Mojo 2.5 is getting the Wake Makers Wave Control

[mmandley]

Wanted to start my thread on Beastia getting her new Auto Surf System.

This is the new System Wake Makers started selling earlier in 2015.

I plan to keep this up to date with all the changes to the boat dealing with this.

Monday the 7th she goes in to have the Manual Flow removed and the rear corners of the boat re-glassed in. I will try to get pictures of that process since I know the guy doing the work personally.

Then the system will be installed, so once we get on the water the tuning will begin.
Also the plan is we are upgrading the rear Ballast to custom rear bags, apx 1180 weight per side, this will only be in the V drive and not go under the seats like the current 1500s do.

Here is what Arrived today.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163104_zpslyeindsf.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163104_zpslyeindsf.jpg.html)

Opening Up was a little of a challenge as the box is not only taped closed but glued as well. Everything was packaged really nice with lots of soft Styrofoam insulation.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163048_zpsymfds3hz.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163048_zpsymfds3hz.jpg.html)

Lenco Tabs, control module, Push button interface controller, and cables.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163320_zps0b2jn5ut.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163320_zps0b2jn5ut.jpg.html)

Couple layers down are the actual tabs, pretty light weight, you can tell they are primarily aluminum.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163145_zpsxd02yovj.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163145_zpsxd02yovj.jpg.html)

[mmandley]

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163157_zpsf0scpbk3.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163157_zpsf0scpbk3.jpg.html)

Pretty stoked to say the least.

[costanza]

Right on!!! Good luck!! Looking forward to how you like it and how the wave compares to the flow....

[brain_rinse]

Very awesome. And I'm very jealous.

[icemanftr]

Can't wait to see results. You should also post up pics of no flow, with flow, and then of course new system.


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[mikenehrkorn]

No worries on the write up / review -- Mike is the best when it comes to providing all the info you could ever want.

[mmandley]

Can't wait to see results. You should also post up pics of no flow, with flow, and then of course new system.


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I have threads of this, I will pull them and attach them as well. it has videos of the Before and after Flow.

[BrettLee3232]

So it's no longer called Go Surf Assist?


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[DFTR Josh]

So it's no longer called Go Surf Assist
Pretty sure Wake Makers bought the design and renamed it.
Also pretty stoked to see this thread come alive with updates! Congrats on the upgrade...

[viking]

Right on..........Looking forward to the progress reports.
Gonna get it all done before the trek across the country I presume!!

[mmandley]

Yes she will be all set before the trip. Hopefully the Moderators change this thread Tittle to

Mojo 2.5 is getting the Wake Makers Wave Control.

Wake Makers pinged me this AM correcting me on my reference to Go Surf Assit lol. I don't blame them I need to call it the correct name and I didn't realize that was the official name.

I plan to have this dialed in before Memorial weekend with plenty of videos to post about the changes.

[trayson]

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163048_zpsymfds3hz.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/New%20Surf%20System/20160302_163048_zpsymfds3hz.jpg.html)



Looks like they're using the Heavy duty lenco actuator with the 2.25" stroke length. Good that they went for the heavy duty version over the standard.

[jmvotto]

does go surf assist exist or did WM acquire them?

Looks good mike, cant wait to see it.

[trayson]

does go surf assist exist or did WM acquire them?

Looks good mike, cant wait to see it.

My understanding is that they still exist. You can buy from them if you are going to have THEM do the install, but if you're going to buy the product and install it yourself (or have a local dealer install it), then they are having all of those sales through Wakemakers. So end user sales = WM.

http://www.gosurfassist.com/#!faqs/p9zp4

[mmandley]

Just doping an update, I got word today all my Gell work has been completed and they are mounting the new Wave Control today.

I also had my gell guy take pictures of what repairs need to be made if you have the Manual Flow and want to upgrade. Even though this is the Wake Makers Wave Control you would still have to complete this part to have the Auto Flow installed, or the WakeLand system installed.

[trayson]

Just doping an update, I got word today all my Gell work has been completed and they are mounting the new Wave Control today.

I also had my gell guy take pictures of what repairs need to be made if you have the Manual Flow and want to upgrade. Even though this is the Wake Makers Wave Control you would still have to complete this part to have the Auto Flow installed, or the WakeLand system installed.

Be careful with the "doping". Lots of pro athletes are losing their sponsorships taken away. I'd hate to see Wakemakers, Evolution, Exile and Moomba take away your deals when they find our you're doping.


That said, I was curious. Are you making more money by reselling your manual flow than it's costing you to get the fiberglass repairs for removing it? If it was a break even proposition, would there be room to have both the manual flow installed and the Wave Control also? (would the manual flow interefere with the location for the hinges no the Wave Control?)

I know that it would probably drive you crazy to have a redundant surf system on your boat that you weren't using, but I'm curious if it'd be an option for someone if they didn't want to go through the work/expense of removing the manual flow. Heck, I could actually seen that since flow is more on the side of the hull and wave control is on the bottom, that someone might even be able to do a combination of the two devices to tweak their wave...

Just thinking out loud.

[mmandley]

Be careful with the "doping". Lots of pro athletes are losing their sponsorships taken away. I'd hate to see Wakemakers, Evolution, Exile and Moomba take away your deals when they find our you're doping.


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I think you mean Lots of pro athletes are losing their sponsorship's.

No you can't combine the Manual and any other system. The Manual Flow sits are the bottom corners of the transom, the Auto System mounts to the same location but a different footprint.

I would think they would fight each other more then help each other due to the way the water is flowing off the hull.

[trayson]

I think you mean Lots of pro athletes are losing their sponsorship's.

So you're saying that when I am poking fun at your typo, that I shouldn't make an error in my sentence? make an error in my sentence? make an error in my sentence?

[kaneboats]

Looks like both of you guys are an error. :o

[mmandley]

Got the first of the spy photos in today.

I don't pick up the boat until Tuesday due to my schedule but here's what they sent me.

Controller, I used the spot for the original stereo remote, as I don't use the remote anyhow.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9939_zpsxzxfy9a2.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9939_zpsxzxfy9a2.jpg.html)

Brains mounted under the dash.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9943_zpspiztyiuy.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9943_zpspiztyiuy.jpg.html)

GPS unit, as I understand the system won't deploy unless the boat is moving, and it will Auto Home its self when the boat slows down for safety reasons.
The other small unit is the GPS for my Speed Control I installed last year.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9942_zpszm2zfots.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_9942_zpszm2zfots.jpg.html)

The adjustable plates, the boat hasn't been in the water yet, this is just the angles they installed it at.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_6939_zpsxq54vzvd.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/IMG_6939_zpsxq54vzvd.jpg.html)

[viking]

Looking good Mike! I think you made the right choice for surf systems.

I don't remember what GPS system you went with (or I don't remember the thread)? Did you go Nautic Logic or Perfect Pass? I ask because I'm eyeballing Nautic Logic from paddle wheel for simple/low cost GPS option.

Also, are you going to be able to use your ratchet trailer straps or are the tabs going to be in the way? Might have to add additional transom hooks?

[trayson]

Also, are you going to be able to use your ratchet trailer straps or are the tabs going to be in the way? Might have to add additional transom hooks?

Most people relocate the ratchets on the trailer. Also curious to what you end up doing on that.

[mmandley]

Looking good Mike! I think you made the right choice for surf systems.

I don't remember what GPS system you went with (or I don't remember the thread)? Did you go Nautic Logic or Perfect Pass? I ask because I'm eyeballing Nautic Logic from paddle wheel for simple/low cost GPS option.

Also, are you going to be able to use your ratchet trailer straps or are the tabs going to be in the way? Might have to add additional transom hooks?

I have the Nautic Logic GPS unit, love it.

For straps I will have to see, it looks like they might squeeze up the sides, the plates are 4-7 inches in from the edges and my straps sit pretty wide on the boat.
I will add extensions to the trailer if needed, I don't want to pay for any more gel work LOL.

[jstenger]

Is the Mojo fairly flat where the hinges are or do the hinges bend slightly so as to follow the curve?

[mmandley]

Is the Mojo fairly flat where the hinges are or do the hinges bend slightly so as to follow the curve?

I can answer that for sure Tuesday, but as I recall its pretty flat and smooth.

[mmandley]

Picked her up yesterday, gotta say they did an awesome job color matching the boat, they say the Grey is one of the harder colors to color match.

She looks awesome, delivered her in the rain after towing 40 miles, they cave her back spotless and even shines the tires up lol.

Hers the rear view, I don't have the swim deck on her yet, we should be hitting the lake 3/27 next Sunday for her first water test as long as the weather holds.

jstenger the rear isn't completely flat but the hinge points are pretty narrow and don't look to have any extra mounting plate, or modified surface. I will try to get some close up pics.

I think I will need to remove about 3 inches of the bunks now, the Wave Control plate hinges now drag on the bunks slightly, also the plates have a small turn down on the edges and this is resting on my bunks as well. Don't appear to be hurting anything but I just don't like the thought of the hinges for these holding any of the boats weight on the trailer.

Using the straps isn't an issue as the plates are mounted inward of the edge of the boat hull and this allows my straps to clear on the edges.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/20160316_111535_zpsxmjoszqx.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/20160316_111535_zpsxmjoszqx.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Moomba%20Mojo/20160316_111539_zpsaiaoxpwq.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Moomba%20Mojo/20160316_111539_zpsaiaoxpwq.jpg.html)

[smorris7]

Looking forward to your review!


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[jmvotto]

like to see them deployed if possible on the trailer

[parrothd]

Looks cool, looks like the channels are used to pull one side of the boat down and the other raises it..

Oops thought the fins/channels articulated but they're fixed in position, guess that was on the other model..

[mmandley]

like to see them deployed if possible on the trailer

Can't do that, they are GPS controlled, once the boat has stopped moving they interlock as a safety item.

[mmandley]

Looks cool, looks like the channels are used to pull one side of the boat down and the other raises it..

Oops thought the fins/channels articulated but they're fixed in position, guess that was on the other model..

If you mean the end tabs yes they are movable, I adjusted them to be pretty flat right now, as this is the position Wake Makers suggested I start with.

The edge fins are part of the plates.

[jmvotto]

Can't do that, they are GPS controlled, once the boat has stopped moving they interlock as a safety item.


drive 10 mph around the parking lot and take video from a trail car .... LOL

[jstenger]

That would be hilarious!

[mmandley]

drive 10 mph around the parking lot and take video from a trail car .... LOL

I think I will wait until I am at the lake and use the Go Pro LOL.

[icemanftr]

Looks nice man!!! Making me rethink when I went with flow surf.


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[KG's Supra24]

Those look great.

I agree, a parking lot video would be great for demonstration.

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[mmandley]

Those look great.

I agree, a parking lot video would be great for demonstration.

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With the plates sitting right at the bunk level, I am also worried this would cause stress on the hinges and damage something or cause cracking in my gel.

I read something recently where someone mentioned if people knew how much Gel was, my cost for just the gel to repair my boat was $200 then labor on top of that. Gel is pretty expensive.

[Flee27]

When is the big day?

[mmandley]

Looks like Sunday will be water day.
I got new Ballast also.

Custom 1180 bags for the rear that don't go under my seats.
750 IBS bag

Looking forward to testing them out

[Connolly_Crew]

Looks like Sunday will be water day.
I got new Ballast also.

Custom 1180 bags for the rear that don't go under my seats.
750 IBS bag

Looking forward to testing them out

Would love to see video of beastia with her new surf system!
Think we are getting wet Sunday at Lake Martin Al!

[jstenger]

Custom 1180 bags for the rear that don't go under my seats.

So are they basically taller and shorter 1100's?

[dusty2221]

I'd like to have some customs made, price reasonable? Mine go up under my seats and I don't really care for it. I have room for additional height that I think would put me close to 11-1200 without having to go under the seats. That's valuable storage space gained.

[mmandley]

The 1180s I got are taller then normal so it fills my V drive, I will get pics this weekend.

The bag size is
50x25x25

$229.99 is the bag price per side.
With fittings total is closer to $249.99

They are a reasonable price, I believe Wake Makers is making them now so the price has came down a lot.

[dusty2221]

I'll measure my lockers and get back to ya.

[mattsask]

The fly high 1100 pro x series jumbo v-drive sacs measure 50x24x24 and are only 189.99. Something to think about anyway...

[mmandley]

The fly high 1100 pro x series jumbo v-drive sacs measure 50x24x24 and are only 189.99. Something to think about anyway...

Yes this correct, the difference in these bags are true 1inch openings, also they are softer and easier to manipulate.
I just got them installed and they work great.

[mmandley]

Update!!

Got the boat out last Sunday, it was a short trip as the weather was windy, not exactly warm and storms were coming in the afternoon. I needed a lake day and so we made it happen.

Got to test out the Wake Makers Wave control.
That system is pretty legit, right from the git go no ballast you hit the left or right and instantly a wave came up, nice and clean.
The transition from left to right is only 3 seconds and you can feel the back of the boat fish tail side to side as you change the actuators.

This was the first time out, and so like always, more chatter, visiting, and being so happy to be on the lake then pictures happened LOL. I did get some so don't fret.

I will how ever keep updating this thread as the weather gets better here and I get more lake time as well.

First impressions on the wave, Regular was the wave is every bit as good as last years, with no lean in the boat now, also no 450 bag in my bow, so thats a huge plus. Driving the boat is pretty much the same, the biggest difference is since we weight evenly now, when the rider falls the boat is harder to turn around. Before I just turned to the direction I wanted and let the surf wave push me around. Now I have to steer the boat to that direction then come off the throttle to be pushed around.

Wave quality-Regular, which is always easy to bring up on the Mojo was excellent, tons of push, wave had a nice firm feeling, and even in the very back of the wave you could recover easily.

Wave quality-Goofy, which has always been the more difficult side, came right up, just as clean as the regular, no wash in your wave, and it also had tons of power.

I want to note I removed my wake plate add-on I made last year and ran the boat as intended.

Weight in the boat- 1K ish in both rears, the bags were new and not perfectly set aligned, so I didn't fill them completely. Normally it takes a fill and drain to get them to align perfectly in the V drives. Just needs a little adjustment.

Ran the 500 hard tank
New 750 IBS in the bow, apx 600 in it, couldn't fill it all the way as the Vent line is now too short, I need to extend it for the new bag.

Old weighting was apx 1500 rear, and 1500 front just different layouts for Reg and Goofy riders, so In respect to that, weighting was the same. My RPM on the boat was 3200-3300rpm which tells me it wasn't working any harder then before. Still had plenty of throttle power left if I needed it.

The Wave Control deploys as you speed up, and retracts as you slow down. In the future I will try to get a video of this. I also plan to get some comparison video of last summer vs this year with the system.

Claudia had camera duty, and while she took several hundred photos, and dozen videos for me, she left to GA for a week before uploading everything and its been a bear to get that data from her LOL.

Here is what I got so fare though.

Goofy

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_153736_zpsxjcopaxd.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_153736_zpsxjcopaxd.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_153730_zpsh1c4p967.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_153730_zpsh1c4p967.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_153720_zpsqngiwoqm.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_153720_zpsqngiwoqm.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_153719_zpszsypsskt.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_153719_zpszsypsskt.jpg.html)

[mmandley]

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_153254_zps9wow0rzb.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_153254_zps9wow0rzb.jpg.html)

Couple Regular

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_142249_zps67afksrm.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_142249_zps67afksrm.jpg.html)

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_142241_zps6hhqdnyu.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_142241_zps6hhqdnyu.jpg.html)

Wheel Time
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[mmandley]

And of course can't go boating without Oso
Hes getting grey like his old man. Can't believe hes 6 years old now.
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_142209_zpsppp3hefa.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/4-3-2016/20160403_142209_zpsppp3hefa.jpg.html)

[jtatexc]

Killer write up!I have a God friend toying with the idea from his calabria but isn't sure he wants to pull the trigger just yet. I'll show him this. Well done!

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[BrettLee3232]

Looks awesome! My buddy just got a new MB B52 23' & I look forward to surfing the GSA...I mean "Wave Control". Looks awesome!


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[mmandley]

Looks awesome! My buddy just got a new MB B52 23' & I look forward to surfing the GSA...I mean "Wave Control". Looks awesome!


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MBs are slightly different, I thought they were the same thing but Wake Makers said they are slightly different, the MB uses the GSA variant and its Stainless Steel, and the plates are slightly different.

PM me or post up what you find your ballast settings are and how it works for you.
The Exile boat is an MB and we are working on dialing in as well.

[viking]

Many might throw rotten fruit at me for saying this but I'd be interested in your fuel consumption if you dare to track it?
If you didn't before then it's moot since no reference point.

Most of what I've read is using these surf systems increases it more than just incrementally. Not a big deal if it makes a major improvement on the wave. If it only marginally improves or the same quality as listed wave then it's hard to fall in love with them at the cost. I get that some people (or spouses of some people) don't like to be/or drive a boat with severe lean. But a good wave is a good wave.
I know it's early yet but just another detail in the TO DO or NOT TO DO argument. Keep us posted!!

[smorris7]

Many might throw rotten fruit at me for saying this but I'd be interested in your fuel consumption if you dare to track it?
If you didn't before then it's moot since no reference point.

Most of what I've read is using these surf systems increases it more than just incrementally. Not a big deal if it makes a major improvement on the wave. If it only marginally improves or the same quality as listed wave then it's hard to fall in love with them at the cost. I get that some people (or spouses of some people) don't like to be/or drive a boat with severe lean. But a good wave is a good wave.
I know it's early yet but just another detail in the TO DO or NOT TO DO argument. Keep us posted!!

He mentioned that his rpm's at surf speed were unchanged from before. That should indicate fuel consumption would be the same. He was using the Flow from before though.

[mmandley]

Many might throw rotten fruit at me for saying this but I'd be interested in your fuel consumption if you dare to track it?
If you didn't before then it's moot since no reference point.

Most of what I've read is using these surf systems increases it more than just incrementally. Not a big deal if it makes a major improvement on the wave. If it only marginally improves or the same quality as listed wave then it's hard to fall in love with them at the cost. I get that some people (or spouses of some people) don't like to be/or drive a boat with severe lean. But a good wave is a good wave.
I know it's early yet but just another detail in the TO DO or NOT TO DO argument. Keep us posted!!

I do roughly track my fuel consumption, I tend to be in the 4-5gph range. I do plan to keep track the next few months on what I use.

I agree with you on the listing part, I don't mind listing to a point but for us what makes it even more convenient is I have a really mixed crew of goofy and regular riders, and now we don't have to make each person ride one side then wait for the other. We can just let the next person who is ready jump in. That is worth a Ton for me.

[jtatexc]

I do roughly track my fuel consumption, I tend to be in the 4-5gph range. I do plan to keep track the next few months on what I use.

I agree with you on the listing part, I don't mind listing to a point but for us what makes it even more convenient is I have a really mixed crew of goofy and regular riders, and now we don't have to make each person ride one side then wait for the other. We can just let the next person who is ready jump in. That is worth a Ton for me.
Having a mixed crew was probably my biggest justification on upgrading boats. I was so tired of switching back and forth. The lean I could care about but to be able to flip and switch is priceless. Being able to jump over from regular to goofy on my same ride is awesome!

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[viking]

Good point Mike. Didn't think of that since we all ride regular. Never occurred to me that people actually surf over there on the wrong side LOL
That would be a huge plus.

[KG's Supra24]

Ditto on the above, we needed a better way to switch sides.

jtatexc, have you successfully done a transfer?

[jtatexc]

Ditto on the above, we needed a better way to switch sides.

jtatexc, have you successfully done a transfer?
Ya I've gotten over a few times. I can't do anything special when I get over there, the objective is to really cut it up this summer on both sides. Pretty cool to be able to cross over though, especially because our last was a 10 minute transition

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[blackcup]

How does this system compare in price to getting the auto flow? I was quoted around 4500 after gel work and install of the new auto flow system.

Thanks

[mmandley]

How does this system compare in price to getting the auto flow? I was quoted around 4500 after gel work and install of the new auto flow system.

Thanks

Its hard to compare that statement, you have too many things pulled together.

You can compare the price of the unit.
You can figure install to be the same price on both
The Gell work would be the same price as it doesn't apply to the new unit, its only fixing damage from the Flow.

The difference is the Performance. SO is the performance worth the cost difference of the 2 units? IDK because I think they both cost the same, 3600-4K

I haven't ridden behind an Auto Flow boat yet, I haven't even ridden behind mine yet, so I can't answer that fairly.

Unfortunately I hurt my back pretty bad again a month ago and I am still recovering from that, so I don't want to risk injury by being pulled up by my boat right now.

I have been told by people who have ridden both that the Wake Makers system is better, the shape of the plates, the angles and the ridges they put in them to direct the water flow makes them a better cleaner wave. Like I said, I can't honestly comment as I haven't ridden both. I do plan to get time in more boats this year, last summer was a bad summer for me as I was working nights and put on 30lbs extra and could barely surf.

Now I have already lost that 30 and I am back at a manageable surfing weight again.

[mmandley]

Here is the Regular side, my bro Steve surfing.
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http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/th_20160403_150923_zpsnwn2vb4d.mp4 (http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/4-3-2016/20160403_150923_zpsnwn2vb4d.mp4)

Here is a couple comparisons, mind you the Wave Control is with Phone Camera and Flow is with Go Pro.

SO the aspects are different. I will get some with the Go Pro to do exact comparisons.

Wake Makers Wave Control

https://vimeo.com/162193618

Flow

https://vimeo.com/100844939

[mmandley]

Here is a little Goofy Side comparison.

This is same as above, the new video is on a cell and the other is on Go Pro

Wake Makers Wave Control

https://vimeo.com/162194986


Flow

https://vimeo.com/92054107

[blackcup]

Its hard to compare that statement, you have too many things pulled together.

You can compare the price of the unit.
You can figure install to be the same price on both
The Gell work would be the same price as it doesn't apply to the new unit, its only fixing damage from the Flow.

The difference is the Performance. SO is the performance worth the cost difference of the 2 units? IDK because I think they both cost the same, 3600-4K

I haven't ridden behind an Auto Flow boat yet, I haven't even ridden behind mine yet, so I can't answer that fairly.

Unfortunately I hurt my back pretty bad again a month ago and I am still recovering from that, so I don't want to risk injury by being pulled up by my boat right now.

I have been told by people who have ridden both that the Wake Makers system is better, the shape of the plates, the angles and the ridges they put in them to direct the water flow makes them a better cleaner wave. Like I said, I can't honestly comment as I haven't ridden both. I do plan to get time in more boats this year, last summer was a bad summer for me as I was working nights and put on 30lbs extra and could barely surf.

Now I have already lost that 30 and I am back at a manageable surfing weight again.

Cool thanks for the info ... looking forward to getting your opinion once you get some runs in

[blackcup]

Just got a price for the Autoflow 2.0 direct from Wakeland. Does $2785 sound about right? What is the price tag on the WM system?

[jstenger]

Just got a price for the Autoflow 2.0 direct from Wakeland. Does $2785 sound about right? What is the price tag on the WM system?
I didn't think Wakeland sold direct.

[mmandley]

Just got a price for the Autoflow 2.0 direct from Wakeland. Does $2785 sound about right? What is the price tag on the WM system?

$3999 unless you find a discount on it.

[blackcup]

I didn't think Wakeland sold direct.

PM sent jstenger

Thanks Mike - good to know. I will compare what you get with the two systems.

[trayson]

$3999 unless you find a discount on it.

Is that before or after the standard "forum 10% discount"? Or is the forum discount not being offered on it? I can't find pricing as they still have the 'backordered' call us verbiage up there.

If I remember correctly, didn't someone get the 20% off on the black Friday deal on the Wave Control? What did the Black Friday price end up being?

EDIT: I found reference to the Black Friday thread where they had it for $3,399 on that sale.

[c h r i s]

I didn't think Wakeland sold direct.

That was my understanding too. I got mine installed for $3k but it was the dealers first go at it so they cut me a break.

[mattsask]

They quoted me $3999.99 back in January.

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[trayson]

I want to note I removed my wake plate add-on I made last year and ran the boat as intended.



Based on your impressions thus far, do you think you'll put the A-plate back on, or do you think you'll be happy enough with the wavecontrol goofy that you'll leave it off?

[moombahighrider]

Is that before or after the standard "forum 10% discount"? Or is the forum discount not being offered on it? I can't find pricing as they still have the 'backordered' call us verbiage up there.

If I remember correctly, didn't someone get the 20% off on the black Friday deal on the Wave Control? What did the Black Friday price end up being?

EDIT: I found reference to the Black Friday thread where they had it for $3,399 on that sale.

Trayson, looks like you already found it, but I pulled the trigger on a Wakemakers wave control system on Black Friday/ cyber Monday. I still have not installed it yet (too busy doing winter sports to mess with it, once it finally showed up in mid/ late January). I did get the sale price you mentioned and it looked to be the best deal I was going to find on a system that gives one such control.

Really looking forward to getting it installed and dialed in, but I still have a bit of time before it will be boating friendly weather in my neck of the woods.

[mmandley]

Got a little more time on the boat Sunday to dial in the Wave Control system.

We are finding the lowest settings on the plates for the lenco tab is working best, it allows the system to deploy the most. I think in the long term I need to trim my bunks up so they don't extend behind the boat as I am nervous the tabs might be resting on them.

As for the Ballast, we only had 4 people in the boat and the wave had the best push with NO IBS loaded. We ran the 1280s in the V lockers, 500 hard tank and I also have 400 steel shot to level the boat out.

I expect when we run larger crews and we have more rear weight the IBS will be a bigger player, this I would expect to lengthen the wave even more.

Just can't say how nice it is now to just hit the fill on all the bags, let them fill and then push a button for whom ever wants to surf.

Crew is still getting used to it as I sacked the boat and said whos suiting up first. Both the guys asked which side is ready? I said I can push the button for either side lol.

Also end of the day we thought we were done when Steve surfed Regular, and then Ally jumped on from Brian boat and wanted to surf and shes goofy, so just hit the goofy button and off we went. Just can't express how legit that feature is.

I posted most of this video in the May thread but it belongs here as well.

As always ask any questions you like I will try to help, I think we are really getting this system dialed in.

Curtis
https://vimeo.com/165170571

Ally
https://vimeo.com/165170222

https://vimeo.com/165170379

Steven
https://vimeo.com/165170019

Little chase Videos
https://vimeo.com/165169974

https://vimeo.com/165169908

https://vimeo.com/165169684

[wiegs1]

Tried to send a pm but say mail box is full. Curious if you have pics of the repair needed after removing the manual tabs.