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That Guy
11-17-2016, 11:24 AM
Hey Guys,

Working a deal on a Helix and trying to make sure I'm not missing anything between a 16 and 17. Any standard equipment that changed to know about? Only options difference I'm aware of is the Autowake feature which for the savings on this leftover I'm pretty sure I'll be fine without.

Where should I be shooting price wise? Interested to hear what people have paid for their Helix.

This one is pretty loaded, but is technically a year old since 2017's are out so I want to pay appropriately.

Options wise it's pretty loaded:

Metalflake
Color upcharge on hull
Black chrome graphic
Flow surf package
Non skid gunnel and bow
Cleats
Non skid flooring
Swivel racks
Bimini
Full cover
Bow cushion
Dual batteries with charger
Spare tire with bracket
7pin plug
Guide pole covers
Swing tongue
Transom straps
Water strainer and flush kit

So about the only thing it needs is a stereo, which I'm capable of adding myself. Wish it had trailer steps on the back but that's not a need.

Appreciate your thoughts.

kaneboats
11-17-2016, 11:46 AM
Might think about waiting for the boat show and ordering then. There are usually a ton of incentives to order the newest model then.

sivs1
11-17-2016, 12:17 PM
does this help?

http://www.slcboats.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=2164589&p=1&make=moomba&s=Year&d=D&fr=xAllInventory

That Guy
11-17-2016, 04:50 PM
Might think about waiting for the boat show and ordering then. There are usually a ton of incentives to order the newest model then.

Yeah that's my big hiccup, incentives aren't out yet and I'm not sure when this boat will sell. It's discounted about 20% though and I can't see getting close to that off an ordered one.


does this help?

http://www.slcboats.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=2164589&p=1&make=moomba&s=Year&d=D&fr=xAllInventory

That does quite a bit! Thanks

Stazi
11-18-2016, 01:52 PM
The newer Autoflow 2.0 system is a definite improvement over the 2016 version.


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That Guy
11-18-2016, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the input. My local dealer stepped up and is getting me setup right in a '17! Build date in February so it's going to be a loooooooong winter wait.

DFTR Josh
11-18-2016, 11:38 PM
Thanks for the input. My local dealer stepped up and is getting me setup right in a '17! Build date in February so it's going to be a loooooooong winter wait.

Well lets see the build pictures!!!

patrick232
11-19-2016, 11:08 AM
Congrats on joining the moomba family, did you order from Jeff or Chad?

doingr8
12-20-2016, 10:00 PM
The newer Autoflow 2.0 system is a definite improvement over the 2016 version.


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What changed other than autowake? Just curious.


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Stazi
12-21-2016, 07:09 AM
What changed other than autowake? Just curious.


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The screen display (graphics) on the 2017 are totally different and look like an Xbox 360, vs the Black and white Atari like graphics from 2016 etc. The surf tabs were also redesigned and improved (larger). Not sure what else.....


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mattsask
12-21-2016, 12:33 PM
The screen display (graphics) on the 2017 are totally different and look like an Xbox 360, vs the Black and white Atari like graphics from 2016 etc. The surf tabs were also redesigned and improved (larger). Not sure what else.....


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So let me get this straight. The 16's had larger plates than the 16's and now the 17's have larger autoflow plates again?

Fingers crossed that they're a direct swap!

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jstenger
12-21-2016, 12:34 PM
I think that info is wrong.

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mattsask
12-21-2016, 12:35 PM
That was supposed to say 16's had larger plates that 15's, but I'm sure you guys caught my typo.

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Stazi
12-21-2016, 12:43 PM
I know for a fact that the surf tabs on my 2017 Craz are larger and a different shape to the 2016 Craz I saw at the dealer.


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jstenger
12-21-2016, 02:34 PM
I do not doubt you. I answered based on what I saw at my dealer. Their 2017 boat plates looked just like the 2016's. They had all four models.

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KG's Supra24
12-21-2016, 03:07 PM
I was surprised when I first read it to. That means there would be a different plate in 15, 16, and 17.

Any pics of the potentially new plates in 2017?

Stazi
12-21-2016, 03:07 PM
Boat is in storage off site


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mattsask
12-21-2016, 03:09 PM
I know for a fact that the surf tabs on my 2017 Craz are larger and a different shape to the 2016 Craz I saw at the dealer.


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Would you mind taking some pics and or measurements of the plates on your 17? I'd like to have somewhat of an idea what I'm talking about when I start hassling me dealer for some larger 17 plates.


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KG's Supra24
12-21-2016, 03:10 PM
Here are the pics i took about a year ago of 15 vs 16 ... or maybe better put ... autoflow 1 vs 2

2015

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/d5f13246a41462ac21632156ccb205a6.jpg

2016

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/c576f00ba02906784a6c9095a8fd71a9.jpg

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Stazi
12-21-2016, 03:15 PM
I found a pic the dealer took, but its not clear. The wakeplates also have these metal strips bolted to the underside to direct the water flow along the underside of the plate, kind of like low profile skegs.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/156aff33345c8427e47ae077edbc5858.png


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mattsask
12-21-2016, 03:35 PM
The autoflow 2.0 in 16 also had the metal strips on the bottom to direct water. It is tough to tell from that picture whether the plates themselves are larger, but they do look very similar. Thanks for the pics!

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Stazi
12-21-2016, 03:41 PM
Maybe they are and I'm thinking of the Helix's plates. [emoji848]


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KG's Supra24
12-21-2016, 04:27 PM
I'm thinking the flow plates are the same. The autowake feature is new for 2017, though.

jstenger
12-21-2016, 06:24 PM
I agree with KG.

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doingr8
12-21-2016, 08:37 PM
I found a pic the dealer took, but its not clear. The wakeplates also have these metal strips bolted to the underside to direct the water flow along the underside of the plate, kind of like low profile skegs.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/156aff33345c8427e47ae077edbc5858.png


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Those look to be the same as the '16s.


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doingr8
12-21-2016, 08:39 PM
Maybe they are and I'm thinking of the Helix's plates. [emoji848]


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Helix plates are exactly the same, and the new screen came out in 2016 with the release of the Helix.


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Stazi
12-21-2016, 09:26 PM
The physical screen may be the same but the GUI is totally different, as I got a 2016 manual with my 2017 Craz as the 2017 manual wasn't available, and the display graphics shown in my manual look NOTHING like my actual GUI.


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doingr8
12-21-2016, 10:30 PM
The physical screen may be the same but the GUI is totally different, as I got a 2016 manual with my 2017 Craz as the 2017 manual wasn't available, and the display graphics shown in my manual look NOTHING like my actual GUI.


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I guess in boat buying I will always feel like I missed new tech by 6 months! Things keep changing and improving.


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jstenger
12-22-2016, 08:12 AM
I think that new colored screen was only available on the late release 2016 Helix and now standard on all of the 2017's. That is why it isn't in the 2016 manual.

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Stazi
12-22-2016, 10:33 AM
Yeah, I need to call SC and have them send me a 2017 manual


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Davpmars
01-14-2017, 10:37 AM
I'm looking at a helix now, can anyone tell what is a good price on a helix that is moderately equipped? (Bimini, surf system, and stationary board racks, tandem trailer. That's about all the options)


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Davpmars
01-14-2017, 11:06 AM
Sorry, this was meant to be a new topic...


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Pipeliner07
01-24-2017, 07:59 PM
2017 have autowake

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Pipeliner07
01-24-2017, 08:01 PM
I have one and love it https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/403ccae4d3c283f58a73deb125325700.jpg

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Pipeliner07
01-24-2017, 08:06 PM
I so happy with my boat ..glad I didn't get axis https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/c95983d5304d9c98dafa7bdddeed747c.jpg

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dusty2221
01-27-2017, 09:59 AM
The metal flake is heavy in that green, very sharp!

doingr8
01-27-2017, 01:04 PM
I so happy with my boat ..glad I didn't get axis https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/c95983d5304d9c98dafa7bdddeed747c.jpg

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I agree, we are very happy with our Helix. Nothing even close to it in my opinion for the price, fit and finish, and size (beam).


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Pipeliner07
01-27-2017, 01:05 PM
What colors did you get

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doingr8
01-27-2017, 07:21 PM
What colors did you get

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Willyourun
02-13-2017, 09:04 PM
I'm looking at a 16 vs. 17 Helix too. The 16 was a dealer demo and has 50 hours on it. I'm a potential new boat owner and struggling on how to value that 50 hours? Would love some opinions. Looking at $61,000 MSRP with a $8,100 discount. That includes the new auto wake system, swing hitch, cover, nonskid and flooring. I have to option in Bimini, tower speakers, depth finder, etc. Any help would be appreciated!

jtatexc
02-13-2017, 09:08 PM
I'm looking at a 16 vs. 17 Helix too. The 16 was a dealer demo and has 50 hours on it. I'm a potential new boat owner and struggling on how to value that 50 hours? Would love some opinions. Looking at $61,000 MSRP with a $8,100 discount. That includes the new auto wake system, swing hitch, cover, nonskid and flooring. I have to option in Bimini, tower speakers, depth finder, etc. Any help would be appreciated!
Something to think about and only YOU can decide this, is how much the build and design matters to YOU. I have friends that would pass on that part of it to save a grand, but myself that was very special to me picking the colors and options and knowing it was truly MINE. But everyone is different but something to think about. I absolutely loved designing my boat from scratch and had them leave off all the factory moomba tags because they didn't fit my personal taste.

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