Craze Surfing Setup

[MMPRES]

So I'm having some issues with push on my wave.

I'm a heavier guy (5'8" 270). I understand the physics that in order to achieve optimal push and a larger sweet spot, I need to weight the boat more than others might to achieve results for myself; which I feel I have sufficiently done. My current setup is a 16 Craz with 900's in the tail, stock center tank and overflow 650 in the nose and whatever bodies are in the boat are sitting on port side as far back as possible. I usually fill the tail and go anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3 full in the nose. I only surf regular right now because I know that if I can barely do so on the port side, I know the prop wash will make it impossible on the starboard side. I have played with the surf left setting anywhere from 45-60% and the sweet spot is basically at the beginning of the wave (within the 3' where the flow V's together). At this point, I don't plan on upgrading the rear bags at this point (which logically would be the easy solution), but not in the budget right now. However, I am considering assembling a suck gate as it appears to be an improvement for most and more cost effective. I've dug through multiple forums, but haven't really gotten a consensus as to whether or not push was improved or if it just provided a shape difference.

So with all that being said, what are your surf tab settings for you Craz owners?

Is there an improvement in the sweet spot with the suck gate?
For those of you that have one, do you still use your surf tabs as well?

Thanks in advance everyone.

[mattsask]

Where is your trim tab set? That will definitely have an impact on push. The further up it is, the more push your wave will have, but you will sacrifice length. I ran 1100's all last summer, which probably only fill to 900. We have a couple guys your size in the crew that surf no problem on small boards. For regular riders I run surf tab at 65%, trim tab 1/2- all the way up, all ballast 100% full, plus an extra 250-300 in nose. If I have a small crew, I put a 600 lb bag on the floor in the back. Wave is long and tall.

[mattsask]

So I'm having some issues with push on my wave.

I'm a heavier guy (5'8" 270). I understand the physics that in order to achieve optimal push and a larger sweet spot, I need to weight the boat more than others might to achieve results for myself; which I feel I have sufficiently done. My current setup is a 16 Craz with 900's in the tail, stock center tank and overflow 650 in the nose and whatever bodies are in the boat are sitting on port side as far back as possible. I usually fill the tail and go anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3 full in the nose. I only surf regular right now because I know that if I can barely do so on the port side, I know the prop wash will make it impossible on the starboard side. I have played with the surf left setting anywhere from 45-60% and the sweet spot is basically at the beginning of the wave (within the 3' where the flow V's together). At this point, I don't plan on upgrading the rear bags at this point (which logically would be the easy solution), but not in the budget right now. However, I am considering assembling a suck gate as it appears to be an improvement for most and more cost effective. I've dug through multiple forums, but haven't really gotten a consensus as to whether or not push was improved or if it just provided a shape difference.

So with all that being said, what are your surf tab settings for you Craz owners?

Is there an improvement in the sweet spot with the suck gate?
For those of you that have one, do you still use your surf tabs as well?

Thanks in advance everyone.
I tried a suck gate on its own and with the surf tabs. Wave was pretty much the same, rpm's were 200+ higher though.

[That Guy]

I've got my eye on this thread, getting ready to drop my new Craz in for the first time next weekend and I'm ready to surf!

[wario]

How much surfing have you done in the past and what board are riding?

[MMPRES]

How much surfing have you done in the past and what board are riding?

I'll admit I don't have the best equipment, but technique is not the problem for me. It's a HL Broadcast 59". It may be I'm not running enough on the surf tab. Trim tab is usually all the way up. Still dialing it in I guess. I'm still going to probably build the suck gate, because we don't always have a large crew and would like any cost effective advantage I'll take it. So I'll try out something close to above and see what happens. If I can get some pics, you'll see them.

[That Guy]

I'll be honest I'm not a fan of the broadcast. In fact I thought the wave on my last boat sucked when I had that board, bought a new board and it's night and day difference. My .02

[mattsask]

I'll be honest I'm not a fan of the broadcast. In fact I thought the wave on my last boat sucked when I had that board, bought a new board and it's night and day difference. My .02
True story. It's slow and unresponsive. His settings seem to be close. First thing I would do is ditch the broadcast.

OP. How fast are you running? Have you confirmed speedo calibration with gps?

[lsupcar]

Have you tried listing the boat?

[MMPRES]

Have you tried listing the boat?

Bingo! That was my problem. Put together a successful surf set yesterday. I messed with it this weekend and that's where I was lacking. Full on surf side and 1/2-2/3 off side. I accidentally forgot to flip the surf tab on (so theoretically it would only improve from this point), but had enough weight in the boat with 4 adults on surf side that it cleaned it up and had great push. So I think from now on, I'll just need to really focus on listing the boat so there's as much running surface on the hull on surf side. With it being evenly weighted as before, and relying on the tab to list the boat, that's where I went wrong.

I know my broadcast sucks, I'll upgrade it eventually. But to be able to surf as is makes me happy enough. I really just do it as a reprieve in rough conditions waiting for my next wakeboard set. Not really looking to get competitive or anything.