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Cody
04-27-2017, 08:29 AM
Has anybody got the underwater LED's as an option from the factory? Do you get your choice of color or is it a standard color? Pictures are appreciated.

Low lights would be nice to see as well.

Thanks in advance

dusty2221
04-27-2017, 09:03 AM
They are blue.

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KG's Supra24
04-27-2017, 09:25 AM
2016 factory underwaters ....

In Arkansas water ;)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170427/2c55b2d99b365ce209936320cecfefe5.jpg

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dusty2221
04-27-2017, 10:03 AM
Show it to them in murkey water

KG's Supra24
04-27-2017, 10:11 AM
Nope, can't do it.

Cody
04-27-2017, 11:15 AM
Yeah, we need to see it in the murk like Trinity.

smorris7
04-27-2017, 11:41 AM
Yeah, we need to see it in the murk like Trinity.

You can't even see your feet standing on the platform in the T!


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Stazi
04-27-2017, 01:28 PM
I was looking at my 2017 Craz the other day, and it appears that all the new boats must be pre-wired from the factory for underwater lights. One of the accessory switches on the dash has a blue wire with a green stripe, I traced this wire all the way back to the transom (tucked in up and to the right -way up) and there is a butt connector there, along with a black negative also with a butt connector. So you can hook up one of those drain plug LED lights. I have one on order, so it should be simple to install and crimp to the existing butt connectors.
PS there is also a breaker under the dash for underwater lights that is 3A

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KG's Supra24
04-27-2017, 01:31 PM
Yes, i think they have been prewired for several years now.

Is the wakeplate not going to be in the way of the drain plug light?

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Stazi
04-27-2017, 01:33 PM
Good thing you asked. The first one I bought had a massive head on it, and I could not screw it in, because it interfered with the wake plate. So I have ordered another one that is a smaller diameter similar to the size of the factory drain plug. So if you're going to order one that's what you want to look for. I can send you a link if you would like to show you the one I got


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That Guy
04-27-2017, 02:20 PM
Link please. I had one in my last boat but know that one wouldn't work on my new Craz

Stazi
04-27-2017, 02:38 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-LED-BOAT-PLUG-LIGHT-GARBOARD-BRASS-DRAIN-1-2-quot-NPT-MARINE-UNDERWATER-FISH-/121532633645?txnId=1782738015002


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BrettLee3232
04-27-2017, 03:06 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-LED-BOAT-PLUG-LIGHT-GARBOARD-BRASS-DRAIN-1-2-quot-NPT-MARINE-UNDERWATER-FISH-/121532633645?txnId=1782738015002


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My lake you can't tow with the drain plug in unless you want a ticket. I wonder where I could put it while towing so I don't loose it or scratch the shit out of my wake plate.

Although $13 doesn't sound like it's going to be very bright lol


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Stazi
04-27-2017, 03:37 PM
The other one I bought for $20 was super bright. It wouldn't fit as it interfered with the wakeplate. Brett, why would you have to remove it while towing? Just dont turn it on. Plus can you tow at night anyway?


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BrettLee3232
04-27-2017, 03:39 PM
The other one I bought for $20 was super bright. It wouldn't fit as it interfered with the wakeplate. Brett, why would you have to remove it while towing? Just dont turn it on. Plus can you tow at night anyway?


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Towing on the trailer. My lake has a muscle issue so they want your boat completely dry if your towing to another lake.


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Stazi
04-27-2017, 04:02 PM
All of these lights have a quick disconnect so that you can remove them easily
ETA: Looks like this second one I bought doesn't have the quick disconnect like the first one.

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trayson
04-27-2017, 04:03 PM
If I did another drain plug light, I was going to install a quick electrical disconnect. (although that was going to prove tricky because I don't know if I would have been able to find a waterproof quick disconnect that would actually fit through the drain plug hole.)

That said, I stopped that project and put my regular drain plug back in because while I was messing around with the drain plug light I dropped it on the garage concrete floor and cracked the epoxy... FML.

I'm still trying to figure out what my ultimate solution will be... I've got a bunch of those 6w LED lights, but I still haven't figured out a solution for installing 8 of them without drilling 3 holes for each of them (wire, and two mounting screws).

That Guy
04-27-2017, 04:06 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-LED-BOAT-PLUG-LIGHT-GARBOARD-BRASS-DRAIN-1-2-quot-NPT-MARINE-UNDERWATER-FISH-/121532633645?txnId=1782738015002


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Thanks. You're positive this fits without issue on the Craz?

Stazi
04-27-2017, 04:07 PM
This is the one I bought first. It has a quick disconnect but doesn't fit.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/121611407352



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Stazi
04-27-2017, 04:09 PM
This might be the ticket, but I am weary about galvanic corrosion between the chrome and bronze on the hull fitting.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/171434177333



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Stazi
04-27-2017, 04:13 PM
Thanks. You're positive this fits without issue on the Craz?

I't should. The first one I bought was twice the diameter, where the actual light was, and I could almost get it to fit. This one is the same diameter as the thread, or close enough to it that I don't think there will be any issue. If you want you can wait till I receive mine and complete the guinea pig process.


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BrettLee3232
04-27-2017, 04:15 PM
Since these are so cheap I wonder if it would be best to get one of those 3 way Plugs?

Drop your wake plate and thread it on, put a drain light on each side and keep the middle one as the drain?


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BrettLee3232
04-27-2017, 04:18 PM
Like this, except use the center for drain (since no quick disconnect)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170427/f038c9f35c20c859c06318e72901255c.png


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Stazi
04-27-2017, 05:15 PM
Can't. The hinge extends past the bottom edge of the boat. That's what interferes. Not the plate itself.


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Prospersigman
04-28-2017, 09:36 AM
[QUOTE=Stazi;305367]This might be the ticket, but I am weary about galvanic corrosion between the chrome and bronze on the hull fitting.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/171434177333

Did he just say..."galvanic corrosion"? ;)

Stazi
04-28-2017, 01:12 PM
Sorry. I'm an engineer by trade


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That Guy
04-28-2017, 08:05 PM
I't should. The first one I bought was twice the diameter, where the actual light was, and I could almost get it to fit. This one is the same diameter as the thread, or close enough to it that I don't think there will be any issue. If you want you can wait till I receive mine and complete the guinea pig process.


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Yes I'll wait! Haha please post up a review and pictures when you get it in!

snyderaaron
04-28-2017, 08:15 PM
Following this thread to see how bright it is and if its worth it.

Stazi
04-28-2017, 08:59 PM
Still waiting for it to show up.


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Stazi
05-02-2017, 07:21 PM
Got the light and installed it. Was pretty easy to do. No pics of it in the water as the weather has been shit in MI the last few days.


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BrettLee3232
05-02-2017, 07:23 PM
Got the light and installed it. Was pretty easy to do. No pics of it in the water as the weather has been shit in MI the last few days.


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Garage pics?


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Stazi
05-02-2017, 07:26 PM
On da hoist brah! And now I'm in STL. Thursday....


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BrettLee3232
05-02-2017, 07:26 PM
On da hoist brah! And now I'm in STL. Thursday....


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Fml


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Stazi
05-02-2017, 07:28 PM
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snyderaaron
05-14-2017, 10:40 AM
Any updates here?


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Stazi
05-14-2017, 11:05 AM
I have yet to take my boat out in the evening to take pics. Maybe tonight!


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dusty2221
05-14-2017, 11:40 AM
I took these last night, I'm in the driver seat just holding my arm over, our water visability is very minimal...these things blow us away everytime. Can't wait to get in some good clear water.



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Stazi
05-27-2017, 10:41 PM
Here's my underwater light, finally.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170528/6e1a6f7b7a5bbe66557fec751ad2aafb.jpg


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trayson
05-27-2017, 11:29 PM
Here's my underwater light, finally.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170528/6e1a6f7b7a5bbe66557fec751ad2aafb.jpg


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Ouch. That's not as much as I'd hope for. My lights are 6w each and I have 6 of them. Here's my output.
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/0519172114a_HDR_zpsd4tfbucy.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/0519172114_HDR_zpsbloeiw6p.jpg

I have 4 pointed back and 1 pointed to each side. I like the dispersion.

I'll be suplimenting it with a 20w drain plug light...

It's certainty not anywhere close to a shadow caster, but pretty good for what it is.

Stazi
05-28-2017, 08:20 AM
Yeah the original drain plug light I bought would have been way brighter, but lie I said before, it can't be screwed in due to the wakeplate. Yours looks great Trayson.


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ian ashton
05-28-2017, 08:54 AM
I have a ShadowCaster SCM10CC,a little spendy, but I got t open-box on eBay for a steal. I have it mounted on the end of my trim tab;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ww6bzxdhlc52tyz/Photo%20May%2028%2C%208%2050%2010%20AM.jpg?dl=1

I have yet to find a smaller LED or fixture with fewer LEDs that is as bright. Whatever the chips in this thing are, are bright.

KG's Supra24
06-19-2017, 03:44 PM
They are blurry, but they give an idea of factory underwater vs aftermarket

http://i.imgur.com/wkrA8Cz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BQhvtmc.jpg

Prospersigman
06-19-2017, 04:00 PM
Damn that water looks shallow behind Ian's boat...how deep is it there 2'?

russellsmojo
06-19-2017, 04:15 PM
They are blurry, but they give an idea of factory underwater vs aftermarket

http://i.imgur.com/wkrA8Cz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BQhvtmc.jpg

Cool pictures!


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BrettLee3232
06-21-2017, 02:50 AM
Found this gem on Facebook ads tonight.

New product from boat plug light. 2 versions, 1 light & 2 light. Not bad if it will work, I think it would because your replacing the entire housing.

Thoughts?

https://www.boatpluglight.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-loki-2400-lumen-drain-light

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/9286a1fa8e1a33adf6faa9869eddd90d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/88bc5d3040523880d95bcf656e4d108c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/a94cecbe2ddaae44ef4204f73bdcb58b.jpg


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Stazi
06-21-2017, 10:20 AM
So this requires removal of the brass drain housing and takes it's place? May work if the OD of the "Mickey Mouse" head is no larger than the original brass piece.


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SorryCharlie
06-21-2017, 10:34 AM
Those look great Bret, at a reasonable price, are you going to get them?

BrettLee3232
06-21-2017, 10:59 AM
So this requires removal of the brass drain housing and takes it's place? May work if the OD of the "Mickey Mouse" head is no larger than the original brass piece.


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They say it fits every boat. Even the holes line up 🤷🏼*♂️


Those look great Bret, at a reasonable price, are you going to get them?

Maybe, not right now though.


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Cody
06-21-2017, 11:23 AM
I'm considering ordering one... will this get in the way of the plate?

KG's Supra24
06-21-2017, 11:25 AM
Doubles as a fidget spinner.

Cody
06-21-2017, 11:32 AM
25807

Found their inspiration

Stazi
06-21-2017, 11:42 AM
Not sure it would fit the Craz. It may be too thick. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/006931942e1063a3f5466e41d1b23030.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/59d9c54143ce9eddf19ec2fd3a884742.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/6a4f700e82842338d3e2b721811d07d5.jpg


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iwannagofast
08-17-2017, 08:28 AM
Found this gem on Facebook ads tonight.

New product from boat plug light. 2 versions, 1 light & 2 light. Not bad if it will work, I think it would because your replacing the entire housing.

Thoughts?

https://www.boatpluglight.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-loki-2400-lumen-drain-light

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/9286a1fa8e1a33adf6faa9869eddd90d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/88bc5d3040523880d95bcf656e4d108c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170621/a94cecbe2ddaae44ef4204f73bdcb58b.jpg


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Anyone give this one a shot yet?

eusst1
05-08-2018, 05:06 PM
any luck with this yet?

iwannagofast
05-09-2018, 08:35 AM
any luck with this yet?

Ended up going with the Titan 2. Go big or go home right?!

https://boatpluglight.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-titan-2-drain-flange-light-16-000-lumens

Had to shave off a portion of the body to make it clear the wakeplate similar to Stazi in this post.

Underwater LED install
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=27865&share_tid=31350&share_pid=324469&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum%2Emoomba%2Ecom%2Fshowpost% 2Ephp%3Fp%3D324469&share_type=t


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Stazi
05-09-2018, 05:12 PM
Ended up going with the Titan 2. Go big or go home right?!

https://boatpluglight.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-titan-2-drain-flange-light-16-000-lumens

Had to shave off a portion of the body to make it clear the wakeplate similar to Stazi in this post.

Underwater LED install
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=27865&share_tid=31350&share_pid=324469&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum%2Emoomba%2Ecom%2Fshowpost% 2Ephp%3Fp%3D324469&share_type=t


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Dang that Titan 2 is definitely made for Deadmau5 fans! [emoji23]


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iwannagofast
05-09-2018, 05:21 PM
Dang that Titan 2 is definitely made for Deadmau5 fans! [emoji23]


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[emoji6] with the Titan 2 and RGBs in my Rev10s itís definitely a light show lol

Plan on stepping it up one more notch and running RGBs around the whole boat above the cup holders this weekend or next.

Iíll post some pics and videos once everything is complete [emoji1362]


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Broke Pilot
05-09-2018, 10:37 PM
I definitely admire you guys who have the patience to run all that RGB wire around your boat. I’d shoot myself. I love the way it looks, some of Dusty’s installs are nuts with the zone control. Glad my new boat came pre-lit! Lol

clad
04-11-2019, 09:12 AM
Did you get the Titan installed? I would be interested in some pics and thoughts if you can share. I have been looking at the same install.

rdlangston13
04-11-2019, 11:28 AM
I was looking at my 2017 Craz the other day, and it appears that all the new boats must be pre-wired from the factory for underwater lights. One of the accessory switches on the dash has a blue wire with a green stripe, I traced this wire all the way back to the transom (tucked in up and to the right -way up) and there is a butt connector there, along with a black negative also with a butt connector. So you can hook up one of those drain plug LED lights. I have one on order, so it should be simple to install and crimp to the existing butt connectors.
PS there is also a breaker under the dash for underwater lights that is 3A

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Guess I am going to have to run my own wiring then if it is only set up for 3 amps. I am looking at getting two SeaBlaze X's in blue and they pull 5 amps each. Plan to have them in by the 4th of July.

rdlangston13
04-13-2019, 08:22 AM
Does anyone know what the amp rating is for the dash switches? Would they be able to run 10 amp without a relay?

rdlangston13
05-08-2019, 02:53 PM
So I opted for the Lumitec Seablaze X2 Full Spectrum lights. Got them on the back of the boat, just need to wire them up and test them out. Advertised at 6000 lumens each...should be adequate for our swamp water.

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z28ke
05-08-2019, 08:03 PM
Nice install, be sure to post some pics of them in action!

rdlangston13
05-13-2019, 07:23 PM
Got them wired up and on. Now all thatís left is Lake testing. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190513/7c7c09fd9d35324f796ea192751987d2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190513/0729b115bd3fee01a073d692246dd0bd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190513/90777adde393623951d92ee315bf4ff7.jpg


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jph3
10-13-2019, 01:39 PM
Iíll have to find the link from the forum, but someone mentioned a $40 amazon boat plug light... I wired it to my courtesy lights and am impressed so far!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/447b55dea05d1519bacbd926c2552cf8.jpg


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spatty99
10-17-2019, 05:09 PM
I installed the "Firewatermarine Super Delux 10 WATT Garboard Brass Boat Plug Light 1000-1200 LUMENS", $25 at amazon. The light doesn't blow you away, but it's great for the price. I did have to put a bunch of pipe tape on the threads to keep the plug from bottoming out though (either plug too short, or threads dia too small), so probably not ideal if you have to pull the plug often. Install was a quick crimp, since power was already there. The stock (2017 Helix) toggle switch for underwater lights is 3 amps. You could run higher amperage lights off the heater toggle (15 amps) or docking lights (10 amps).