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[MMPRES]

So made it out for the inaugural trip to the lake yesterday (air 85 water 65). I wasn't able to wakeboard as I would have liked because I recently sold my setup and am waiting on the new replacement. I was, however, able to take a surf set and have progressively over the last few seasons come to the realization that I need a new board. I have a 2008-09 Hyperlite Broadcast 59". So I'm looking at a replacement. I should preface this by saying I've had a little experience with other boards (Ronix Coal and HL Coex-little brother of the broadcast) so I have a little understanding of the surfboard/skimboard feel under your feet and would like to find the happy medium.
I have a direct connection with the regional Hyperlite rep, so will definitely be buying (when I do) a Hyperlite or Ronix surfboard. I have the current Hyperlite catalog so that's where my focus has been lately. I think I've narrowed it down to the Hyperlite Time Machine or Quad. The rep says he prefers the Time Machine. Since I don't have the capability to demo them myself and figure out the difference, I'm reaching out to my fellow Moomba enthusiasts. Has anyone had a chance to ride either, both? How would they feel comparatively to the broadcast? What are the differences between the two in how they ride?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[smorris7]

Stay away from both. Go custom and never look back. Doomswell or Soulcraft. You will be glad you did as there is a night and day difference from mass production stamped boards to a hand shaped board. Really not much difference in price either. I have ridden all of the above boards and there is no comparison. Indy car vs a Kia.


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[MMPRES]

I appreciate the advice. Sounds good in theory, but in practice? Not really. I can essentially get the boards at cost, so the money's not the same. And I don't take it that seriously. Just looking for a new rip stick that would be an improvement from what I have.

[wolfeman131]

Go with the quad

[mattsask]

Smorris7 was not kidding you. There is a whole other dimension of wakesurfing that you are not experiencing on the boards you mentioned. You really are selling yourself short. If you absolutely need an off the shelf board, go phase 5, but stay away from hyperlite and ronix. I rode a coex for years, and my mind was blown when I went to a board demo last summer. It is worth a few hundred extra dollars for a good board.

[jtatexc]

Smorris7 was not kidding you. There is a whole other dimension of wakesurfing that you are not experiencing on the boards you mentioned. You really are selling yourself short. If you absolutely need an off the shelf board, go phase 5, but stay away from hyperlite and ronix. I rode a coex for years, and my mind was blown when I went to a board demo last summer. It is worth a few hundred extra dollars for a good board.
Matt speaks truth. I have had 10 or 12 boards and currently 4 in my quiver. My favorite hands down is my doomswell. Straight quality and hands down better than my other boards. But I also have a phase5 wire and Danielo diamond and a hyperlite hi-fi and they all ride dramatically different. A custom board is just going to ride better and worth the couple/few hundred bucks more in my opinion. You get so much more out of the ride. I rode the quad and it was at best "fine" having rode dozens of others. It got the job done but to me was kinda a canoe. There is a reason people talk passionately about boards because they have felt the difference a good one makes.

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[Stazi]

Personally I think the Ronix Koal is pretty slow. I have one. I prefer the speed of a skim style board myself.


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[trayson]

Matt speaks truth. I have had 10 or 12 boards and currently 4 in my quiver. My favorite hands down is my doomswell. Straight quality and hands down better than my other boards. But I also have a phase5 wire and Danielo diamond and a hyperlite hi-fi and they all ride dramatically different. A custom board is just going to ride better and worth the couple/few hundred bucks more in my opinion. You get so much more out of the ride. I rode the quad and it was at best "fine" having rode dozens of others. It got the job done but to me was kinda a canoe. There is a reason people talk passionately about boards because they have felt the difference a good one makes.

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I found a list of boards that I rode in my first couple seasons. Back then I would try anything I could get my hands on. Once I got my Doomswell Nubstep, I stopped trying other boards. I had little desire to ride anything other than my Nubstep.

Hyperlite Broadcast 4'9 - sold
Hyperlite Broadcast 5'4 - demo
Liquid Force Fish 5'6 - sold
O'Brien Alias 5'0" - friend's
Liquid Force Fish 5'0 - friend's
React 4’9” - friend's
Ronix Caption 4'8 - still have, boat board
Ronix Koal Illuminati 5'0 - sold
Inland Surfer Squirt 5’0 - friend's
Wavezone Boost 3'9" - friend's, and he sold it
React 5’0” - friend's
Byerly Buzz 4'8" - demo
Ronix Parks Carbon Thruster 5'1" - demo
Soulcraft Jetty 5’0 - friend's
Liquid Force Custom Quad 4'8" - friend's
Liquid Force TC Custom Skim 4’4” - friend's
Doomswell Drone Squashtail 4'4" - friend's
Soulcraft Da Honu 4’8” - friends
Brigade Radical 4'10 - friend's
Ronix Parks Carbon Thruster 4’7” - friend's
React 3’11” - friend's
Ronix One Carbon Skimmer 4’4” - friend's
Ronix One Skimmer 4’10” - own, another boat board
Doomswell Nubstep 4’6” - Purchased new and will have forever. My go to surf style.
Lakewakes Flying Saucer skim 4’5” - Friend's board, our go-to skim
Area 51 Custom 4'8"
Lakewakes Custom 4'6"
Doomswell Sparkplug 4'4" (wife's board)


Many of us feel about boards the way car enthusiasts feel about cars. Sure any car will function as "basic transportation" to get you from A to B, but even if I had a connection to a Kia or Hyundai dealer to get cars at cost, I'd still drive my BMW M3 in the summer and my Audi S6 in the winter. Because to me, a car is more than basic transportation. Obviously you're asking a passionate crowd of board enthusiasts for advice.

If I was told to choose any three hyperlight or ronix boards, and that I'd get them for FREE on the condition that I retired my Doomswell Nubstep, I'd tell them to keep their free boards.



That said, Wolfeman has access to some crazy amazing quality boards and has ridden a ton of top end stuff, so if he says go for the Quad out of the choices you laid out, I'd respect that.

[kaneboats]

No Phase5 boards on that list? Might have to try one out this summer and round out your experience.

[trayson]

No Phase5 boards on that list? Might have to try one out this summer and round out your experience.

I forgot, I ride my son's scamp! LOL!

[parrothd]

No Phase5 boards on that list? Might have to try one out this summer and round out your experience.

Man, I love my Phase5 Matrix, can't be beat....

One thing I learned this summer is fin setup it key, can make or break a board. I'm down to riding the smallest available and moving towards none.. :)

[wario]

It's awesome that your friend is a rep and you can buy at cost, now go buy a doomswell at retail and be happier in the long run.

[trayson]

There's still some blem Doomswell's left for $400. that's a great price. I got my wife a "blem" sparkplug and I still don't know what technically makes it a blem because it's in great shape.

https://www.doomswell.com/collections/wake-surf-boards/blemish

The drone is super fun. I've ridden one of those and would be just as happy with a drone as a nubstep. The wife has a sparkplug and it's a little pocket-rocket. really quick and fun to ride as well.

[smorris7]

It's awesome that your friend is a rep and you can buy at cost, now go buy a doomswell at retail and be happier in the long run.

What's the saying? You can lead a horse to water......

Why even ask if your you have already made up your mind. You will spend more in the long run! Buy once.


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[markthered]

There's still some blem Doomswell's left for $400. that's a great price. I got my wife a "blem" sparkplug and I still don't know what technically makes it a blem because it's in great shape.

https://www.doomswell.com/collections/wake-surf-boards/blemish

The drone is super fun. I've ridden one of those and would be just as happy with a drone as a nubstep. The wife has a sparkplug and it's a little pocket-rocket. really quick and fun to ride as well.

I bought a blem last fall, and I live close enough to the Doomswell shop so I just went and picked it up. I asked what made mine a blem (it's a Nubstep, btw), and they said that they had inadvertently left out the chemicals that keep the board from yellowing for a batch of baords, that's it. Purely cosmetic, and my board has yellowed a bit, but I can slap stickers on it or just deal with it, I'm fine with it. When I get on it, it's well worth the small blemish! My only regret was that they didn't have any blem bamboo at the time, because those are beautiful boards.

[wario]

What's the saying? You can lead a horse to water......

Why even ask if your you have already made up your mind. You will spend more in the long run! Buy once.


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I post in threads like this so I can do my best Keith I told you so impression.

Saturday is going to be perfect, y'all going out?

[jmvotto]

I found a list of boards that I rode in my first couple seasons. Back then I would try anything I could get my hands on. Once I got my Doomswell Nubstep, I stopped trying other boards. I had little desire to ride anything other than my Nubstep.

Hyperlite Broadcast 4'9 - sold
Hyperlite Broadcast 5'4 - demo
Liquid Force Fish 5'6 - sold
O'Brien Alias 5'0" - friend's
Liquid Force Fish 5'0 - friend's
React 4’9” - friend's
Ronix Caption 4'8 - still have, boat board
Ronix Koal Illuminati 5'0 - sold
Inland Surfer Squirt 5’0 - friend's
Wavezone Boost 3'9" - friend's, and he sold it
React 5’0” - friend's
Byerly Buzz 4'8" - demo
Ronix Parks Carbon Thruster 5'1" - demo
Soulcraft Jetty 5’0 - friend's
Liquid Force Custom Quad 4'8" - friend's
Liquid Force TC Custom Skim 4’4” - friend's
Doomswell Drone Squashtail 4'4" - friend's
Soulcraft Da Honu 4’8” - friends
Brigade Radical 4'10 - friend's
Ronix Parks Carbon Thruster 4’7” - friend's
React 3’11” - friend's
Ronix One Carbon Skimmer 4’4” - friend's
Ronix One Skimmer 4’10” - own, another boat board
Doomswell Nubstep 4’6” - Purchased new and will have forever. My go to surf style.
Lakewakes Flying Saucer skim 4’5” - Friend's board, our go-to skim
Area 51 Custom 4'8"
Lakewakes Custom 4'6"
Doomswell Sparkplug 4'4" (wife's board)


Many of us feel about boards the way car enthusiasts feel about cars. Sure any car will function as "basic transportation" to get you from A to B, but even if I had a connection to a Kia or Hyundai dealer to get cars at cost, I'd still drive my BMW M3 in the summer and my Audi S6 in the winter. Because to me, a car is more than basic transportation. Obviously you're asking a passionate crowd of board enthusiasts for advice.

If I was told to choose any three hyperlight or ronix boards, and that I'd get them for FREE on the condition that I retired my Doomswell Nubstep, I'd tell them to keep their free boards.



That said, Wolfeman has access to some crazy amazing quality boards and has ridden a ton of top end stuff, so if he says go for the Quad out of the choices you laid out, I'd respect that.

Damn Trayson , you got a running tally on a spreadsheet or you got crazy memory skills. I agree custom all the way. If not get your deal on the quad and have fun !!

[trayson]

Damn Trayson , you got a running tally on a spreadsheet or you got crazy memory skills. I agree custom all the way. If not get your deal on the quad and have fun !!

Well, one day I retraced my list of boards after I'd ridden about 2 seasons. and I wrote it down. (I just cut and pasted that list that I'd posted before and added the last couple).

[Connolly_Crew]

Go with the quad

I would listen to this guy!


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[JasonInAustin]

Learned on a CWB board, so it has a special place in my heart. Bought a Liquid Force *Machine" last summer and though it's great, I just got a Doomswell Neo bamboo, and I'll probably only buy Doomswell from now on, it's amazing.

[Jjdyn0mite]

I bought the drone blem for $400. What a deal, thanks for the heads up. I opened it up yesterday and couldn't find any significant problems with it, can't wait to go out on it!

[trayson]

I bought the drone blem for $400. What a deal, thanks for the heads up. I opened it up yesterday and couldn't find any significant problems with it, can't wait to go out on it!

My understanding is that they had a batch where they didn't put in enough UV inhibitor, so the "blem" boards might be more subject to yellowing over time.

I got my wife a blem spark plug, so we'll make sure that it isn't in the sun all day. :-)

[Jjdyn0mite]

For that price, I'll take a little yellowing. I couldn't find a decent used board in that price range and I've been hearing good things about Doomswell. I like the shape, have to see how it rides.

[trayson]

For that price, I'll take a little yellowing. I couldn't find a decent used board in that price range and I've been hearing good things about Doomswell. I like the shape, have to see how it rides.

You won't be disappointed. it's fast and if you only run it with the two big fins, it loves to be kicked out sideways. :-)

[jmvotto]

For that price, I'll take a little yellowing. I couldn't find a decent used board in that price range and I've been hearing good things about Doomswell. I like the shape, have to see how it rides.

I love mine , Trayvon is right It's fast and with the big fins only it will break lose and spin this was my favorite board til my buddy on this forum made me a custom Parker surf Craft. Dubbed the E-Gun Fast light agile and responsive and love the FCS fin boxes Running the fcs equivalent to the futures blackstix 4.0

The Doomswell drone is a great board

[Bonte4]

I love mine , Trayvon is right It's fast and with the big fins only it will break lose and spin this was my favorite board til my buddy on this forum made me a custom Parker surf Craft. Dubbed the E-Gun Fast light agile and responsive and love the FCS fin boxes Running the fcs equivalent to the futures blackstix 4.0

The Doomswell drone is a great board

Im not seeing a "Drone" on the site under Blems, is it called something else? All they have currently is the Spark Plug and Skim, thx!

[trayson]

Im not seeing a "Drone" on the site under Blems, is it called something else? All they have currently is the Spark Plug and Skim, thx!

They must have sold out of the Drone Blems. Not surprised. the Drone is a great board.

My wife rides the spark plug. I've ridden it and it's fast and fun too. They say "beginner to intermediate" but I don't think that it's all that much of a beginner board. I think it'd be way fun for any skill level. I still like my nubstep better, but sparkplug is no slouch.

[flydoc]

You might try to demo a triple x board (skim or surf style) they are a little fragile as they are true surf boards but great behind a boat, or the newer Ronix Blender. Lots different than any of the Ronix on Trayson's list.

[supra790]

I demoed the Ronix Blender this week. It was awsome

2016 Supra SG 450

[flydoc]

Santa brought me a blender for Christmas. It looks a lot like a doomswell Neo, but cost a couple hundred buck more. I'd love to find a demo day somewhere and try 5 or 6 boards back to back.

[wolfeman131]

You missed it! Southern Surfest is in 2 wks, but we are sold out.

[kaneboats]

There was a news story on Southern Surfest today:

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/good-day/251299211-story

[wolfeman131]

It was a great event! Had an opportunity to spend some time with a few guys from the forum, the factory and we had a special appearance from Mr. Tinker!

[jmvotto]

It was a fantastic event top to bottom ,
Boards boats crew pros organizers and weather


Except no bumpers on the pontoon :confused:

[13mobiusLSV]

It was a fantastic event top to bottom ,
Boards boats crew pros organizers and weather


Except no bumpers on the pontoon :confused:

100% agree.

Might be too soon on the bumper comment however.


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[Derrick]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a fast surf style board? We are larger riders (230-250 lbs) and are looking for something new. Please let me know what your suggestions are. If anyone is in Michigan and has something, I could try that would be awesome too.

[jmvotto]

You can always custom order a board for your style

Parker surf craft for one can do that here on the forum
Parkersurfcraft.com

To buy off the shelf the Doomswell 4 8 or 410 would definitely get you riding

Wake wood have some nice bigger boards at well

I think someone has a landlocke for sale on the forum good starter board to surf ropeless

[Derrick]

I've been looking at the doomswell boards but haven't been able to find anyone locally with one to try. I'll look into the Parker surfcraft boards. Thanks.