to temper that with the fact that you're only a half step away from being a boat salesman. So sometimes it's hard to separate the content of your posts from that of being a genuine enthusiast vs. that of when you're jumping into the sales pitch. I mean, you get free boats to play with, so you can't be 100% objective. It just struck me as HUH? when it's a thread about the max and you're telling us you'll report back with the Craz wake...

Gentle Trayson! I saw a recent write up of a guy that was looking at a G23, a MB B52 or a RZX. Thought it was odd that the B52 was in the mix. A Craz and a Max could attract the same buyer, a true side by side comparison of each would be awesome. DFTR needs to figure out how to get a Max and a Craz out on the same day, same lake and perform a true test of each, side by side. Josh, let me know if you need help once you arrange that with Randy!

[trayson]

Gentle Trayson!

Okay, okay. I think I have a case of the Mondays! Back at work after a week's vacation + fighting a cold + amp'd up on Sudafed + missed the weekend pow at the mountain + no boating in sight because of rain...

I like Josh. He's rad. He has an open invite on my boat. I must have been in a 'call him out' mood. :-)

[DFTR Josh]

Don't get your feelers hurt! LOL.

We're ALL stoked for info on the Max. And I love the stoke you have for boating and wakeboarding. But I also have to temper that with the fact that you're only a half step away from being a boat salesman. So sometimes it's hard to separate the content of your posts from that of being a genuine enthusiast vs. that of when you're jumping into the sales pitch. I mean, you get free boats to play with, so you can't be 100% objective. It just struck me as HUH? when it's a thread about the max and you're telling us you'll report back with the Craz wake...
It's all good, I wish I could make a living as a boat sales guy! Some how my obsessive nature with boating has landed me with one of the best dealers in the nation to partner with. I try to stay away from any sales pitch since I'm not selling boats but more of a brand promoter. If I come off a boat sales person then I don't mind to be called out anytime. I think in this market there's a ton of great options and depends what boat and budget fits your lifestyle, I just hope to make sure people try out Skiers Choice before their final decision. Boats don't come free for me and actually takes a lot of my personal time to keep this relationship building but I wouldn't change it for most things. Best part is all the different people I get to meet and connect with that share the love of boating.

DFTR needs to figure out how to get a Max and a Craz out on the same day, same lake and perform a true test of each, side by side. Josh, let me know if you need help once you arrange that with Randy!
I'm hoping for a little warmer weather and really push to get out on the MAX. From what I have heard the MAX has been out quite a bit already and the most requested demo out of the Moomba lineup.

[MJHSupra]

I'm hoping for a little warmer weather and really push to get out on the MAX. From what I have heard the MAX has been out quite a bit already and the most requested demo out of the Moomba lineup.

How many G, BU, and MC owners do you have around to demo the Supra SL?
Bigger dollar boat so I would guess smaller market.

MAX would be appealing to various audiences at that price point.

[DFTR Josh]

How many G, BU, and MC owners do you have around to demo the Supra SL?
Bigger dollar boat so I would guess smaller market. MAX would be appealing to various audiences at that price point.
I'm not sure on the Supra line since I deal mostly with the Moomba side. I do know my dealer has a instructor school at the local lake and they are out on the lake everyday. Can't tell ya if it's a demo or shopping customers but it has helped sale Supra boats. The SL at the boat show was the top selling boat by far out of the entire line.

[DFTR Josh]

If everything falls into place I will have a MAX out this weekend to give it a go. Still pretty cold here but hope to report back on everything about the boat that I can.

[trayson]

If everything falls into place I will have a MAX out this weekend to give it a go. Still pretty cold here but hope to report back on everything about the boat that I can.

Looking forward to hearing about it!

[DFTR Josh]

Well the first demo on the all new MAX was a success! Congrats to anyone that's thinking about or has picked up the MAX, this boat is a home run. Here's a little of what I thought about the boat...
Helm: I don't know if it's just this boat but the drivers seat does sit a little to high, my view was right out the top of the window frame. It's not too bad since underway it opens our view over the bow. With the higher seat the arm rest was a little low for my liking since I use it while driving. I had to bend down a little but nothing you couldn't adjust to. I did have to use the booster while at surf speeds and man you have a pretty open view with how high everything is. The space in this area is fantastic and sure anybody big or not will fit with ease. Having the screen set to the right of the wheel was great, first time not reaching around the steering wheel to press buttons. No problem spending a lot of time in this area with long days on the water.
Surf: As most have seen the surf is out of this world. I don't have to dive much into it and out of the box most people will be very happy with it.
Wake: You will need a good amount of extra weight for the nose. The MAX seems to bow dance a little more then the other models. I didn't have enough weight so I pulled others rather then taking a turn. I'm going to say plan a 750 ish bag or look at options for plug and play, you will need it. From what I could see if you wakeboard you will LOVE this boat!!!

[DFTR Josh]

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DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
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[trayson]

Well the first demo on the all new MAX was a success! Congrats to anyone that's thinking about or has picked up the MAX, this boat is a home run. Here's a little of what I thought about the boat...
Helm: I don't know if it's just this boat but the drivers seat does sit a little to high, my view was right out the top of the window frame. It's not too bad since underway it opens our view over the bow. With the higher seat the arm rest was a little low for my liking since I use it while driving. I had to bend down a little but nothing you couldn't adjust to. I did have to use the booster while at surf speeds and man you have a pretty open view with how high everything is. The space in this area is fantastic and sure anybody big or not will fit with ease. Having the screen set to the right of the wheel was great, first time not reaching around the steering wheel to press buttons. No problem spending a lot of time in this area with long days on the water.
Surf: As most have seen the surf is out of this world. I don't have to dive much into it and out of the box most people will be very happy with it.
Wake: You will need a good amount of extra weight for the nose. The MAX seems to bow dance a little more then the other models. I didn't have enough weight so I pulled others rather then taking a turn. I'm going to say plan a 750 ish bag or look at options for plug and play, you will need it. From what I could see if you wakeboard you will LOVE this boat!!!

Help me understand better about the wakeboard wake. Does this boat have autowake? What amount of weight did you have in the boat and where? what speed were you running?

And more pics!!!!!

[DFTR Josh]

Help me understand better about the wakeboard wake. Does this boat have autowake? What amount of weight did you have in the boat and where? what speed were you running? And more pics!!!!!
Yes this MAX had Autowake but it's far from dialed in since everybody surfs around here. You for sure need AW to engage the launch system to get on plane. For weight we filled her up 100 with 5 adults running at 22-23. I had an extra 240 in lead all the way up front but it needs a LOT more. The bow would bounce pretty bad which we had to use the wake plate to stop it deployed 75+ which ruined the wake. Sucks only having limited time with the MAX and not enough nose weight to really give her a work out. I only caught a couple of pics since I was running the boat and trying to get everything worked out the best I could. Lame on my part...

[trayson]

Yes this MAX had Autowake but it's far from dialed in since everybody surfs around here. You for sure need AW to engage the launch system to get on plane. For weight we filled her up 100 with 5 adults running at 22-23. I had an extra 240 in lead all the way up front but it needs a LOT more. The bow would bounce pretty bad which we had to use the wake plate to stop it deployed 75+ which ruined the wake. Sucks only having limited time with the MAX and not enough nose weight to really give her a work out. I only caught a couple of pics since I was running the boat and trying to get everything worked out the best I could. Lame on my part...

So I'm thinking that instead of adding bow weight, why don't you simply decrease the rear weight?

I know that on my XLV, my "go to" setting for the average intermediate to advanced rider is simply having the front 1180 bag full at about 21.5mph And if I really wanna play, I'll additionally fill the rear bags half to 2/3. So I feel ya on nose weight. I bet if you backed some of the weight off the stern of the Max, it'd clean up nicely and be pretty sick.

And I feel ya on pics. I rarely get any on my phone but luckily my friends and fam usually pull theirs out and capture some fun stuff.

[Stazi]

So I'm thinking that instead of adding bow weight, why don't you simply decrease the rear weight?

I know that on my XLV, my "go to" setting for the average intermediate to advanced rider is simply having the front 1180 bag full at about 21.5mph And if I really wanna play, I'll additionally fill the rear bags half to 2/3. So I feel ya on nose weight. I bet if you backed some of the weight off the stern of the Max, it'd clean up nicely and be pretty sick.

And I feel ya on pics. I rarely get any on my phone but luckily my friends and fam usually pull theirs out and capture some fun stuff.

Yeah, but that just makes the wake smaller. If you are looking to Max out the MAX wake, then you need more weight up front, not less in the back


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[trayson]

Yeah, but that just makes the wake smaller. If you are looking to Max out the MAX wake, then you need more weight up front, not less in the back


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I hear ya. Finding out the optimal MAXXED out setup would be interesting. But from a real world practical standpoint, I'm personally more interested in finding out what kind of mid-level wakeboard wake can be made with the Max. Like I said, I'll ride my XLV the vast majority of the time with just the 1180 bag. And I'm the best wakeboard rider of my crew (no inverts, just heelside jumps with grabs and some 180s... I'm not anything that would draw ooooh and ahhhs, but I still love to ride). When I rode my buddy's G23, I was having him tone down the wake, because it was more than I wanted. So, if a Max could throw a clean but moderate wake, that would be very useful info for me and how I would actually use one.

[DFTR Josh]

I hear ya. Finding out the optimal MAXXED out setup would be interesting. But from a real world practical standpoint, I'm personally more interested in finding out what kind of mid-level wakeboard wake can be made with the Max. Like I said, I'll ride my XLV the vast majority of the time with just the 1180 bag. And I'm the best wakeboard rider of my crew (no inverts, just heelside jumps with grabs and some 180s... I'm not anything that would draw ooooh and ahhhs, but I still love to ride). When I rode my buddy's G23, I was having him tone down the wake, because it was more than I wanted. So, if a Max could throw a clean but moderate wake, that would be very useful info for me and how I would actually use one.
The MAX will throw a clean wake for what you're describing with no problem. Even unloaded and about 17 it was super clean for beginners to have a great time and build confidence. For basic wake and exceptional surf you will be more then happy with this boat. I was hoping to get results to write home about but failed and need more time on the MAX. I'm going to try and find maybe a 650 bag I can use with the Craz also and see what I can come up with. The Craz also need bow weight but don't jump around quite as bad as the MAX.

[trayson]

The MAX will throw a clean wake for what you're describing with no problem. Even unloaded and about 17 it was super clean for beginners to have a great time and build confidence. For basic wake and exceptional surf you will be more then happy with this boat. I was hoping to get results to write home about but failed and need more time on the MAX. I'm going to try and find maybe a 650 bag I can use with the Craz also and see what I can come up with. The Craz also need bow weight but don't jump around quite as bad as the MAX.

Thanks Josh. That's just the kinda stuff that I wanna hear. It definitely reinforces the idea that I'll be in a Max in a couple of years once they hit the used market. :-)

[DFTR Josh]

Check out what I spotted today!
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[trayson]

Did it call you Daddy?

[DFTR Josh]

Did it call you Daddy?

It didn’t even look at me!


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Moomba/Supra
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