Order factory nonskid snap out or do seadek/gatorstep instead?

[That Guy]

Never been in a boat with the nonskid snap out stuff but hated my last boat that had snap out carpet as it just held the water horribly.

What are people's impressions on the factory snap out nonskid stuff?

How does it hold up to use?
Does it get hot?
Easy to clean?
Would you order it again?

We will keep the boat on a lift so want to make sure it doesn't hold water or anything.

I like the idea of something permanently installed but am concerned with corners peeling up, it getting nicked up or stained, etc.

Thanks

[BrettLee3232]

Do gator/seadek 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[DFTR Josh]

I had the snap no skid on my first boat and it was awesome. Just like any product out there it does get very hot (100 deg) in the sun but doesn't hold water at all. Take it out and use a push broom with mild soap and it looks brand new again. It's a factory option that's worth the upgrade and yes I would order it again.

[That Guy]

Thanks for the input. I'm torn...and while doing some searching I came across this website....which seems much more affordable than Seadek/Gatorstep and still looks nice as well.

Anyone heard of this stuff? http://agendasurf.com/shop/boat-trailer/boat-sheet-traction.html

[gravity]

The agenda is pretty good stuff. I used it on my platform and walkway cooler and bow floor. The platform is in the sun all the time of course and it lost its brushed look. So I take a course scrub brush and drag it across it it a strait line to bring back the brushed look. Is pretty good but does leave little particles on your feet that will track on the sunpad. I honestly would never do an intire floor with it or the gators step. Im a snap out carpet kind of guy and my wife agrees also. Just feels and looks nicer. Gets gross just pulling out and clean it.

[That Guy]

Gravity....any pics of your boat/the agenda stuff? Which model/style did you choose?

I'm not excited when you say it leaves little particles on your feet that track into the boat....is this because you scrub it or it does this naturally?

I'm definitely NOT a snap-out CARPET guy, figured that out the first couple times on our last boat when after the carpet got wet it took a day or two to dry out while hanging up.....and NEVER dried out sitting in the boat. That's unacceptable to me and sucked to have a wet floor for a week straight on our lake vacation.

I may be a snap-out non skid mat guy...but didn't really pay attention to the materials and how breatheable it was when we were at the dealership, guess I'll make another trip down there to check it out in person.

Reason I wanted to do something permanent is to prevent water from getting under something and never really drying out. I agree from a cleanliness standpoint that it may be more difficult to clean, but if they have it on 100k+ boats it can't be all bad, right?

The factory non skid flooring is a $690 option, which I think for the same price or less I could probably install Gatorstep/Agenda flooring permanently and never had to take it out, etc.

[gravity]

If I was going to do the whole floor and didn't do carpet then I would probably do the Gator step. Agenda will cut out for your boat and is great to talk to. You could call him I believe his name is Dave. I did the softer brushed because I couldn't get the sheet to cut myself in the firmer. But he can tell you more.

[gravity]

The guys on Centurion crew swear buy deckadance. It is a mat that is soft and feels like carpet but has no backing and a texture that doesn't obsorb water at all. Might be a good option also.

[moombahighrider]

Thanks for the input. I'm torn...and while doing some searching I came across this website....which seems much more affordable than Seadek/Gatorstep and still looks nice as well.

Anyone heard of this stuff? http://agendasurf.com/shop/boat-trailer/boat-sheet-traction.html

Same stuff. Way better price...
http://www.pwcmuscle.com/hydroturf-sheet-37-x-58-2-tone.html#header-cart

Guys have been talking about hydroturf for a while. Do some searches and you will come up with some decent info.

[gravity]

Same stuff but once you add the 3m adhesive it is no longer cheaper. Agenda and hydro turf will send you sample pieces in the mail also

[moombahighrider]

Same stuff but once you add the 3m adhesive it is no longer cheaper. Agenda and hydro turf will send you sample pieces in the mail also

Fair enough. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the guys who have already done this suggest not doing the pre-stuck 3M, but applying the adhesive separately.

[gravity]

I have heard of that. The adhesive on my agenda has been good for 3 years. I just didn't want to mess with glue.

[DFTR Josh]

So many products out there and not really a bad way to go. Here's a pic of my stock floor from Moomba with the snaps.
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[kaneboats]

Anyone heard of this stuff? http://agendasurf.com/shop/boat-trailer/boat-sheet-traction.html

Heard of it? I believe Agenda is a sponsor of this forum's favorite wakesurfers!!!!!!

[That Guy]

Thanks for all the great info guys. I talked to Dave at Agenda a couple times today and he was a huge help. He's sending me some samples of different choices I thought would look good and I plan to do my entire floor in it as well as add some matching pieces on the gunnels and hopefully a piece on the bow. On my build I opted to delete the snaps/carpet so there won't be able holes in the floor anywhere in case I decide not to place a pad in that area. So much to look forward to!

[gravity]

Nice. Dave took his time and helped me. Good guy.

[5:00]

Is no one going the miners moss route? Thinking about it but not at all committed.

[That Guy]

Is no one going the miners moss route? Thinking about it but not at all committed.

I actually used that in my last boat after realizing the snap out carpet was horrible. While the miners moss was an improvement it still trapped water under it and required removal to hang dry. Which is what I'm trying to prevent having to do since I will be leaving the boat on a lift out of state next summer.

I've gotten numbers from Agenda Surf, SeaDek and Gatorstep now I just need to decide which to go with, thankfully I've got months to decide!

[gravity]

I talked to sea deck and they where horrible. Worst customer service. Swore I will never do business with them and warn others.

[That Guy]

Interesting. Thanks for mentioning that as definitely concerning. I never spoke to SeaDek directly but a local certified installer my dealer recommended. They were great in answering all of my questions.

[5:00]

Will book mark and see how this goes. I am just worried about the heat factor. The miners moss has no issue with that but good to know about the water retention. I have mine on a lift as well. The cover is well vented and I don't seem to have any issues with it.

[DFTR Josh]

I am just worried about the heat factor
I had the factory grey from Moomba and it's been the hottest flooring yet. For the look and convince of cleaning it was well worth it, just threw down towels until they got moist and it was good to go. I've see others with full Seadeck type stuff and say it don't get hot... I would like proof of this cause I melted my feet once with the learning curve.

[5:00]

I can't have that going on for sure. I have been into PWC's for about 9 years now. When you touch any of that vinyl or Hydro Turf type of stuff it is just hot when sitting in the sun. You have to throw water on it just to sit down and that is light gray. On my stand up it instantly sinks in and gets soaked so it isn't an issue. Even the vinyl on our Moomba sun deck is the same. No problem walking on the white but stay away from the grey and don't even think about touching the black. That is like lava. You may as well be stepping on a Hot Pocket. I may be leaning toward that miners moss just for the heat factor.