Craz or Mondo? Feedback from anyone with experience with both.

[zdm751]

I am new on here as I sold my 99 outback a while back and purchased a 05 centurion Avalanche. I have worked up a deal w my local dealer on a new 2016 mondo. I love the options, colors, and am working out details of getting a dual axle trailer instead of the single, as I like the look and peace of mind of double. They are selling my 05 Avalanche on consignemment and I have started 2nd guessing if I should go with the mondo or the new Craz. I was drawn to the Mondo because of the look, value, features, and it did not feel like a 20 or 21 ft boat. It feels roomier than my 22 ft Avalanche. But now I have looked into the pricing and with the dual axle trailers and options I want the price is no that much different. So I am looking for anyone's feedback that owns one or has had experience with one or both. I don't want to regret the purchase and wish I would have stayed at the 22 ft length. I love how deep the Craz is but we do tend to be on smaller lakes, some with smaller and shallow coves. We also have to go under bridges that are close on the clearance and the mondo seems like it would have a Lower height on the water w and w o the tower down. Also if anyone has a Craz w the aviator tower, can you post the height on trailer when it is folded. Need to fit in a garage w 8 ft door, but I am having this built so there may be possibility of getting slightly larger door. Please let me know if you think there is any benefits of either boats besides just size, such as ride quality, wakeboard and wake surf wake, handling, ect. Thanks for any help and direction you guys can help me with.

[Crane man]

I have not been in the craz so cant compare. I am commenting on the 8ft door. I have a 2015 mondo with the aviator tower and swivel racks. My garage door clearance is 8' 3". I have to remove the racks from the swivel bracket to clear the opening. I am o, a single axle trailer so that could be the reason but it would still be very close. Other than that I love my mondo. Coming from an 18 ft I/O it drives like it is small but can party like the big guys.

[JD14Mondo]

I love my mondo. Only complainant I have is it does not handle rough water very well. Not a big issue for me. Just slow down a little and can always find a calm cove. If you have limited storage space the mondo might have the edge.

[jtatexc]

I am one of the few on here that owns a craz and has been on both. If you aren't limited in terms of size and the few grand difference isn't that big of a deal then go the craz. Resale will be better as the 22' market is stronger and it does feel a bit bigger inside. The mondo is a great boat and if I had been worried about storage issues with the craz we would have gotten the mondo. They drive very comperable. The craz is very agile, you'd be impressed. Boils down to whether you also like the wider nose look of the mondo/mojo or traditional of the craz (I was impartial ). The craz takes rough water like a Cadillac. The garage issue door height could be an issue though, the craz isn't getting in an 8'door unless you remove the tension cables which I had to do. With the cables gone you have about an inch of clearance, with cables in it is about 8'4".(Aviator tower, I can't speak about the s-bend)

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[zdm751]

I love my mondo. Only complainant I have is it does not handle rough water very well. Not a big issue for me. Just slow down a little and can always find a calm cove. If you have limited storage space the mondo might have the edge.

Can you give me a little more details on your thought of the ride quality. We have a 15 month old and often take the family so I don't want to lose the ride quality I have now. in rough water can you set cruise on 16-18mph and push through it or do find the boat coming out of the water and slamming down? I'm hardly ever a hurry on the lake, so I'm good going as slow as the boat will go planed off but don't want to get slammed over waves. On the demo, at 2? Mph I was able to get the boat to come out of the water when going back through my own wave (ballast full) but if I slowed down to 15 or 16 it cut right through with almost no bump, to what I can remember. But I was the only boat out there on the demo.

[zdm751]

Having experience with both, how do you compare ride quality between the two. I think this may be the biggest factory in my decision. The boats are only 2-300 pounds diff and the length is only 18" or so more I didn't expect a big difference but that's why I am on here.

[JD14Mondo]

If it is very rough I slow down to 20 and it is no problem. The craz would be better in rough conditions. If money and storage is not a problem I would go with the craz or mojo. I learned to surf behind my friends 05 Avalanche. I love the wave my mondo makes (with the right ballast). It has more push than me friends boat. The reason I went with the mondo is I got a great deal at the end of the season and I wanted to be able to store it in my garage. You will not be disappointed with any Moomba!

[DFTR Josh]

Can you give me a little more details on your thought of the ride quality
Any boat can ride decent when slowing down and not bashing through. The Craz with the traditional bow will ride a bit nicer but you will still have to slow down for choppy days. I could blow around the lake about about 21-22 mph in my MB and still not slam the boat around with the use of the center plate. You might just be posting soon about a new Craz if space isn't an option.

[zdm751]

If it is very rough I slow down to 20 and it is no problem. The craz would be better in rough conditions. If money and storage is not a problem I would go with the craz or mojo. I learned to surf behind my friends 05 Avalanche. I love the wave my mondo makes (with the right ballast). It has more push than me friends boat. The reason I went with the mondo is I got a great deal at the end of the season and I wanted to be able to store it in my garage. You will not be disappointed with any Moomba!

Ok so reference would you consider the 05 Avalanche to have a better ride than the mondo, worse, or tough to tell? The Avalanche is the best rough water boat I have spent a bunch of time in so far. Mondo felt good but very limited in seat time compared to my Avalanche

[JD14Mondo]

I have spent a lot of time in my friends avalanche. It does ride a lot better in rough water. IMO my boats ride is just as good or better the rest of the time. But if you want a boat to handle rough water like your Avalanche the craz is what you need.

[jtatexc]

Could have just been in my head but I feel like the craz just feels noticeably bigger and more sturdy. The lake we frequent because it's very close is VERY choppy from both wind and population and the craz does a wonderful job. We have been nothing but happy with it.

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[BamaMojo]

Craz all day long


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[CRAZy440]

The Centurion boats are a deep V boat similar to a I/O so they will always work better in the chop and rollers than a flat bottom. However, that is all you will get. I just took out a Craz 2 weeks ago for test drive in 25 mph wind with white caps and at 20 mph the Craz was very smooth. It is one of the selling points to me. The Craz will out perform the Centurion in wakeboard and ski wake. Surf wake may go to the centurion that is their focus. Deep V boats will also create more of a valley before the wake which is horrible to ski or wakeboard on.

[zdm751]

I have decided I'm going to set a demo on a larger lake, hopefully this week as the wind should be strong. I like look of front of mondo and the size would be great for smaller coves, docks, and storage. I think I may leave mondo as a single axle trailer, as I haven't found anyone complaining about the single for normal weekend towing. This makes money difference a little more significant towards mondo.If I can set cruise around 17-20 and push through normal crowded weekend lake conditions, I will prob stick with the mondo. I just hate the feeling of the boat coming out of water through rollers and slamming back down.

[russellsmojo]

Just a thought. A 2014 mojo fits in an 8 foot door. You could pick up one with low hours.

[zdm751]

We just don't really need the size of the mojo and it seems mojo needs a lot of weight to get a great wave and wake. I like the mondo because it feels as roomy as my Avalanche despite being a little shorter. Actually feels wider and way deeper. i work for ford and want the raptor engine, which I wouldn't get in a 14 and I like the 5 year warranty, new surf tabs, rear facing bench seat, ect.

[jtatexc]

I always look at resale when making a big purchase because you just never know. The 22' market is by far the strongest. Also, while a single axle trailer will get it done, it's another thing that *could* pose an issue for a perspective buyer not to mention safety and piece of mind if you do elect to do a longer haul with it. My thought is that if you're gonna do a purchase this big do it right. We have had a small crew of 4 in the craz and didn't feel like it was too much room, but have also had 10 and been comfortable which was wonderful. The towing of the craz isn't all that much harder and it maneuvers just as good as the mondo. We have blasted some white caps in the craz and had no issues. I have a buddy who is notorious for bringing water in the boat and even he couldn't soak us. It's a very well built and designed craft and is great for any size crew. If you were dead set on the mondo in would say you're in good hands and congrats,but if you're between the 2 I see it hard not to go the craz route. My .02

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[DFTR Josh]

I will prob stick with the mondo. I just hate the feeling of the boat coming out of water through rollers and slamming back down.
You will LOVE your choice to go with the Mondo! Good driver and any chop you will be fine just not blasting through it. If you go Mondo fork the extra cash and go duel axel on the trailer. Even short hauls can turn into a nightmare with a single. What area are you from?

[zdm751]

Well I switched my demo to a Craz for Thursday. The mondo is in stock and I would be ordering the Craz. By the time I add the dual axle trailer on the mondo, and add a few options I wanted to Craz and remove a few things I didn't care for on the mondo, the money is so close I think I will go Craz for resale value in case I ever need to sale it. I am financing the purchase and the payment is so close. I also love the hull and deck of the boat, looks a lot like a new supra to me, which I like. Assuming demo goes well I will go ahead and get the Craz ordered. Excited about demo, seems like you can't find anything bad on the Craz

[jtatexc]

Cuz there is nothing bad haha ;)

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[zdm751]

Cuz there is nothing bad haha ;)

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Haha. I do appreciate your feedback though, def helped. Do you know how high the highest point is on your Craz when on the trailer, with tower folded? You have aviator tower right?

[jtatexc]

Aviator tower down it still sits higher than the windshield so it is in the 8'4" to 8'6" range. I just took off the tension cable so it drops fully below the windshield and fits in my 8' garage now. Easy to rebolt if down the road I want to but saved me the hassle of having to store somewhere else. Dealer agreed it was a simple fix and was the logical step if I didn't want have the lift/drop assist which I'm fine without

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[zdm751]

My Craz came in last Wednesday, have about 5 hours on it now, finally got in the water today. 72 degrees in NC. Played around w ballast and tabs today surfing. Rode for around 30 seconds 2x w no rope. I was never able to go ropeless w my centurion, so I am making progress. In love w the boat so far, color scheme turned out great, will try to post a few pics when I get a chance. To all of the Craz guys out there w factory ballast, what is your surf setup? For tabs and front and rear ballast.

[DFTR Josh]

My Craz came in last Wednesday, have about 5 hours on it now, finally got in the water today. 72 degrees in NC. Played around w ballast and tabs today surfing. Rode for around 30 seconds 2x w no rope. I was never able to go ropeless w my centurion, so I am making progress. In love w the boat so far, color scheme turned out great, will try to post a few pics when I get a chance. To all of the Craz guys out there w factory ballast, what is your surf setup? For tabs and front and rear ballast.
Congrats on the new Craz! We do have a Craz Owners thread in boat owners if you haven't joined into convo's. Also somebody made a suggestions thread of surfing a Craz and I think it's always at the top as a favorite. Hot damn, let's see the new boat :cool:

[07STI]

Congrats on the new Craz! We do have a Craz Owners thread in boat owners if you haven't joined into convo's. Also somebody made a suggestions thread of surfing a Craz and I think it's always at the top as a favorite. Hot damn, let's see the new boat :cool:

All correct. There's a sticky in the general chat called "Autoflow 2.0 settings"

I didn't have enough time prior to the end of the season last year to get my wave dialed in, and I'm still waiting on the weather in WI. I'm hoping to get out to work on the wave in the next 2 weeks...even if I can't ride yet.

[zdm751]

any problems adding pics from iPhone 6? Can't seem to get them to attach

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[BrettLee3232]

Great color scheme! 🖕🏻


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[zdm751]

Here is a couple more pics

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[zdm751]

Great color scheme! ����


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Thanks, I really didn't want white again, so went w black bottom, platinum top deck and sky gray and silver interior. Ordered the non skid flooring as well but Did not come in so I'm just waiting on it to come in now.

[DFTR Josh]

Thanks, I really didn't want white again, so went w black bottom, platinum top deck and sky gray and silver interior. Ordered the non skid flooring as well but Did not come in so I'm just waiting on it to come in now.
Sorry if this has been asked... Where are you from? My dealer just posted a pic of this exact boat in Utah. Looks damn good in person also.

[zdm751]

Triad NC. Dang, thought I had the only one w that color combo

[deckwork]

We picked up our Craz about 3 weeks ago only been out a couple times so far and have not had a chance to play yet as the water is still to cold.
I had the same concern about height, also have a 8 foot door with 7 foot 11 clearance under weather stripping, I have to take the swivel racks of but that only take 30 seconds then it fits with about an inch to spare.

[BrettLee3232]

Love it!


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