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[Broke Pilot]

Anybody ride the Phase 5 Hammerhead? I got to try a Doomswell Neo behind the new SA. It was fun but they are thick boards like a real surf board. Seemed heavy, and not that it matters a whole lot, harder to store and carry on the boat since I don't have pockets and the PTM clamp rack aren't big enough.
I want something that will spin easily and can pop pretty good off the lip. My Byerly Buzz is just too locked in, even after playing with the fins. If I remove all of them I'm just not good enough to control it, I'm realistic here... lol
So, Hammerhead, Neo, one of the Soulcraft boards, any other rec's? Inland? Soulcraft doesn't put great descriptions of the boards like Doomswell and phase 5.

[jwl019]

Since you are in TX, have you looked at Chaos Wakesurfboards?
http://chaossurfco.com

I have a Doomswell Neo and I want to pick up one of tge Chaos boards from Nick too! Think I will go with a hybrid style surfboard from him.

[muehlcj]

Anybody ride the Phase 5 Hammerhead? I got to try a Doomswell Neo behind the new SA. It was fun but they are thick boards like a real surf board. Seemed heavy, and not that it matters a whole lot, harder to store and carry on the boat since I don't have pockets and the PTM clamp rack aren't big enough.
I want something that will spin easily and can pop pretty good off the lip. My Byerly Buzz is just too locked in, even after playing with the fins. If I remove all of them I'm just not good enough to control it, I'm realistic here... lol
So, Hammerhead, Neo, one of the Soulcraft boards, any other rec's? Inland? Soulcraft doesn't put great descriptions of the boards like Doomswell and phase 5.

Step 1 - Determine what style of riding you want to do. From that choose surf or skim. The Buzz is really a hybrid. Your riding will progress faster within each style and overall if you ride the right equipment for each. If you are into surface spins and shuvs go skim. If you are into airs, hacks, or spins above the lip go surf.
Step 2 - Choose a manufacture. If it's surf Soulcraft and Chaos are great choices. Nick and Jeff are experts. A surf style SC or Chaos will not feel heavy. They will probably be in the 4-5lb range @ 4-6" in length. Do not put a SC or Chaos board in the rack even if it fits. Def do not put in a bimini sleeve either. If it's skim I would suggest Exile or Victoria.
Step - Get out and rip

[Broke Pilot]

Sweet! I'll look at the chaos boards. Didn't know they were local

[Hayden]

Do not put a SC or Chaos board in the rack even if it fits. Def do not put in a bimini sleeve either.

We were putting them in the aisle but found that once you have 4+ people in the boat it was cumbersome getting to the bow. We had planned to build a sleeve-bimini next season. This is the first time I've heard someone say you shouldn't use one. What are the reasons for not using a sleeve bimini? What are the alternatives? We typically have 3 boards on the boat.

[muehlcj]

We were putting them in the aisle but found that once you have 4+ people in the boat it was cumbersome getting to the bow. We had planned to build a sleeve-bimini next season. This is the first time I've heard someone say you shouldn't use one. What are the reasons for not using a sleeve bimini? What are the alternatives? We typically have 3 boards on the boat.

Nearly all manufactures use EPS foam and epoxy resin. Neither will do well in heat. Especially not a black bimini sleeve in the hot sun. As the EPS starts to off gas the board will delaminate.

[Hayden]

Do you normally keep them in board bags in the aisle? Was thinking that if you made a sleeve bimini out of silver/reflective fabric you could mitigate the heat on the board. Also saw some under-bimini holders but that would be a more complicated DIY project.

[muehlcj]

Do you normally keep them in board bags in the aisle? Was thinking that if you made a sleeve bimini out of silver/reflective fabric you could mitigate the heat on the board. Also saw some under-bimini holders but that would be a more complicated DIY project.

I would keep them away from the bimini over or under, reflective fabric or not. Board bags or socks in a safe place on the boat. You don't want to pay $800+ for a board and use it only once.

[trayson]

Anybody ride the Phase 5 Hammerhead? I got to try a Doomswell Neo behind the new SA. It was fun but they are thick boards like a real surf board. Seemed heavy, and not that it matters a whole lot, harder to store and carry on the boat since I don't have pockets and the PTM clamp rack aren't big enough.
I want something that will spin easily and can pop pretty good off the lip. My Byerly Buzz is just too locked in, even after playing with the fins. If I remove all of them I'm just not good enough to control it, I'm realistic here... lol
So, Hammerhead, Neo, one of the Soulcraft boards, any other rec's? Inland? Soulcraft doesn't put great descriptions of the boards like Doomswell and phase 5.

All the EPS boards are gonna be "thick like a real surfboard". That means soulcraft, Doomswell, Parker SC, Chaos... they should all be the thicker, lighter, more buoyant and fast boards.

[dakota4ce]

Caution: not all EPS are the same categorically. Choose a craftsman that shapes it by hand and gives it the bottom contours that make it fast.


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[muehlcj]

[QUOTE=dakota4ce;317726]Caution: not all EPS are the same categorically. Choose a craftsman that shapes it by hand and gives it the bottom contours that make it fast.


There's a lot of magic that goes into the bottom contours on every board. Def. makes a huge difference. What do you think works for you and your crew?

[wario]

If I was on Conroe all the time I wouldn’t consider anything skim style, I hate to ride skim in chop.

[5:00]

We have a Hammerhead and more and more people are riding it on our boat and liking it. We are really only riding skim now and only have one surf style left but that is us.

[Chaos]

We were putting them in the aisle but found that once you have 4+ people in the boat it was cumbersome getting to the bow. We had planned to build a sleeve-bimini next season. This is the first time I've heard someone say you shouldn't use one. What are the reasons for not using a sleeve bimini? What are the alternatives? We typically have 3 boards on the boat.

Circling back to the bimini sleeves, etc. What Chris says is correct, the black denier of a bimini can bake a board. It hot climates it can bake a board so hot that it melts the foam. Delamination is often something different. You can get a delamination from melted foam, but it is more often caused by outgassing or really foam with too much air in it. Not all EPS is the same. There is good EPS and bad. As a safe guard in the past we use to always put in vents that allowed the board to equalize to an extent. Modern EPS made for surfboard manufacturing does not require this. I haven't had a board delaminate in years. That does not mean you cannot make it happen.

The best place to put them in my opinion is get some straps or a rack that go on top of the bimini, with some simple pads and use a board bag. The Board bag becomes your sleeve. You hook, strap or secure the board bag, then just shove the board in when not using it. A good board bag will keep your board looking new for years. A wet board sock also works in normal bimini sleeves to keep the board cool.

Nick

[trayson]

Circling back to the bimini sleeves, etc. What Chris says is correct, the black denier of a bimini can bake a board. It hot climates it can bake a board so hot that it melts the foam. Delamination is often something different. You can get a delamination from melted foam, but it is more often caused by outgassing or really foam with too much air in it. Not all EPS is the same. There is good EPS and bad. As a safe guard in the past we use to always put in vents that allowed the board to equalize to an extent. Modern EPS made for surfboard manufacturing does not require this. I haven't had a board delaminate in years. That does not mean you cannot make it happen.

The best place to put them in my opinion is get some straps or a rack that go on top of the bimini, with some simple pads and use a board bag. The Board bag becomes your sleeve. You hook, strap or secure the board bag, then just shove the board in when not using it. A good board bag will keep your board looking new for years. A wet board sock also works in normal bimini sleeves to keep the board cool.

Nick

Thanks for this info Nick. Really appreciate your insight.