NEW Moomba Model to be released on Thursday

[wolfeman131]

keep your eyes open for the Helix!

[wolfeman131]

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[sivs1]

Was ready to start a new post on this, can't wait to see it.

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[New Guy]

Getting back into the 20' market?

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[patrick232]

Getting back into the 20' market?

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Maybe from what I heard and saw.

[tater]

Are they dropping the Mondo already? Don't know why you would need 2,20'5 boats the link was leaked over on wakeworld looks like a little SA has some cool features

[trayson]

Getting back into the 20' market?

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Looks like:
20'5"
Same hull as Mondo
Raptor standard
Autoflow 2.0
Multifuction color display
BT Kicker Headunit

[trayson]

Are they dropping the Mondo already? Don't know why you would need 2,20'5 boats the link was leaked over on wakeworld looks like a little SA has some cool features

I found the same link. haha. good old cached web content.

[seftonm]

Curious how this will compare to a Mondo and if they're going to keep both. Maybe it's a new entry level boat to slot in below the Mondo? There has been a bit of a void now that the Outback V is gone.

[Packman]

Was told at the the boat show kind of a cross between the LSV and Outback V.

[trayson]

Curious how this will compare to a Mondo and if they're going to keep both. Maybe it's a new entry level boat to slot in below the Mondo? There has been a bit of a void now that the Outback V is gone.

I'd bet that it replaces the Mondo since it's using the Mondo Hull.

[tater]

I'd bet that it replaces the Mondo since it's using the Mondo Hull.

That's what I thought be interesting on where this falls price wise looked to have better features than the Mondo did you notice no analog gauges and the color screen set off to the right ?

[RickT]

Not replacing Mondo. Different design and price point

[jtatexc]

I have to ask, if a new 2016 has the color display on dash, why wasn't this offered on the brand new Craz?? Or even on the other mojo/mondo for that matter? I really would have liked to have that on mine, kinda bothers me

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[dlowe]

My guess is that it will be the an entry level boat with a base price just under $50K. Purely a guess but that is what the market is asking for.

[seftonm]

That's what I thought be interesting on where this falls price wise looked to have better features than the Mondo did you notice no analog gauges and the color screen set off to the right ?
I think it will be priced lower than the Mondo. From the description on a page that I found:

hefty list of standard features for a great day on the water and combines it with unique style at an industry best price

Sounds like price is somewhat of a focus for this model. I'm curious how they achieved it though, it looks like it still has some pretty good features.

[MJHSupra]

I think it will be priced lower than the Mondo. From the description on a page that I found:

hefty list of standard features for a great day on the water and combines it with unique style at an industry best price

Sounds like price is somewhat of a focus for this model. I'm curious how they achieved it though, it looks like it still has some pretty good features.

I agree. Price point with some good features.
20.5 feet. Raptor motor. Enough ballast for a good surf wake. Kicker audio.
The other things are probably simple on this boat.
Will be interesting to see the base price.

[jmvotto]

Why wait until after boat shows to release and not timed enough firths July August new 17 releases. Kinda strange timing on a boat you won't see or use this year

[That Guy]

Anxiously awaiting more info....unfortunately I'll be without internet until Sunday starting tomorrow. Eeek!

[mattsask]

I have to ask, if a new 2016 has the color display on dash, why wasn't this offered on the brand new Craz?? Or even on the other mojo/mondo for that matter? I really would have liked to have that on mine, kinda bothers me

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How frustrating is that! I haven't even taken delivery of my new craz and the technology on the dash is already old news.....I wonder if that new screen will be offered as a retrofit. That new model looks pretty sweet though.

[trayson]

Not replacing Mondo. Different design and price point

Well, there you have it! from the man himself!!!!!!!!!!!!

[That Guy]

Is it just me or do the sides looks taller/more vertical on the hull versus the Mondo?

[BrettLee3232]

It does look like a supra. I wonder why they are releasing at such an odd time. After boat show and a few months before the 17s come out.


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[sandm]

it says raptor motor 400-450 up top, but it lists a 360 as the base motor. guessing that there's now an engine choice below the 400 that is standard on most boats. interesting labeling by indmar to keep the raptor name no matter the engine "output". marketing is earning their pay. will be interesting to watch if people stop equating the raptor motor with the truck since iirc the truck is moving to the twinturbo ecov6 for the next gen and actually getting a bump in hp/tq from that motor.

will be interesting to see 2 similar 20ft boats competing from the same brand in the same "value" segment. Tige has the r20/rzr but the rzr is quite a bit upscale from the r20. I could see 2 20ft if 1 a moomba and 1 a supra but 2 moombas? intrigued to see what sets the mondo apart now.

[jtatexc]

How frustrating is that! I haven't even taken delivery of my new craz and the technology on the dash is already old news.....I wonder if that new screen will be offered as a retrofit. That new model looks pretty sweet though.
Yup. Completely agree.

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[jstenger]

I think the Helix should have stayed at 20' since it basically replaced the OBV. I also think they should have bumped the Mondo up to 21' just like they bumped the Mojo up. That would have given Moomba four boats at 20, 21, 22 and 23 feet.

[jstenger]

Is it just me, or does the bow on the helix look wider than the Mondo and Mojo?

[jstenger]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.moomba.com/devintatromh1234567

[seftonm]

I think the Helix should have stayed at 20' since it basically replaced the OBV. I also think they should have bumped the Mondo up to 21' just like they bumped the Mojo up. That would have given Moomba four boats at 20, 21, 22 and 23 feet.
A bigger Mondo could still be their plan. Maybe this one just came out before the next generation Mondo.

Joe, the bow does look bigger to me. But it's rated to carry one less person than the Mondo. So I'm not too sure what's going on yet.

[RickT]

Helix-Standard engine will be 400 Ford Raptor.

[Cody]

That tower though... :eek:

[DFTR Josh]

Nothing can be a surprise with technology these days, LOL! I might be the only person that is ok getting a new boat and not the leaked dash full of computers. This is the beauty of new toys and new wants and a sales. I can't wait to learn more about it and see it in person. GREAT JOB Skiers Choice...

[smorris7]

it says raptor motor 400-450 up top, but it lists a 360 as the base motor. guessing that there's now an engine choice below the 400 that is standard on most boats. interesting labeling by indmar to keep the raptor name no matter the engine "output". marketing is earning their pay. will be interesting to watch if people stop equating the raptor motor with the truck since iirc the truck is moving to the twinturbo ecov6 for the next gen and actually getting a bump in hp/tq from that motor.

will be interesting to see 2 similar 20ft boats competing from the same brand in the same "value" segment. Tige has the r20/rzr but the rzr is quite a bit upscale from the r20. I could see 2 20ft if 1 a moomba and 1 a supra but 2 moombas? intrigued to see what sets the mondo apart now.

Raptor 6.2 is around 360hp. The 400 was torque specs and was alittle misleading.

[mazzyel2162]

I swear I saw one of these on the lake in Clermont yesterday - near Trevor Hansen's house.

[JeffCook3]

How frustrating is that! I haven't even taken delivery of my new craz and the technology on the dash is already old news.....I wonder if that new screen will be offered as a retrofit. That new model looks pretty sweet though.

Same here... My new Craz is in production now. Suppose to take delivery in May. Already wishing that I had the color display!

[mattsask]

Raptor 6.2 is around 360hp. The 400 was torque specs and was alittle misleading.
Tige puts the 6.2 raptor 360 in their R series boats as a base engine instead of the 400. That's one of the big reasons I went with moomba over the tige R series.

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[KG's Supra24]

I'd rather have the 2" in width they added than the color screen.

Boat is not for me but I like several things it has going on. I would think a pickle fork, in that small of a boat, would sell better than a traditional nose.

[jmvotto]

I swear I saw one of these on the lake in Clermont yesterday - near Trevor Hansen's house.
Ed , pics or it didn't happen:o

Hmmm . We're not the Wolfe gang with trev and crew this past week:cool:

[MJHSupra]

Helix-Standard engine will be 400 Ford Raptor.

You must find it funny watching all speculation . . .

[smokedog2]

I find it funny that the entry price point is $50k. I've been running mine for 11 years and will likely never own another. Still good to see 20 foot boats coming back.

[BrettLee3232]

Man oh man, I hope this doesn't hurt my resale on my 15' Mondo. Looking to upgrade to a 17' Mojo but with prices 50-60k for a new boat, why would you buy a used one?


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[mazzyel2162]

JV....something going on in Clermont. Yesterday in the same location where I thought I saw the Helix, were 2 Supra SA World's edition (yellow and black) with some awesome riders behind one of em. The other appeared to be a chase boat.

No photos - I'm always in my car when I see them - about 100 yards away

[sivs1]

Website is updated but pricing listed is for the Craz. With the bow as big and open that it is I'm suprised it's not more pickle fork like my SA. So far all I can say is well done SC. Am sure Marine Products already has one or will soon, I'll have to check it out and report back.

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[13mobiusLSV]

looks like a baby SA. Very sharp looking boat.

[DFTR Josh]

I'm digging the dash work and opening up the line of sight for us drivers that use the windshield while driving.
http://moomba.com/sites/default/files/boats/2016%20HELIX/screen_shot_2016-04-12_at_9.55.59_am.png

[Pound]

Lol, the second i posted that i'd like to see better pics of the dash, you posted that pic Josh. haha.
I think i'd still prefer to have analog gauges too.

[trayson]

I'm digging the dash work and opening up the line of sight for us drivers that use the windshield while driving.
http://moomba.com/sites/default/files/boats/2016%20HELIX/screen_shot_2016-04-12_at_9.55.59_am.png

Where does the subwoofer go? Looks like it's all glassed in under the helm. I know you can cut holes and put boxes anywhere, but curious what the natural upgrade path is for a sub on this one.

Overall I love the look of it. the bow is huge. I'm still a fan of the playpen bow but it seems like everyone does the walkthrough now a days.

[viking]

It is a great looking boat imo.
Think they hit a home run but sales will tell.
My thoughts exactly on the sub as well Trayson. Wonder what is behind that wall and if they left an open cavity for an enclosure.

[mgswake]

This seems a bit deeper than the mojo. Will SC/moomba make this in a 22-23 foot size as well? Similar to nautique with the 210/230 and g21/g23. Or will you have to get the move into the supra line for the big deep boats?

[Cody]

Ok, it's growing on me. I like the dash and the design of the boat. The only thing that draws me away is the tower. Is there another option?

[icemanftr]

Such a fat ass compared to my LSV. Bet the surf is nice!


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[mikenehrkorn]

Website is updated but pricing listed is for the Craz.

Somebody must be watching the forum, cause the pricing is now fixed. :) Those of you who guessed $55k in the pool are winners!!

[goridedoo]

Looks like that tower is the only option which sucks! Was in a Mondo last week with the aviator tower, it is low clearance and makes the boat feel smaller! Only 4 cabin speakers?

[KG's Supra24]

Somebody must be watching the forum, cause the pricing is now fixed. :) Those of you who guessed $55k in the pool are winners!!

Base or modestly equipped?

[mgswake]

Base or modestly equipped?

I priced one at 67 with a fair amount of options. Probably safe to say mid 60's with options.

[dusty2221]

Base was about $54,900 it looked like and the S-Bend does not seem to be an option. Aviator only.

[rdlangston13]

Looks like the dash design is stolen from natique. Not a big fan of the center piece of the dash not being in the center, I understand the idea of a clear line of sight but I've never felt my cluster was blocking my view. The windshield frame yes, dash no. Other than that the interior speaker placement seems odd and I also wonder where you are supposed to put your subwoofer


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[goridedoo]

No wake pictures I guess?

[BrettLee3232]

Yeah RickT where's the money shots????


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[brain_rinse]

I LOVE THAT DASH! Will be fun to see how future models evolve. How about one size larger with a little more pickle fork style. I like boats with fangs.

[Dubwake21]

Hard ballast with those fill gauges?

[jmvotto]

Looks like the dash design is stolen from natique. Not a big fan of the center piece of the dash not being in the center, I understand the idea of a clear line of sight but I've never felt my cluster was blocking my view. The windshield frame yes, dash no. Other than that the interior speaker placement seems odd and I also wonder where you are supposed to put your subwoofer


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David, funny you should say that, another member and I were chatting and thought the same

Dash g23 nautique
Bow fs33 centurion
Rear end. Tige. Any model

Nice combo😎

[mgswake]

Helix is getting some positive vibes over on planet nautique. They had the same question I asked earlier. Any chance we see this boat stretched out to 22-23 ft?

[kaneboats]

I think this is more of an "entry" wakeboat like the wake tractor thingy but with a more realistic overall design. Kids these days want to use their tablet to drive and have somewhere to land their drone. Don't care about grandpa's analog gauges.

[devintatro]

Here are some more photos! Here is where you can have the Sub- By the feet under the driver helm area and a wake photo unweighted with about 3 or 4 guys.

Good shape wake!

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[Mobius22]

Nice! Wake does look good un-weighted.

[DFTR Josh]

Nice! Wake does look good un-weighted.
CRAP! Even the new Helix got wake pictures before I get my Craz weighted. Break in blues, LOL...

[BrettLee3232]

I like the front end just not as much as a pickle fork. Kind of reminds me of an old Placecraft deck boat...http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160415/0199f92a0eb989894a70afc114a2a2a9.jpg


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[DFTR Josh]

So how much does everybody really use the bow. I went pickle on my MB for the fact of more space but hardly used it. We don't have huge crews that go out riding so plenty of room for everybody in the cockpit. I can almost count on one hand when I had people riding in the bow full time. I really enjoy the Craz with the traditional bow (looks) but still seems to have a TON of room if I was going to use it. I never use the bow to load/unload people from the dock, heard that might be a popular reason to have the wider nose with non slip material. Just a curious question not trying to start a war/debate.

[KG's Supra24]

My daughter goes straight to the bow every time she gets in the boat. Wife does 75% of the time.

[07STI]

We use the bow when we're not surfing/wakeboarding. Kids tend to like sitting up there, as do the ladies. Someone is typically up there 30% of the time I'd say.

[Mrd8ker]

Kids and wife love the bow on the Mondo. Makes it really easy to drive! 😂

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[Ramzak]

Overall I love the look of it. the bow is huge. I'm still a fan of the playpen bow but it seems like everyone does the walkthrough now a days.

God, I hated the playpen on my supra!

Crawling around my boat like a child

[sandm]

I would not ever buy a boat with a playpen.. agree with ramzak on crawling around and the floor is valuable cooler space.
I don't think the seats in mine have had 5 hrs of use...

[MJHSupra]

Here are some more photos! Here is where you can have the Sub- By the feet under the driver helm area and a wake photo unweighted with about 3 or 4 guys.

Good shape wake!

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What was the water temp?

[MJHSupra]

I would say there is probably 10-20% of the time when someone is NOT in the bow. Typically when we are heading in on cooler nights. My buddies kids grab their food/drinks and head on up there for the whole day. They love the ride and the wind. Other times the women sit up there if they are not boarding and wanting to drink and catch some rays.

[viking]

Bow space is prime real estate for us. Wife and 3 daughters it's must and only real requirement from them. The rest was up to me :)

[jtatexc]

I am probably somewhere in the 50% range. Between my wife and friend (s) enjoying it for the sun because i refuse to not have the bimini up, i like the extra weight up there too for the wake so win/win. So us very much used

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[DFTR Josh]

Bow space is prime real estate for us. Wife and 3 daughters it's must and only real requirement from them. The rest was up to me :)
Now that I think a little... I used the bow every time in my MB. I put a 450 bag up there, would have fit traditional or pickle :rolleyes: Stoked the new Craz has 500 under the seats, not sure the bow will be used much now.
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[seftonm]

From Moomba's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BEOQ3i-khpD/

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[goridedoo]

So are we gonna get to see any wake/wave pictures other than the one posted here? Promo vid maybe?

[CFD3Captain]

Saw this today! So does this mean the boat is already in production??
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/13087479_629281713894433_6181048367965449518_n.jpg ?oh=d78f5e266e125603d3b95c29117ecbfd&oe=57BDAC08

[jtatexc]

Not sure what it is but that to me resembles the tige r20.

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[CFD3Captain]

Not sure what it is but that to me resembles the tige r20.

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It's a Helix at Denney Marine

[jtatexc]

It's a Helix at Denney Marine
I got that it's a helix. I am saying that to me it resembles a tige r20. The inside is much more spacious but in that pic I think they look pretty similar
Guess I worded it funny, should have said "not sure why" instead of not sure what it is :)

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[bluice311]

I wonder if the bimini could be put on the Mondo Aviator tower. That's the only thing I hate, it's definitely a two person job to put up/down.

[russellsmojo]

I would ride behind it.....dual axle trailer is a must though.

[CRAZy440]

I wonder if the bimini could be put on the Mondo Aviator tower. That's the only thing I hate, it's definitely a two person job to put up/down.

Agree there! Bimini is a huge pain in the arse with one person. It's gonna end up being up all the time. Even when stored. :) Now that I think about this more, I think you can roll up the material with the frame in place. Gonna try that tonight!

[icemanftr]

Pretty flat looking bottom. Wonder how surf will look on this.


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[That Guy]

I saw that boat and knew immediately it was Denny Marine from the dome building where he keeps his helicopter. Lol. And he's smart to get the boat in buckeye colors since so many Ohio people go down to Cumberland. I'll be down there in July and have to stop in and see one in person.

[ian ashton]

Is it just me, or does the trailer tongue look super long?

[DatTexasBoy]

Saw this today! So does this mean the boat is already in production??
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/13087479_629281713894433_6181048367965449518_n.jpg ?oh=d78f5e266e125603d3b95c29117ecbfd&oe=57BDAC08

This is a miniature version of my SA!!!

[DatTexasBoy]

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[DFTR Josh]

^^ So ready to session a 2016 Supra SA! ^^

[mcdye]

Is it just me, or does the trailer tongue look super long? They did change the length. I noticed it between my 13 and 14 model.

[Cam3sc]

So no video or pics of the surf wave or wake yet?

[icemanftr]

So no video or pics of the surf wave or wake yet?

Yeah pretty lame.

[seftonm]

Somebody posted surf wave pics near the bottom here http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=806175

But not sure where he got them or of they're actually from the Helix.