2012 MOJO surf wave

[zambonidriver]

I'm trying to fine tune my wave a bit. I have 1500 in each rear locker and the stock center 600lb ballast, all full. Had 3 adults and 3 kids in the boat. With the flow to in the 3rd (all the way down) I weigh 175 surfing on a CWB Laguna, regular side.

I get good height but at 10.5mph I'm not getting enough push and it was hard keeping up with the boat. The sweet spot it's hard to find (I wish the wave were longer) and too much weight on my front foot to keep up. My son who is 11 can surf all day at that speed.

I'm toying with 1) slowing down a bit and 2) adding a sumo in the front of the boat under the seats. I'd like to avoid adding ballast on the seats in the rear but I'm thinking my rear ballast is not the problem.

Any advice?

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[moombadaze]

. " I have 1500 in each rear locker "

but I'm thinking my rear ballast is not the problem.

Any advice?

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my advise--loose the non surf side rear ballast--this looks to be your issue, you want your surf side heavy and sunk down and your boat leaned over. on my LSV I would have the rear corner of the rub rail in the water

--fill just the surf side and the front--move wake plate to bow up--run about 10.5mph, wake should be golden

now if your running the Flow system forget everything I just wrote

[smorris7]

I'm trying to fine tune my wave a bit. I have 1500 in each rear locker and the stock center 600lb ballast, all full. Had 3 adults and 3 kids in the boat. With the flow to in the 3rd (all the way down) I weigh 175 surfing on a CWB Laguna, regular side.

I get good height but at 10.5mph I'm not getting enough push and it was hard keeping up with the boat. The sweet spot it's hard to find (I wish the wave were longer) and too much weight on my front foot to keep up. My son who is 11 can surf all day at that speed.

I'm toying with 1) slowing down a bit and 2) adding a sumo in the front of the boat under the seats. I'd like to avoid adding ballast on the seats in the rear but I'm thinking my rear ballast is not the problem.

Any advice?

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I have the exact set up. If you take the non surf side down to around 900 to 1000 lbs you should be golden at 10.5 the only thing I have different is I have some lead under my surf side bag. I'm actually around 1700 surf side and 1100 non surf. Hard tank full 750 IBS full.


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[mikenehrkorn]

I'm no expert, but I think you really need some bow weight to offset all the weight in the stern.........I've heard a 60% / 40% split between stern and bow weight as a good rule of thumb.

[smorris7]

https://vimeo.com/168936614https://vimeo.com/168937095

This is Flow on 3rd setting around 10.5 to 10.8

IBS in the bow is mandatory. You need at least 650 to 750lbs in the bow!


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[jstenger]

You are way too light in the bow.

[zambonidriver]

Thanks, I thought that might be one of the issues I could address. I'm assuming a 750lb flyhigh bow sac will fit. I'll start there and see how that goes. Thanks!

[russellsmojo]

How about a pic of the 1500 sac full? I would like to see the fit.


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[zambonidriver]

How about a pic of the 1500 sac full? I would like to see the fit.


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I'll try to get a pic this weekend when I'm out. They fit very snugly width and lengthwise. As far as height, when full they expand to about half the height of the rear lockers. I store tubes and life jackets in the lockers on top of them and there is still plenty of room to toss stuff in there. Makes me think they could have went larger. I bought the boat used and had the dealer put the 1500's in before I even took it home so I've never seen a stock bag in the boat to compare.

I'm more worried about a bow sac. I have a subwoofer under one of the front seats (previous owner designed the stereo) that I'll need to replace with built in wetsounds under the helm (this bow sac is going to lead to more upgrades).

[smorris7]

How about a pic of the 1500 sac full? I would like to see the fit.


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The Enzo sacs fit perfect and fill 100% in the 12 and 13 mojos


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[wolfeman131]

The Enzo sacs fit perfect and fill 100% in the 12 and 13 mojos



I have a set of those sacs I need to sell if anyone is interested.

[russellsmojo]

If I could sell these 1,100 I would buy your Enzo sacs. I do not think they fill up all the way. I suspect I really get about 900 to 1,000 out of them.


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[icemanftr]

I role with 80/20 goofy and 70/30 on regular side. With manual flow. Of course run bow full. Wave is off the charts.


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[Connolly_Crew]

Buy a faster board. Think Phase 5


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[Ironcross25]

I ride regular. I run 1100 surf side. 325 sumo under surf side bench. center full non surf side at 200 (400 stock sac). I have 300ish in bow plus people when I have enough. I am going to add a tube sac under the bow filler since i just got that and can hide it under there. I can deffinatly tell a difference when more weight is in the nose. I run the plate at a 1/4 if your looking at it like a gas gauge. I don't have flow. Ride a lf fish and i have the same troubles staying in pocket, board is a pig. I can usually go for a bit until I carve to hard and fall back and have to pump the crap out of it to get back, then my legs crap out and i loose it. I just ordered my doomswell so I can't wait to see the diff.

[smorris7]

I ride regular. I run 1100 surf side. 325 sumo under surf side bench. center full non surf side at 200 (400 stock sac). I have 300ish in bow plus people when I have enough. I am going to add a tube sac under the bow filler since i just got that and can hide it under there. I can deffinatly tell a difference when more weight is in the nose. I run the plate at a 1/4 if your looking at it like a gas gauge. I don't have flow. Ride a lf fish and i have the same troubles staying in pocket, board is a pig. I can usually go for a bit until I carve to hard and fall back and have to pump the crap out of it to get back, then my legs crap out and i loose it. I just ordered my doomswell so I can't wait to see the diff.

Night and day difference in the Doomswell over the fish. You will love it! You need considerably more weight in the nose. 1000 to 1500 is ideal in the nose. Mojo loves lots of weight. More weight equals bigger wave. Go ahead and fill the 400 no surf side 100% that's still only 1/3 weight on that side. Should give you more push in your wave. You need some offside weight.


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[Ironcross25]

Got it. Thanks.

[mmandley]

Lets have you start with reading these threads

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?23535-Moomba-Flow-The-new-Wake-Enhancement-Device&highlight=2013+Mojo+Surf

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?21937-Bestia-Surfing-2013-Mojo&highlight=2013+Mojo+Surf

If your not into reading them then I will make shorter work of your issues.

1 WAY TOO MUCH REAR WEIGHT!!

You can not run 1500s on both sides and no IBS and use Flow. You just can't do it and make a good wave.

You can use the 1500 only if you plan to weight traditionally one side only and not both. The problem is if you sink the Flow plates too deep in the water they don't do their job.

Ideal setup that I have always went with and works really well, and trust me I have tried almost every bag combination out there.

900 in both rears, fill it for 10 minutes, or change the bags. Doesnt matter.
500 hard tank
750 IBS and if you really want to tweak that wave, 450 in the bow on the side you surf.

The thing is the Mojo is a wide nose boat, and these have always been harder to roll over to one side and this boat is no different.

Wake plate will ork in any position here and be clean, also speed will be closer to 10.6-11mph this will help bring the height down a little, lengthen it and push the pocket farther back making it longer.

Lastly the Flow will work in any position mostly the farther down the higher the wave and slightly more push you get.

Want to Surf goofy, its ALL goofy weight unless you want to make a wake plate adapter like I did to knock the back wash down, this will also make the goofy wave a lot less sensitive to off side weights.

1500 goofy side, 500 hard tank, 750 IBS, 450 on bow in-front of driver makes the best wave we found. Make the wake plate extension and you can now add 400 rear off side weight or let people sit anywhere in the boat they want.

No matter how you weight the Mojo it has to have some sort of lean to the surf side, watch my videos and you will see how white wash on your wave means you are not leaning fare enough, or your going to slow, or too fast. I have tons of videos on this. Let me know what I can do to help you dial it in more.

This is the Enzo 1500 full

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/DSC_0948_zps315c7f24.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/DSC_0948_zps315c7f24.jpg.html)

You will have 2 feet in front of this bag if you don't have extra batteries like i do.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/DSC_0946_zps96ff551c.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/DSC_0946_zps96ff551c.jpg.html)

[zambonidriver]

Thanks for the info. I ordered a 750 IBS and a another 500 bag to move around and experiment. I figured once I get the bow weighted I can try moving some weight around. I'm not going to permanently install these until I get the weight right. Going to play with it this weekend.

Once the proportions are right I'm definitely going for max wave long term. I have the assault motor and an acme 1235 prop so I'm inching toward where I want to be. My wife is ready to kill me because a new box arrives every day. And I haven't even started on sorting out the stereo the previous owner dropped in, which isn't bad.

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[zambonidriver]

Will try to post pics but the wave is huge. Ended up adding a 750 bow sac and an 800 lb big bag. Somewhere around 4350 lb of ballast all in. I found the best push with the manual flow in position 2 and the 800 bag surf side as opposed to on the rear seat. This has been the answer to my prayers! The wave crests like an actual surf wave. It's actually sort of comical.

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[blackcup]

Will try to post pics but the wave is huge. Ended up adding a 750 bow sac and an 800 lb big bag. Somewhere around 4350 lb of ballast all in. I found the best push with the manual flow in position 2 and the 800 bag surf side as opposed to on the rear seat. This has been the answer to my prayers! The wave crests like an actual surf wave. It's actually sort of comical.

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Sounds great ... gotta post some pix. You have the 800lb bag up front on the surf side? Or just in the middle?

[zambonidriver]

I'll pull some pics off my wife's phone. I have an 800lb bag I laid up against the port seats. I figured if I put it on the rear seat I'm back to where I started with too much weight in the back. My daughter was scared to surf at first because the wave was too big. That's what I wanted :)

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[zambonidriver]

Sorry to clarify. I have a 750 IBS under the front seats. Stock center ballast. 800 up against the port seats. And two 1500's.

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[zambonidriver]

24398

I guess perfection is unattainable.

[Atlanta1213]

I have a set of those sacs I need to sell if anyone is interested.

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