07 LSV surfing upgrades

[chawkphil]

Hey everyone. I have an 07 LSV and I'm looking to upgrade the ballast and possibly add tabs. I'm running the stock 400lbs in the rear and ski locker. The wave basically stinks! Seriously, I had a 2000 Tige 21V with no ballast that surfed better than this thing. Doesn't help my neighbor just bought a supreme s238 with the surf system. Rode behind that last week so now my boat is ruined until I can get a better wave.

I built a ghetto gate for it and it definitely helped but it's bulky and kind of a pain.

I've been all over wakemakers and I'm looking into ordering their upgraded pump system and 910lb bags for the rear. Anyone running this setup on an older LSV? How's the wake? Is it worth putting the money into it?

Also, I've been looking at adding some lenco tabs and actuators rather than fork out the small fortune for wakemakers surf system.

Any thoughts we be greatly appreciated!

Phil

[jelmhorst]

I have nothing to compare boats to as last summer I learned how to surf by outfitting my 07 LSV with 1k sumo max in each locker, filling the center and 500 in the bow. full weight in front,center, and surf side, about 2/3 on non-surf side with the suckgate. I'm planning on doing the reversible pump upgrade in the next few weeks and had hoped to swap to a surf platform but that would run me another 1k+[quote is platform 650, non-skip 300 + tax, freight on top of that]. Others will chime in but its a solid platform to build off of in my opinion.

[chawkphil]

I have nothing to compare boats to as last summer I learned how to surf by outfitting my 07 LSV with 1k sumo max in each locker, filling the center and 500 in the bow. full weight in front,center, and surf side, about 2/3 on non-surf side with the suckgate. I'm planning on doing the reversible pump upgrade in the next few weeks and had hoped to swap to a surf platform but that would run me another 1k+[quote is platform 650, non-skip 300 + tax, freight on top of that]. Others will chime in but its a solid platform to build off of in my opinion.

Thanks for the reply and I'm glad to hear you've had pretty good results with what you've done to your boat! I was starting to worry the hull design just isn't fit for surfing. What are you using for a bow sack? I can't imagine how long it would take to fill 1000 bags with the stock system. I think I'm doing the reversible pump system first before anything else. My wife surfs goofy of course so switching sides is a pain. And her side is definitely better than regular side. I actually started surfing goofy just so I could ride the better wave!

Are you running the same suckgate that others are using here?

Who makes the surf platform you're looking at?

[brain_rinse]

1100 rear surf side, 750 opposite side with suck gate, center 400 and 750 IBS full.
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[mmandley]

These guys have got you on the right path.

Just remember your LSV was designed as a wakeboard boat your making it surf

The Tige and Supreme are designed Surf boats that you can wakeboard behind lol

[chawkphil]

1100 rear surf side, 750 opposite side with suck gate, center 400 and 750 IBS full.
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Now that is a good looking surf wave! Thanks for the info! Do you have any more info on your suckgate?

[chawkphil]

These guys have got you on the right path.

Just remember your LSV was designed as a wakeboard boat your making it surf

The Tige and Supreme are designed Surf boats that you can wakeboard behind lol

The boarding wake is pretty nice but I'm getting too old to get beat up wakeboarding.
25313

This about the best wave I've been able to get out of mine

[twkoehn]

Jeff - How do the Sumo 1k sacs fit in the lockers??? I've been looking to fill my lockers with the largest bag that will fit. BTW, didn't you have 750's before or am I wrong???

[13mobiusLSV]

The boarding wake is pretty nice but I'm getting too old to get beat up wakeboarding.
25313

This about the best wave I've been able to get out of mine

While we are spending your money, is a new life jacket in budget?


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[kaneboats]

I run 2 750's with the opposite side at about 85%, center full and mini IBS that adds about 350. Usually have 6-8 people in the boat. With the suckgate deployed it surfs like crazy. Best part is it takes only a minute or two to switch sides. Top off the surf side, drain a little off the opposite side, move the gate and good to go.

[jelmhorst]

The 1k sumo max bags I have fit perfectly. The 1100 fly highs that I was also looking at were close in dimensions, I think they were 50x24x24 and the 1k bags I have are 50x22x22 or roundabout. Not sure if I will need to brace the divider panels like you do need to with the 1100. I was doing the pump over the side last year to see if I enjoy surfing before committing to the full reversible upgrade. The surf platform has a less pronounced lip and is much narrower and is what the newer boats use. Weighted down the platform digs, but at $1k I'm not nearly in love enough to justify it lol. I bought the sumo 500lb IBS but there is room to go longer in the legs of the bag which is what the 750 does I believe. If you are a heavy surfer then a prop will also be on your list at some point but I'm using stock and its fine for my needs. If you are going to be switching sides then one of the transfer systems will prob be in your future, whenever that $500 grows on that money tree I'd prob like to integrate that as well, beats having to dump and fill all the time.

[chawkphil]

Is your IBS plumbed into the factory system or do you use an over the side pump?

[brain_rinse]

Now that is a good looking surf wave! Thanks for the info! Do you have any more info on your suckgate?

Sent you a pm with the details

[jelmhorst]

I'm over the side for all of my bags except for the center. which is still the stock aerator. I will piggyback the IBS and center switching to the reversible. It's basically 30 minutes to fill up all bags, then another 30 to dump. For those who surf or wake more than I do doing the reversible would be the priority. I grew up slalom and still do so I needed to figure out if I loved it enough to start drilling holes.

[chawkphil]

Awesome. So is wakemakers the best place to buy the ballast upgrades?

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[North Woods Mobius]

1100 rear surf side, 750 opposite side with suck gate, center 400 and 750 IBS full.
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I run a similar set up on my 2014 LSV: Rear 900's (surfside full, offside at 75%), old stock 650lb bag 75% full under surfside seat, 500lb hard tank full and 500lb IBS full. It surfs well, but I just bought one of Dan's sweet suck gates to make it surf GREAT :cool:

[parrothd]

Yep, give wakemakers a call, they can design a custom kit for you. I have 1100s, IBS, Center, and a extra 400lb bag under the seat. I have 4 reverisable pumps. The suckgate is the best option..😀

Don't forget to cross the outlet vents to the opposite side and use vent check valves.

[parrothd]

Don't forget the fresh air exhaust, surfed behind a really expensive enzo recently couldn't believe how loud the thing was. Buzz kill..lol

[chawkphil]

While we are spending your money, is a new life jacket in budget?


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What you don't rock the type 2 vest?:cool:

[chawkphil]

Thanks everyone for your help. Just ordered the ballast pump upgrade, 1000 lb sumo sacs, and divider panel reinforcements from wakemakers. Got sucked down the rabbit hole that is the suckgate thread so looks like I'll be making myself one of those before the season really gets started. Appreciate everyone's input!

[996scott]

I run the set up most have been using. 900s in the lockers, full center ballast bag as well as in the bow and then use a suck gat and I can get a great wave to surf. I did replace the whole pump system with Wakemakers reversible pumps and they are great. I love the upgrade. Not a hard install, just takes some time.

[chawkphil]

I run the set up most have been using. 900s in the lockers, full center ballast bag as well as in the bow and then use a suck gat and I can get a great wave to surf. I did replace the whole pump system with Wakemakers reversible pumps and they are great. I love the upgrade. Not a hard install, just takes some time.
I went with the 1000lbs sumo sacs and the reversible pump upgrade. Gotta wait for some parts that are out of stock but should all be here by the end of the month. Haven't bought a bow sac yet but I'm sure that will happen sooner than later. I'll build myself a suck gate too hopefully that should get me a respectable wave!

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[chester]

Why are you crossing vent lines? To prevent draining when listed? I feel like it would get annoying remembering everything is reversed when paying attention to which bags are full/empty.


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[beat taco]

1100 rear surf side, 750 opposite side with suck gate, center 400 and 750 IBS full.
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This place needs a like button. Surfs up, well done.

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[parrothd]

Why are you crossing vent lines? To prevent draining when listed? I feel like it would get annoying remembering everything is reversed when paying attention to which bags are full/empty.


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Yes, it stops the bag draining and allows the bag to fill completely. I had to think about your reversed comment as my rear doors open up long before any water comes out the vents.. ��

[chester]

Yeah, against many good suggestions from others on here, I'm sticking with aerator pumps for my system as I know I would forget to shut off the reversibles when empty and be replacing impellers constantly.


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[parrothd]

Yeah, against many good suggestions from others on here, I'm sticking with aerator pumps for my system as I know I would forget to shut off the reversibles when empty and be replacing impellers constantly.


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They dont burn out quick, I leave them on all the time..lol..

[beat taco]

They dont burn out quick, I leave them on all the time..lol..
Why don't they use green for boats?

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[psycho-heico]

I have a 2008 LSV , I have 2 750's in the rears, 400 ski locker, 650 in the bow and a suck gate , run at 11.0 mph , and this is my wavehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/47a5d4fd5b870067dede33df6c1565f0.jpg


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[twkoehn]

That is a great looking surf wave. I am finally upgrading my '07 to 1100 lb bags and 750 lb IBS - installing this spring. Cannot wait to get them in and give it a go, especially after seeing you wave. How does your stock prop handle all that weight. I figured an Acme 1433 would be my next upgrade.

[jelmhorst]

Chawkphil, did they recommend check valves for the bags at all? Are you draining via the thruhull or above the waterline? Were you tying in the center and IBS? I'm getting ready to order all mine up and when I inquired about what all I might need they gave me a list with only the pump upgrade and 6 other connectors for the sumo bags. I was wanting to drain above the waterline so I had a visual indicator of when they were done and I think that involved check valves between the thruhull and pump or pump and bag? Can't remember which but curious as to what they've set you up with.

[chawkphil]

Chawkphil, did they recommend check valves for the bags at all? Are you draining via the thruhull or above the waterline? Were you tying in the center and IBS? I'm getting ready to order all mine up and when I inquired about what all I might need they gave me a list with only the pump upgrade and 6 other connectors for the sumo bags. I was wanting to drain above the waterline so I had a visual indicator of when they were done and I think that involved check valves between the thruhull and pump or pump and bag? Can't remember which but curious as to what they've set you up with.
No check valves so I will be draining below the water. Now that you mention it I may change that down the road but for now I'll see how this setup works. Everything just got here. I'm surprised it didn't come with a single bit of instruction. Would have been nice of them to recommend some pump mounting locations and hose routing. Oh well I probably wouldn't have read it anyways! Hopefully I'll get a chance to get started with the installation tomorrow but it will likely be Friday before I get time. I'll post some pics of the final product and hopefully get the boat on the water next week for a trial run!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/af7dfe2eabacee399a35859fa872333c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/ca7d4eb9884acddb67a45cf7b067370e.jpg

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[twkoehn]

I would like to put this upgrade into my boat in the future. Any pictures or instructions you can provide from your installation would be greatly appreciated.

[parrothd]

No check valves so I will be draining below the water. Now that you mention it I may change that down the road but for now I'll see how this setup works. Everything just got here. I'm surprised it didn't come with a single bit of instruction. Would have been nice of them to recommend some pump mounting locations and hose routing. Oh well I probably wouldn't have read it anyways! Hopefully I'll get a chance to get started with the installation tomorrow but it will likely be Friday before I get time. I'll post some pics of the final product and hopefully get the boat on the water next week for a trial run!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/af7dfe2eabacee399a35859fa872333c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/ca7d4eb9884acddb67a45cf7b067370e.jpg

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The check valves allow you to completely drain the bags, not a big deal, but I suck my bags down flat to save on fuel costs. Search the forum, I've done this install many times as have others.. :)

[parrothd]

Looks like the search is broken on the forum? Google kinda works...

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?25789-Wiring-Wakemakers-Gravity-III-Upgrade-to-Factory-Switches

https://forum.moomba.com/archive/index.php/t-25789.html

[MJHSupra]

Somebody just asked the same question on the Supra forum. Asking about the global steps and time.

Should be on the General Section. I think the boat was a 20 or 21.


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[MJHSupra]

On mounting pumps, Johnson or Jabsco, I'm pretty sure Wakemakers recommends mounting them with the brass-side (impeller) pointing down and the motor up.

I have mine mounted by the v-drive/tranny b/c there was more room. But if redid the install, I would try to have them by the transom.


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[rdlangston13]

1100 rear surf side, 750 opposite side with suck gate, center 400 and 750 IBS full.
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what would you charge me to make one of those?

[brain_rinse]

what would you charge me to make one of those?

Here's a link to my post in the classifieds. https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?28876-Suck-gate-sale-150

Send me a PM if you want in and I'll get you the ordering info. Thanks!

[chawkphil]

Well got basically everything finished up today. I called wakemakers yesterday to clear a couple questions I had and they were a huge help. Just awesome customer service! There is supposed to be an instruction sheet included with the kit so they emailed that to me right away and answered my questions.
Since I switched from the stock fly high sacs to the sumo sacs I needed fitting with 1" thread to replace the 3/4". They caught this when I ordered but sent me 4 1 inch thread to 1 inch quick connect. Since you reuse the 3/4 inch vent lines, I actually needed two 1 inch quick connect and two 3/4 inch. So they got those sent out to me.
While I was talking to them I also decided check valves were a good idea to make sure the bags get emptied completely. It'll still drain below the wsater line this way but at least I know there won't be water left in the bags.
Here's a few pictures of the install.

Installing the thru hull fittings. The middle one wound a bit closer to the factory supper than I wanted but it needed to be there in order to clear everything when threading on the ball valve. I have an extendable hood prop rod for working on cars that I used under the boat to hold the mushroom fittings in place while I tightened them up top. It worked out great as there are ribs inside the fittings that you can hold on to to keep the fitting from spinning while you tighten.
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After the holes were drilled the rest was really simple. I ended up tapping into the factory distribution block under the dash. It's fed through a 50 amp breaker with what looks to be at least 6 gauge wire. The nominal draw on the pumps I 13amps so as long as I flip them on one at a time and don't just hit all 3 switches at once then this should allow for plenty of current for the pumps. If not I'll run some 4 gauge and a new breaker to a separate fuse panel like others have done.
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This install is much cleaner than the factory mess under the dash!

I mounted the pumps up by the v drive. The pump for the front ballast on the bulkhead behind the rear seat and the two rear pumps on the panels just in front of the folding engine divider panels. Made wiring a plumbing very easy.

All the wiring as well as the 1 inch hose for the front bag was ran under the floor in the channel on the fuel tank. The old wiring harness and some zip ties made it easy to pull the new wiring through from behind the dash.

From there is was just cutting the rest of the hose to length and installing the quick connect fittings! A heat gun made getting the 1 inch hose installed over quick connects much easier! I initially used soapy water for lubrication but that wasn't necessary so I stopped using it. I also installed the engine divider panel reinforcements. The panels are tapered so I was only able to install the front 2 reinforcements on each side as they are too long for the rear of the panel when installed on the engine side. I'll cut the other 2 down so they'll fit later. The 1000lb bags seem to fit really well in the lockers. I'll take a picture when I fill them up at the lake

All told the install took about 6 hours. The kit from wakemakers was awesome and I'd do it again in a heartbeat! Can't wait to see how it performs on the water next week!

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[chawkphil]

Pumps mounted.
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[chawkphil]

Wiring and plumbing ran through the channel under the floor.
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[chawkphil]

New bags fill out the lockers nicely. Looks like they'll be a good fit!
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[chawkphil]

Sorry for all the separate posts... 4 pic limit per post.

And don't mind my interior it's next on the list! Hopefully get it done before summer really gets going.

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[twkoehn]

Great job!!!! Really appreciate all the pictures and knowledge.

[chester]

Is that romex wire you're using?


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[chawkphil]

Is that romex wire you're using?


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No its the wire that came in the kit. It's regular stranded wire with a nice white sheathing over it. It does look just like romex.

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[MJHSupra]

Looks like you used bolts to attach the pumps.
Good if you need to take them off to get to the impellers.

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[chawkphil]

Looks like you used bolts to attach the pumps.
Good if you need to take them off to get to the impellers.

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Yep stainless bolts and nylock nuts should stay put, last a long time, and make service easy.

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[MJHSupra]

Years ago, my Johnson pumps came with the black impellers. I swapped those out after 1-2 seasons with the orange ones.

What did yours come with?


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[chawkphil]

They have the orange impellers already installed. Have you been happy with the orange ones?

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[MJHSupra]

They have the orange impellers already installed. Have you been happy with the orange ones?

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The original black impeller started to stick on 1-2 of the pumps after a few years. Sometimes the switch would fix it (moving forward & reverse), sometimes I had to reopen and make sure the brass bolts were not installed too tight. Tried some lube. It was a PITA.

Never an issue with the orange. They are more flexible.

[rdlangston13]

The original black impeller started to stick on 1-2 of the pumps after a few years. Sometimes the switch would fix it (moving forward & reverse), sometimes I had to reopen and make sure the brass bolts were not installed too tight. Tried some lube. It was a PITA.

Never an issue with the orange. They are more flexible.

I am having the same issue with my black impellers, just ordered 3 new orange ones to replace them hoping this fixes the sticking problem. All three of mine stick. The tightness of the cover bolts can affect this? Maybe when i swap them out i need to not install the bolts as tight as well.

[chawkphil]

Well I made it up to the lake to try everything out.

First up the pros:
1. Most importantly, no leaks! The fit and finish with this kit was really top notch!

2. The pumps worked great. Fast fill times and full emptying thanks to the check valves!

And now the bad...
1. 2000lbs in the lockers with just the 400lb in the ski locker is way too much for this boat. Perfect pass wouldn't hold speed and the wave was nowhere near surfable. RPMs were way up and once the boat hit the set speed the perfect pass backed off and the boat slowed way down. I'd imagine more weight in the front to help level it out and stay on plane will help but what a huge disappoinment. Also think a new prop may be in order.

2. Throttle issues. The boat fired right up and ran great but once I slowed down to idle and tried to accelerate again I had no throttle. Forward and reverse engaged just fine but there was nothing but idle. I had this issue once last summer as well. If I unplug the middle connector on the ecm and plug it back in it works fine for a bit but the issue persisted throughout the day.

Overall a pretty rough trip but hey, a bad day on the lake beats a good day anywhere else right?

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[5:00]

It sounds like a propeller issue. Your motor is big enough to drive those sacks. Did you adjust the wake plate as well? More weight in the front will make the wake longer as well. Try filling the sacks 100% on the surf side and 80% on the opposite side. Depending on how many people in the boat I don't even need to fill the rear surf side to 100%. Don't worry you will get it working and it will work.

[parrothd]

Sounds like the perfect pass servo is shot. Perfect pass has some great support docs, basically make sure the perfect pass servo is moving.

[parrothd]

Yep, you need an ibs, use the old rear bag in the bow and used a tsunami pump. You'll need a new prop sooner or later, acme 1433..

[MJHSupra]

I am having the same issue with my black impellers, just ordered 3 new orange ones to replace them hoping this fixes the sticking problem. All three of mine stick. The tightness of the cover bolts can affect this? Maybe when i swap them out i need to not install the bolts as tight as well.
Also take a look at the brass cover plate that faces the impeller. Mine had a few black marks from the black rubber. Felt uneven. I sanded that smooth.

The screws need to be tight enough to put pressure on that thin rubber gasket the to prevent leaks. Not sure that would effect the impeller sticking.

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[KG's Supra24]

Sounds like the perfect pass servo is shot. Perfect pass has some great support docs, basically make sure the perfect pass servo is moving.

I agree. Perfect pass servo replacement is likely needed

Prop will make a difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDDss5FmH7w

[chawkphil]

I agree. Perfect pass servo replacement is likely needed

Prop will make a difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDDss5FmH7w
It's a drive by wire system so it doesn't have a servo. Although I'm not ruling out throttle issues since it seems that my throttle position sensor failed and was causing the boat to go into forced idle.

And I just took a look at the prop and it turns out its already got an OJ 14.25 x 14 which is designed specifically for surfing and heavy ballast so that's not the issue either.

I'm definitely gonna throw one of the old bags up front under the bow seats and see if that helps. I'll plumb it into the vent line from the ski locker bag since that's how the ibs is gonna be plumbed eventually anyways.

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[KG's Supra24]

I didn't realize it was different from Supra of that era. Ignore me.

Agree on prop size.

[parrothd]

You sure, I don't think it's drive by wire...Thought those came later....

[chawkphil]

You sure, I don't think it's drive by wire...Thought those came later....
Yep. Throttle cable goes back to the engine bay and is hooked up to nothing but a throttle (pedal) position sensor. Trust me I'm trying to track down that sensor now and it's proven to be quite a chore...

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[rdlangston13]

my 08 is drive by wire so I would not be shocked if his 07 had the same system. If you're trying to get on plain while surfing then you're doing it wrong. I run more weight than that surfing with acme 1847 and my PP has no issues holding speed.

[kaneboats]

Might want to shut off the PP and see how your throttle operation is. See if you can get up on plane-- go over by 5-6 MPH then drop back to surf speed and engage the PP. If it holds you might need an adjustment to your PP controls to make it more or less "aggressive". If you can describe what is happening you can call them and they will walk you through what changes to make to your settings.

[chawkphil]

Tomorrow is round 2 of trying to workout the kinks. Replaced the throttle body so that should take care of my forced idle issue. Threw one of the old sacs under the front seats to help keep the bow down a bit while surfing. Hopefully that helps with the wake and the perfect pass

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[chawkphil]

Just got back from the lake and I'm happy to say I've finally got the wave dialed in! I appreciate all your guys input. My little LSV now surfs at least close to as well as my neighbor's brand new Supreme S238. The wave is tall and long and has a good amount of push all the way back to the curl. Just like you guys suggested front 750lb ibs full, center locker 400lb full, surf side 1000lb locker bag full and opposite side 65%-75% full. Suckgate and about 10.5 mph. Wakeplate at about 1/2. The pictures were before I really got it set up and don't even come close to doing justice. Just me, my wife, dad, and 1 year old daughter on the boat. It is an awesome wave thanks guys!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/b93d5d19998c1c476b6b9635e0af3df8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/2bd844c529652e17fd74e43e3bcb3048.jpg

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[chawkphil]

Oh and here's the suckgate I builthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/0dfa96293c8a1abed86c1b89457fe0eb.jpg

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[kaneboats]

Sound like you're getting it dialed in. The LSV is a great surf boat but has to be set up right to really get the best out of it (you could say that for any hull though).

[Hutch5]

Thanks for all this great info and the pics on the upgrade chawkphil....I just got my upgrade kit and plan is to get it done this week and (hopefully) back in the water Saturday. Might be aggressive given work schedule and if I am missing parts ....but seems as though from your thread on this I should be ok. My initial main questions were pump mounting location and thru hull locations, so appreciate your pics for that...assume the pump locations worked with no issues? Also, dumb question I am sure, but did you change the routing on the vent lines which were reused from the old drain lines? Certainly looks good based on the wave. Thanks again!

Mark

[chawkphil]

Thanks for all this great info and the pics on the upgrade chawkphil....I just got my upgrade kit and plan is to get it done this week and (hopefully) back in the water Saturday. Might be aggressive given work schedule and if I am missing parts ....but seems as though from your thread on this I should be ok. My initial main questions were pump mounting location and thru hull locations, so appreciate your pics for that...assume the pump locations worked with no issues? Also, dumb question I am sure, but did you change the routing on the vent lines which were reused from the old drain lines? Certainly looks good based on the wave. Thanks again!

Mark
So far the pump location has worked out great. Make sure you mount them with the impeller down and try to rout the lines so that loop upward from the pumps so that water naturally settles in the impellers. I've left my pumps running far too long a few times already and haven't had to replace an impeller yet. My neighbors pumps are mounted upside down and he's gone through several impellers already this season.

I did not cross the vent lines as the idea behind using a suckgate is having the boat fairly level vs listing it to either side. I haven't noticed any water running out of the vent lines while surfing so I don't see a need for it.

Good luck on the install! As I said in the thread the ibs is an absolute must and I'd go even heavier than 750lbs if I could. It makes all the difference. You will not regret doing this. It turns this small crossover boat into a legitimate surf boat.

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[STX]

Hi everyone

I was wondering if any of you would be kind enough to send me plans for a successful proven suck g8 for a 07 LSV

Thanks in advance

CJ

[kaneboats]

May have to run a search on "suckgate" "suck gate" or "sukg8". Here is a head start though (Look at post #297):

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?27467-Anyone-seen-or-tried-Ronix-Wakesurf-Shaper-on-Moomba-boats/page30

[STX]

Thanks for that, it is indeed a head start. I did do a search without much success hence the question. I am convinced there is a suck gate thread on here that I have read but I can't seem to find it again.

[CaptainWebb]

This thread has been awesome! I bought an 08 LSV a month ago and was nervous that there was not much surf info like the older Centurions etc.
Anyways 650lbs in the front, Two 1,100S in the rear, 400lbs in the floor, 250 on the surf side, and a wake shaper. THIS WAVE IS EPIC!
It does not matter the size of the rider or the board there is tons of wave to rip on.

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[996scott]

yea, it is all about weight and a good wake shaper. Our 07 LSV had a great wave. Glad you got it dialed in.

[CaptainWebb]

yea, it is all about weight and a good wake shaper. Our 07 LSV had a great wave. Glad you got it dialed in.

Oh yeah I bought the Swell and the Liquid Force Edge Pro 2 Wake Shapers. For me boat the Liquid Force was superior and I sent the Swell back.

Do you know how to post larger photos?

[DNIXD99]

Do you know how to post larger photos?

Most of us are using https://imgur.com or tapatalk. Everyone discussed the image issues here for years, and have now gave up on it lol. Were all using third party software.

[Isaguel]

I believe the image issue is fixed. I have not had trouble uploading files from my hard drive recently.
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This is just a test. Was playing with the configurator and saved this image in my hard drive. No, I'm not shopping.

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