View Full Version : Looking for "family" or "boat" board
NoleAlum
06-05-2017, 11:46 AM
Guys,
Daughter has outgrown her little Gromcast (literally) so looking for a board for her and for everyone else ("boat board") that she and everyone can progress , durable since it will get a lot of use and won't break the bank (asking too much??). Still dialing in my wave so looking for something that is pretty "fast" to help stay in the wave, gain speed for small tricks, etc. None of us are catching air at this point...
She likes the hybrid style so local shop suggested Liquid Force Primo and was also looking at Byerly Speedster and wanted to see if anyone had experience with either or another suggestion.
Thanks in advance and happy surfing.
Brandon
kaneboats
06-05-2017, 12:30 PM
We got a Victoria skim a couple years ago for our girls and they all ride it -- and nothing else-- now.
The Pixie in the Clearance sale going on right now is the closest thing to the one we have:
http://wakestore.victoriaskimboards.com/product-category/sale/
wolfeman131
06-05-2017, 12:32 PM
you can try to make something like a Phase 5 Model X (which is a hybrid board) work, but wakesurf boards are like shoes or snow skis, IMO. Everyone in your family can't wear/ski the same ones, can they? Sorry to spend your money, but progression won't happen w/out the right equipment.
Dandy21
06-05-2017, 12:59 PM
We have an older version of this board
http://www.slingshotsports.com/2017-Butter-Bar#.WTWNUFTyuUk
It is fairly fast, so it works well with smaller waves and newer people. It is very durable - we store it in one of the wakeboard racks and have had no issue.
Not sure if something like this is what you had in mind, but I thought I would pass it along.
sivs1
06-05-2017, 01:12 PM
I have two boat boards.
One is the O'Brien Alias 5'0" and the other is a Hyperlite Broadcast.
We use the O'Brien for bigger guys and the Hyperlite works great for the ladies.
Dandy21
06-05-2017, 01:18 PM
I have two boat boards.
One is the O'Brien Alias 5'0" and the other is a Hyperlite Broadcast.
We use the O'Brien for bigger guys and the Hyperlite works great for the ladies.
You will all hopefully find this funny. Just about every beginner board/boat board post I see, I find the Broadcast listed. It appears the guy at TheHouse.com finds it is more for advanced riders. I am not sure if he thinks he is that good or if the Hyperlite guys are now treating the Broadcast as an advanced board. Seems that A LOT of folks have learned to or taught people to wakesurf using this board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtYKxUM43I
sivs1
06-05-2017, 01:23 PM
You will all hopefully find this funny. Just about every beginner board/boat board post I see, I find the Broadcast listed. It appears the guy at TheHouse.com finds it is more for advanced riders. I am not sure if he thinks he is that good or if the Hyperlite guys are now treating the Broadcast as an advanced board. Seems that A LOT of folks have learned to or taught people to wakesurf using this board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtYKxUM43I
That's funny, never would have thought the Broadcast as being an Aggressive more Advanced Board. Big Fail on the part of The-House.
trayson
06-05-2017, 01:46 PM
You will all hopefully find this funny. Just about every beginner board/boat board post I see, I find the Broadcast listed. It appears the guy at TheHouse.com finds it is more for advanced riders. I am not sure if he thinks he is that good or if the Hyperlite guys are now treating the Broadcast as an advanced board. Seems that A LOT of folks have learned to or taught people to wakesurf using this board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFtYKxUM43I
After getting my first boat, I got my first board and it was a used Broadcast and even came with a surf rope thrown in, all for under $100 used. It got me surfing, that's for sure. And it was bombproof and fit in the wakeboard racks. And it got my wife surfing. But it was a dog otherwise. I sold it without telling her, LOL.
I have a 4'8" Ronix Caption (not made anymore) that is a dual fin. I modified it to be a tri-fin when the wife was learning, but then took out the center fin as she progressed. I got it on CL for literally $30! I was the quickest to contact the guy and scooped it up. It's actually fairly easy to flip, not too slow, and bombproof compression molded; so we keep it around and I'll probably have it forever as a 'boat board'.
I also have a 5'3" liquid force "fish" that is part of my foil board setup. because that "foil fish" is the exact same board as a regular fish, I now have a board I can take the foil off and throw the wakesurf fins on and have a boat board for the bigger riders as well. It's stable and slow, but for the bigger newbies, it'll fill a spot.
We have a few different boards on the boat but the one most people pull off the rack is the Byerly Volt. It is a really good all-around board. It is really controllable yet it can break out for some tricks. It is a good board to grow into and still be able to do some things without breaking the bank. It may be a bit difficult to learn on but it can be done.
The ONLY complaint I have about it is that for some decorative purpose they left a 2 inch wide "chevron" > shaped strip without any grip padding on it. Of course that is right where your front foot goes. It is smooth and just slippery enough that your foot can move the tiniest bit.
A friend of mine suggested skate board grip tape and I will be working on putting that on tonight or tomorrow night. I am just hoping it doesn't tear up the bottom of the feet.
There is a Slingshot as Dandy21 mentioned above on ebay for a $209 buy it now price including shipping. I just got a Phase 5 Hammerhead for a steal from them. It had just a few scuffs on it just as advertised but had never been ridden. I have never ridden the Slingshot myself but here it is. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Slingshot-Butter-Bar-Wakesurfer-56/252968654997
Agreed on the Broadcast. It was my first also that I got for next to nothing. You will outgrow it quickly but a great learner and transition board. I really I hadn't sold mine.
trayson
06-05-2017, 02:17 PM
The ONLY complaint I have about it is that for some decorative purpose they left a 2 inch wide "chevron" > shaped strip without any grip padding on it. Of course that is right where your front foot goes. It is smooth and just slippery enough that your foot can move the tiniest bit.
A friend of mine suggested skate board grip tape and I will be working on putting that on tonight or tomorrow night. I am just hoping it doesn't tear up the bottom of the feet.
I wouldn't use grip tape. Why not use some hydroturf. You can get some blem sheets or strips of it for cheap. Heck, get a whole sheet of it and do the Gunwale steps and a triangle on the bow like I did.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ffoq-8S7vk/VanEMPx84HI/AAAAAAAAZvk/X8mG_XMPVfwHqd86d2N40_ziPUlD6k6VwCCo/s800/20150717_195829.jpg
There might even be forum members that have some strips of it leftover from floor replacements that they'd give you for free. Just post up the dimensions and I bet you'd get a bite. Apply it to the board with either DAP contact cement or with some 3m spray adhesive.
kaneboats
06-05-2017, 02:46 PM
Hey, somebody's selling a Soulcraft board here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SoulCraft-WakeSurf-board-/112424845076?hash=item1a2d0aff14:g:k6QAAOSw~FJZJGK 0
I wouldn't use grip tape. Why not use some hydroturf. You can get some blem sheets or strips of it for cheap. Heck, get a whole sheet of it and do the Gunwale steps and a triangle on the bow like I did.
I thought about that for sure and I have a ton of it lying around with the projects I am doing. The problem is that the part without the grip is raised to top level of the turf that is already there. If I add turf it will raise those strips above the level of the rest if that makes sense. I would have been fine with stripping it all and starting over but then there would be those humps. It is fine down the middle of the board for foot placement but this goes at an angle on both sides. Strips would be kind of awkward and may peel off quicker. Also I would have to deal with the kickers which is even worse. Maybe board wax would be a better solution? Stuff just gets gunked up though. It's at the office today so I can make a template after work.
Great little board though so it is worth doing the mod.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/sirzappa/IMG_5885.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/sirzappa/IMG_5886.jpg
trayson
06-05-2017, 04:05 PM
What about something else that's still somewhat 'non slip' but thinner? I've seen some peel and stick diamond plate rubber that isn't that thick. Or even put some of the non-skid shelf lining stuff on there? No way I'd do wax, but that's me.
wolfeman131
06-05-2017, 05:09 PM
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aggietb
06-05-2017, 09:26 PM
What fin set up do you ride on the volt??
jmvotto
06-05-2017, 10:09 PM
I thought about that for sure and I have a ton of it lying around with the projects I am doing. The problem is that the part without the grip is raised to top level of the turf that is already there. If I add turf it will raise those strips above the level of the rest if that makes sense. I would have been fine with stripping it all and starting over but then there would be those humps. It is fine down the middle of the board for foot placement but this goes at an angle on both sides. Strips would be kind of awkward and may peel off quicker. Also I would have to deal with the kickers which is even worse. Maybe board wax would be a better solution? Stuff just gets gunked up though. It's at the office today so I can make a template after work.
Great little board though so it is worth doing the mod.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/sirzappa/IMG_5885.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb280/sirzappa/IMG_5886.jpg
Get some viskus pad and cut to chevron shape .thin wax alternative. Should be perfect
https://www.viskus.com/product-category/surf-grip/
What fin set up do you ride on the volt??
Whatever it came with. I got it used but it has just two fins.
Get some viskus pad and cut to chevron shape .thin wax alternative. Should be perfect
https://www.viskus.com/product-category/surf-grip/
Wow this looks really good. I e-mailed them to check the thickness but it looks really thin. One piece would last forever. I made a perfect template for it last night but after reading Trason's comment I am holding off on applying the skate board grip. I am worried it is going to tear someone's toe up.
wolfeman131
06-06-2017, 01:30 PM
I'll check my basement to see if I have an old piece of viskus in the basement that I can bring to you at the Lake Anna comp in a few wks.
That might work! I am hoping to be there on the 23rd. Jordan can use my Volt in the competition ;) well unless she wants to win.
I just noticed the pic of you riding out into the sunset Wolf :(
wolfeman131
06-06-2017, 02:23 PM
That might work! I am hoping to be there on the 23rd. Jordan can use my Volt in the competition ;) well unless she wants to win.
THANKS for the offer, but she may want to go with her regular stick . . .
Hope you can make it out top the event again this year. I'd like to see the XLV upgrades as it's looking great in the pics.
I think Chris Muehl is planning to come down as well, so you can get a look at his boards. They're very nice!
I just noticed the pic of you riding out into the sunset Wolf :(
I'll check in now & then.
Good on all. I will PM you my number. Hoping to make it.
muehlcj
06-06-2017, 08:09 PM
I'll be there!!! All registered as a vendor so stop by the tent and check the boards. Have some cool new boards to display.
I'll be there!!! All registered as a vendor so stop by the tent and check the boards. Have some cool new boards to display.
Which tent? I will try to stop on by.
I'll check my basement to see if I have an old piece of viskus in the basement that I can bring to you at the Lake Anna comp in a few wks.
The guys at Viskus answered me back and it sounds perfect. I went ahead and ordered some so I can get it on the board.
wolfeman131
06-07-2017, 12:45 PM
If their SOP hasn't changed, you'll get it from me weeks before them. It was the major reason we stopped using the product.
Wow that doesn't sound very good. Cutting their own nose off. It sounded like they make it to order. He said he can make it as thin as needed but standard was fine for me.
muehlcj
06-07-2017, 04:44 PM
Wow that doesn't sound very good. Cutting their own nose off. It sounded like they make it to order. He said he can make it as thin as needed but standard was fine for me.
x 2 on what drew said.
Try Shannon at nuff grip (ex viskus guy) www.nuffgrip.com. Similar but different product. If you e-mail and don't hear from him let me know I'll shoot him text.
muehlcj
06-07-2017, 04:48 PM
Which tent? I will try to stop on by.
This one:
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/muehlcj/ED72E9AE-A665-4EF9-9ADD-DA08B7B3D876_zpstpwzo8qn.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/muehlcj/media/ED72E9AE-A665-4EF9-9ADD-DA08B7B3D876_zpstpwzo8qn.jpg.html)
Will etch it into the memory.
If their SOP hasn't changed, you'll get it from me weeks before them. It was the major reason we stopped using the product.
They just sent me a tracking number. Maybe they have changed their business practice? It was just stock material so maybe it was on hand or they are stocking things now? I should have it in a few days.
wolfeman131
06-13-2017, 12:58 PM
good news for you & them!
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