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Prospersigman
12-19-2016, 02:21 PM
$763.49 for 20 hr break in service and winterization, really? I feel like I got bent over by my dealer.

wolfeman131
12-19-2016, 03:49 PM
really?

you must have missed this thread:

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?28833-Block-Cracked-%26%23128557%3B

russellsmojo
12-19-2016, 05:08 PM
Pretty cheap!!


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BrettLee3232
12-19-2016, 05:20 PM
Bust
Out
Another
Thousand


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JASONZ
12-19-2016, 05:31 PM
Hi,
These things are not that difficult to maintain.
On my street we have six inboards and only one us hires a mechanic for routine maintenance.
The fluid changes are easy (oil, trans, and v-drive).
The winterization takes some know-how but I am sure there is a step-by-step on this forum.
Here is how long it takes me:
I usually change the fluids after a morning run when its already hot.
This takes about 2 hours if you don't have a helper. (Supplies about $50)
The no-freeze takes me about 90 minutes but this would also go much faster if I had a helper but somehow all my summer friends are no where to be found on a cold November day when I am doing this :confused: (Supplies about $50)
Total: About 4 hours of labor + $100 supplies

KG's Supra24
12-19-2016, 06:05 PM
I could be wrong but check the breakdown ... I'd bet the bulk of the cost is in the 20 hr service as several of us have seen ridiculous pricing for this. It must be some proprietary stuff as I haven't had anyone that can tell me what the 20 hr service entails.

smorris7
12-19-2016, 06:17 PM
I could be wrong but check the breakdown ... I'd bet the bulk of the cost is in the 20 hr service as several of us have seen ridiculous pricing for this. It must be some proprietary stuff as I haven't had anyone that can tell me what the 20 hr service entails.

I'm pretty sure it's just changing oil, tranny and vdrive fluids. Maybe a quit Alignment check. Generally priced around 300-400. So with his winterization the price seems normal.


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wolfeman131
12-19-2016, 07:30 PM
It must be some proprietary stuff as I haven't had anyone that can tell me what the 20 hr service entails.

see pg 64 for a start

some dealers will go over the boat & trailer to check fit & finish, etc. and some also water test if there are any reported issues

KG's Supra24
12-19-2016, 07:58 PM
see pg 64 for a start

some dealers will go over the boat & trailer to check fit & finihs, etc. and some also water test if there are any reported issues
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They make sure the boat is on the trailer correctly?

I was told "fluid changes and check for loose bolts and stuff". That's a weak explanation for a $450 service.

The dealer realm in this industry leaves alot to be desired BUT paying the dealer let's you point the finger when something goes wrong. Speaking of, I need to follow up with mine AGAIN to get the fix for my oil being stored in the bilge.

But to op, the pricing isn't far off from what other new owners are seeing.

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deerfield
12-19-2016, 08:35 PM
...but this would also go much faster if I had a helper...

JASONZ - Let me know when you need a hand. I enjoy doing this kind of stuff. Live west of Richmond and about 30 minutes south of Lake Anna. - Deerfield

sandm
12-19-2016, 08:58 PM
no different than a car dealer that soaks you for the "suggested" maintenance in your manual. some charge up to $500 for a 30k service that really only amounts to checking the stuff that quick lubes check for your $30 oil change.

should ask for the quote before any work is performed and as the old saying goes.... "buyer beware".....

wolfeman131
12-19-2016, 09:01 PM
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They make sure the boat is on the trailer correctly?

I was told "fluid changes and check for loose bolts and stuff". That's a weak explanation for a $450 service.


Sorry, looks like I didn't post the link:

https://crm.skierschoice.com/files/documents/moomba_14.pdf

See if that pg 64 doesn't provide a more comprehensive list. Your dealer really should provide a more detailed explanation of what you're paying for.

JASONZ
12-20-2016, 08:59 AM
thanks! :)
Yeah - we are in a supra dealer deadzone over here....so we need to do everything ourselves.
I usually make my wife come out and give me a hand.

MJHSupra
12-21-2016, 12:15 AM
thanks! :)
Yeah - we are in a supra dealer deadzone over here....so we need to do everything ourselves.
I usually make my wife come out and give me a hand.

Now that's a wife.

DOCDRS
12-23-2016, 06:48 PM
I think we have all been bent over at some point in our boating lives and the ones that do it themselves have refused to let it happen again. For the rest ...... I guess they could survive jail..........oops , there is my inside voice again......merry christmas

DFTR Josh
12-24-2016, 11:40 PM
For the boaters without the right tools and know how it's worth it. Most shops without a high margin pro shop is how they make their money. I have a buddy that just had to hire a master mechanic and damn I was surprised with the salary. Plus side is all the work should be guaranteed and have some backing behind it. I've heard some nightmare DIY stories where worst case has happened.