AutoFlow 2.0 Upgrade!!!

[BrettLee3232]

Has anyone updated from Gen 1 to Gen 2 yet? If so have you noticed a big difference? I just ordered mine & they said it's a direct swap out so should be an easy install.

I'm not upgrading the trim tab (yet)....that will be later if I need to. The manufacture said it was for better planning. Which I plan on upgrading my prop so that shouldn't be an issue anymore I wouldn't think...thoughts?

If anyone has surged both Gen 1 & Gen 2 can you please chime in on differences (if any)?

I look forward to upgrade!!!!


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[tubby]

I have been thinking of doing this myself. Did you order through the tab manufacter or skiers choice?

[BrettLee3232]

I have been thinking of doing this myself. Did you order through the tab manufacter or skiers choice?

I called the manufacturer direct. It's so hard to get a dealer to do anything for you especially at cost. Obviously they want to make money (which is totally understandable) but this is an easy swap out so I ordered direct. I would contact your dealer first to see if they can order it for you.


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[lsupcar]

More details please on ordering direct from the manufacturer. Who is the manufacturer and what is the contact info?
What is the price? What parts are included? Tabs and support arms?
Thanks.
Bill

[BrettLee3232]

More details please on ordering direct from the manufacturer. Who is the manufacturer and what is the contact info?
What is the price? What parts are included? Tabs and support arms?
Thanks.
Bill

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[Mg3playa]

This is a very interesting thread let us know how big of a difference upgrading to the auto flow 2.0 makes

[BrettLee3232]

Got my new blades today!!!!http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/16/11d8cf4dc9dfe6b2d5473622d9b5fefc.jpg

If weather holds up I'll be out at the lake Friday!


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[jmvotto]

Does the 1.0 have the angled channels to move water outwards

[BrettLee3232]

Does the 1.0 have the angled channels to move water outwards

No


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[13mobiusLSV]

Does the 1.0 have the angled channels to move water outwards

It does not.

[BrettLee3232]

Well installed the new blades today. All I can say is night & day difference. Wave had WAY more push and felt longer and cleaner. I'm a bigger guy @ 300lbs. When it was just my wife and daughter in the boat I could not go rope less. Today it was just me and a driver and I could instantly let go of the rope as if I had extra weight on surf side.

The new blade also fixed my goofy wave. Before it was completely washed out. Now it feels and looks great. Testing the goofy wave with me and a passenger on the boat (no rider) it was night and day better looking than before but still wasn't looking as good as I would hope.
Then I had my passenger move the ice chest and himself to the surf side and it cleaned up perfectly. I was really impressed.

Same goes for my regular wave as soon as I let my friend drive and I sat myself on the surf side it cleaned up perfectly. So I think I'm going to add a 250lb under sear bag to help when no one else is in the boat.

For the price I paid I couldn't be happier.'(until Flow 3.0 comes out) 😂


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[BrettLee3232]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/20/707f3e1e172967fb122b525e949be3f1.jpg


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[BrettLee3232]

P.S Blades were SUPER simple to install!!!!


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[jstenger]

Hope you didn't launch the boat with the socket still on that one nut!

[BrettLee3232]

Hope you didn't launch the boat with the socket still on that one nut!

Lol no I didn't, I noticed after I took the picture 👍


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[trayson]

Nicely done. I am loving the results you're getting. How much total weight are you running?

Also, are you thinking about likewise upgrading to the new HUGE wakeplate?? I looked at a Craz last night and it's a crazy big wakeplate!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4VB79sEut_U/VlErR7KARgI/AAAAAAAAa2E/rCGYYDfg-9w/s800-Ic42/20151120_204543.jpg

[BrettLee3232]

Nicely done. I am loving the results you're getting. How much total weight are you running?

Also, are you thinking about likewise upgrading to the new HUGE wakeplate?? I looked at a Craz last night and it's a crazy big wakeplate!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4VB79sEut_U/VlErR7KARgI/AAAAAAAAa2E/rCGYYDfg-9w/s800-Ic42/20151120_204543.jpg

Thanks man, so far I'm running 3k...900s in rear 500 hard tank & 750 ibs. I want to add another 250lbs under port seat.

I was thinking of upgrading the wake plate but when I spoke with the manufacturer he said "the old style was made by a different manufacture so the new one won't fit the existing bracket".

You would have to do some glassing etc.

Not sure if it would be worth the money for that. Basically he said it helps with planning the boat. Doesn't do much for the shape of the wake.


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[jstenger]

Thanks man, so far I'm running 3k...900s in rear 500 hard tank & 750 ibs. I want to add another 250lbs under port seat.

I was thinking of upgrading the wake plate but when I spoke with the manufacturer he said "the old style was made by a different manufacture so the new one won't fit the existing bracket".

You would have to do some glassing etc.

Not sure if it would be worth the money for that. Basically he said it helps with planning the boat. Doesn't do much for the shape of the wake.


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The width is the same. I believe the hole pattern is the same. If not, 5200 would easily fill the old holes, and the bracket would cover them.

[BrettLee3232]

The width is the same. I believe the hole pattern is the same. If not, 5200 would easily fill the old holes, and the bracket would cover them.

The holes are not the same (per the manufacturer). I'm not sure if it's worth it or even the cost of it.


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[soonerbilly]

OK so where are the money shots........?

[BrettLee3232]

OK so where are the money shots........?

It was only me and my buddy so the only photo I got was this for some reasonhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/22/9fe55d8360891500eb5fee6c3716582f.jpg


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[soonerbilly]

Picture looks decent......is that with 3000#'s? Seems like you should get more with that kind of weight.

[BrettLee3232]

3k ballast but only a driver. As soon as you add 150+lb surf side wave gets HUGE....http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/23/423b7173590a63af5e36e9a1920fe5b3.jpg


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[BrettLee3232]

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That'ss with 3k + 150lb passenger


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[That Guy]

Looks like fun!!

[CFD3Captain]

brettlee, I sent you a PM! Wave looks great and I'm interested in learning a little more

[Mg3playa]

Thanks for the info I gonna take my boat in for service and order those 2.0 plates. That surf wake looks good

[Mg3playa]

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That'ss with 3k + 150lb passenger


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How much did the 2.0 blades cost you?

[trayson]

Thanks man, so far I'm running 3k...900s in rear 500 hard tank & 750 ibs. I want to add another 250lbs under port seat.

I was thinking of upgrading the wake plate but when I spoke with the manufacturer he said "the old style was made by a different manufacture so the new one won't fit the existing bracket".

You would have to do some glassing etc.

Not sure if it would be worth the money for that. Basically he said it helps with planning the boat. Doesn't do much for the shape of the wake.


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Well, in that case, I'd agree. I know that with 3k in my boat with the 340 engine and the right prop, that I don't complain about the time it takes to get on plane wakesurfing as long as we can hit it with a little assertiveness on the throttle. (i.e. a gentle pull will inherently take longer to plane)


brettlee, I sent you a PM! Wave looks great and I'm interested in learning a little more

Me too. Check your PM's Brett and get back to me. Thanks buddy!!

[BrettLee3232]

PMs sent


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[cpropes2005]

Could you PM me the details too? :) Just looking for the contact info for who you dealt with at the factory and possibly the price you paid if you don't mind sharing.

[BrettLee3232]

Could you PM me the details too? :) Just looking for the contact info for who you dealt with at the factory and possibly the price you paid if you don't mind sharing.

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[jstenger]

Me too please. Thanks.

[BrettLee3232]

Me too please. Thanks.

PM sent 👌


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[Alerberg]

I just called Midwest WaterSports to see what an upgrade would cost on a 2015 Moomba Mondo going from Gen 1 to Gen 2 AutoFlow. They said it would cost $1500 for the surf plate and actuator upgrade. Is this what everyone else is seeing? It seems high to me, but everything seems to cost a lot after buying this boat.

Thanks....

[Alerberg]

FYI... The $1500 number I was quoted is just the new surf tabs and hydraulic arms, not the wake plate.

[Alerberg]

Sorry to Pile on... Can you PM me as well that info! Thanks!

Al

[BrettLee3232]

Sorry to Pile on... Can you PM me as well that info! Thanks!

Al

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[jstenger]

FYI... The $1500 number I was quoted is just the new surf tabs and hydraulic arms, not the wake plate.
I don't think you need new actuators.

[Mg3playa]

PM sent


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PM me too

Dealer telling me $1400 just for surf blades

[BrettLee3232]

PM me too

Dealer telling me $1400 just for surf blades

PM sent


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[cr222]

Can you PM me as well that info! Thanks you!

[BrettLee3232]

Can you PM me as well that info! Thanks you!

PM sent


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[tubby]

Brentlee, any chance you could PM some of the info you have of adding 2.0

[tubby]

Does anyone have contact information on getting their hands on the 2.0 upgrade. I'm looking to upgrade the 1.0 tabs and have tried emailing and calling wakeland with no response.

[13mobiusLSV]

Bump

Someone want to help this guy out? He's posted on multiple threads trying to get info on 2.0

[trayson]

Bump

Someone want to help this guy out? He's posted on multiple threads trying to get info on 2.0

I've heard from others that Wakeland MFG isn't great about returning calls or emails. It sounds like he already has their contact info, so can't say there's much we could offer beyond that. I suppose he could try going through a dealer, but not sure that would yield any more success than he's had thus far...

[tubby]

Trayson (thanks for replying) you are correct, wakeland is not the greatest in returning calls. I was hopeful that brentlee or others have another contact inside wakeland other then the provided number. I can't believe they would offer direct purchase without a shopping cart option. I haven't had such a difficult time trying to give a marine company money.

[BrettLee3232]

Brentlee, any chance you could PM some of the info you have of adding 2.0

PM Sent.

Sorry it took so long 😳


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[dand393]

can anybody tell what actuator they use for the 2.0

[BrettLee3232]

can anybody tell what actuator they use for the 2.0

Same as the 1.0 lenco I believe


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[Brians]

Could you PM me the details too? :) Just looking for the contact info for who you dealt with at the factory and possibly the price you paid if you don't mind sharing.

Brett could you please PmM the info to me too please. Thanks

[evoimport6]

Sorry Brett but I would love the info as well

[tubby]

I will share my experience. Call the Wakeland mfg number from the website (never had luck with email) ask for the 2.0 upgrade. Pretty standard set pricing. I believe they just fill orders when their factory orders are caught up (5 weeks for me). You pay when they ship. Had the best luck calling in the a.m......... goodluck!

[Brians]

I will share my experience. Call the Wakeland mfg number from the website (never had luck with email) ask for the 2.0 upgrade. Pretty standard set pricing. I believe they just fill orders when their factory orders are caught up (5 weeks for me). You pay when they ship. Had the best luck calling in the a.m......... goodluck!

Tubby. Was wondering if you could pm me what the cost was? Thanks

[KG's Supra24]

No wonder we needed larger inbox sizes.

Good insight Tubby

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[Brians]

Thanks everyone for the tips. I called today and they asked me to email my request in. (I anticipate they are getting a lot of inquires). Hopefully I hear Back.

[tubby]

Good to hear. It took 5 weeks to get the order shipped and I called weekly to follow up (squeaky wheel). Finally installed today and went flawlessly thanks to the help of 13mobiuslsv.

[Derrick]

Has anyone put the autoflow 2.0 on an LSV yet? If so, how were the results?

[13mobiusLSV]

Has anyone put the autoflow 2.0 on an LSV yet? If so, how were the results?

There was a discussion on this sometime over the summer. Matt Brown chimed in, there's a kit I believe you can get ahold of through your dealer. To the best of my knowledge I've not seen anyone with a 2.0 or 1.0 for that matter on any LSV.

[jstenger]

I know my dealer sold a 2015 LSV with Autoflow 1.0 last year. I have yet to find out who it is or how he liked it. I also know that Wakeland sells the 2.o plates direct if you have an LSV with the 1.o system.

[pslitty]

Anyone know if this can be added to a 2008 XLV?


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[reeder]

Hi BrettLee, just wondering with this system if are you able to switch surf sides on the fly? Are the actuators fast enough?

[BrettLee3232]

Hi BrettLee, just wondering with this system if are you able to switch surf sides on the fly? Are the actuators fast enough?

Yea you can...but I'm not good enough yet haha. But it's plenty fast.


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[trayson]

Anyone know if this can be added to a 2008 XLV?


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I was told by the mfr that they would in April.

[pslitty]

Who should I contact? Mfg or third party? Thanks in advance!


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[trayson]

Who should I contact? Mfg or third party? Thanks in advance!


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They aren't great at replying, but:
http://www.wakelandmfg.com

[mmandley]

I would honestly look into the Wake Makers Wave Control, you can follow my thread for more details.

It also has the ability to switch sides in 3 sec, comes with a rider remote so the rider can control the switch.

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?27499-Mojo-2-5-is-getting-the-Wake-Makers-Wave-Control

[c h r i s]

Who should I contact? Mfg or third party? Thanks in advance!


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I spoke with the Wakeland guys a couple times with questions before I pulled the trigger. I didn't have too hard of a time getting a hold of them with the number on their website. I only needed to call them direct because the nearest dealer is new to Moomba and couldn't answer my questions. Based on the timeliness of the dealer's quote I'm guessing they didn't have too tough of a time getting ahold of Wakeland, but I will say it took some time to get the call from my dealer that the kit was in for install.

Wakeland can't/won't sell direct to you, so the best course of action is to hit your dealer up and see what it will cost to have them install the system.

Wakelands system is what the factory uses for OEM, but it does not have the wireless remote for switches. Pretty sure it will be cheaper though, even after install.

I'm leaving tomorrow AM to take my Mojo to the dealer to have it installed. Will update with any good, bad or ugly once it's complete.

[c h r i s]

Install is complete, have yet to see it in person but the dealer sent a pic. Should be able to pick it up next week.

Before:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160401/8a4249fd0e12bff944e90135fd2431e5.jpg

After:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160401/9531019c9dd20f16d5d5b1d8ca806258.jpg

[BrettLee3232]

Looks good Chris, did you get the WakeLand Surf Control? Or just the standard Auto Flow toggle switch?

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[c h r i s]

Not 100% sure, haven't picked it up yet, but I was expecting it to have the wakeland control you posted.

[BrettLee3232]

I like the look of that compared to the toggle switch. I hope they switch to that in 17.


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[griffousa]

Looks cool. Just had the same 2.0 install on a 2014 LSV, along with a 450lb bow bag linked to the IBS. Both the dealer (A&S Boats in CT) and SC were great. A nice 1/2" shim on the swim platform so that it could clear the actuators, rather than cutting the platform.

[jstenger]

Looks cool. Just had the same 2.0 install on a 2014 LSV, along with a 450lb bow bag linked to the IBS. Both the dealer (A&S Boats in CT) and SC were great. A nice 1/2" shim on the swim platform so that it could clear the actuators, rather than cutting the platform.
Please get us other LSV owners some good pics.

[griffousa]

Travelling this week, but will take pictures and post on my return this weekend.

[yukon2007]

Today I received my Autoflow 2.0 surf tabs for my 2015 Mondo. Looking forward to the 'extra push!. Travis from Wakekand assures me there is a noticeable difference. When things warm up I will post pics.

[BrettLee3232]

Today I received my Autoflow 2.0 surf tabs for my 2015 Mondo. Looking forward to the 'extra push!. Travis from Wakekand assures me there is a noticeable difference. When things warm up I will post pics.

You'll like it. I immediately noticed more push in the wave.

[seftonm]

Today I received my Autoflow 2.0 surf tabs for my 2015 Mondo. Looking forward to the 'extra push!. Travis from Wakekand assures me there is a noticeable difference. When things warm up I will post pics.
Did you order from wakeland? How long did it take? Thinking of getting a slightly used 2015 and will probably do that upgrade if I do.

[yukon2007]

I ordered from Wakeland and it took about three weeks. Where I was really impressed with was the packaging. They really took the time and effort to ensure they would arrive in perfect shape.

If you (or anyone else) are interested I am selling the old ones for $100.00 plus the actual shipping costs. You could take them to a fabricator and have them weld to the bottom an aluminium plate that reduplicates the size and shape of the new Auto Flow 2.0 plates. It would be substantially cheaper than buying new surf tabs.

[BrettLee3232]

Did anyone else get some free WakeLand Koozies?


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[blackcup]

Pulled the trigger on the 2.0 upgrade as well ... should arrive next week and be installed shortly after that. Looking forward to seeing the difference in the wave!

Also will have the manual flow for sale once it is done.

[jstenger]

Travelling this week, but will take pictures and post on my return this weekend.
Where are the pics?

[seftonm]

Got my updated plates, hoping to install next weekend!

For people who upgraded from Auto Flow 1.0 to 2.0, how do you hook up your transom straps? It looks like the new bigger plates will be in the way.

[tubby]

I cut a slit in a pool noodle, attack to the tab to not chaf the strap,and not tighten as much. The only picture I have is this one with the old tab but you get the idea.24260

[Jeepers]

The holes are not the same (per the manufacturer). I'm not sure if it's worth it or even the cost of it.


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Try adding a set of Bennett Drop Fins to the older style wakeplate. I have a set on order to install with my autoflow 2.0 retrofit kit from Wakeland. The drop fins add more surface area and is equivalent to 1 size larger trim tab.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C2331321%7C2331349%7C2331353&id=2393734




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[aerolland]

Try adding a set of Bennett Drop Fins to the older style wakeplate. I have a set on order to install with my autoflow 2.0 retrofit kit from Wakeland. The drop fins add more surface area and is equivalent to 1 size larger trim tab.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C2331321%7C2331349%7C2331353&id=2393734




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I am no expert by any means, nor do I own a setup with surf tabs, but the more I research and *think* I understand how the systems work I have to wonder if the drop tabs will hurt performance...

All the surf systems accomplish basically the same thing, create drag. This drag makes the boat crab sideways through the water and essentially makes one side of the boat longer than the other, thus making the wave converge on the short side. If you add a device at the transom that has vertical fins digging in, I would think it would counteract that crab motion.

All that said, it's just theory :)

[Jeepers]

I am no expert by any means, nor do I own a setup with surf tabs, but the more I research and *think* I understand how the systems work I have to wonder if the drop tabs will hurt performance...

All the surf systems accomplish basically the same thing, create drag. This drag makes the boat crab sideways through the water and essentially makes one side of the boat longer than the other, thus making the wave converge on the short side. If you add a device at the transom that has vertical fins digging in, I would think it would counteract that crab motion.

All that said, it's just theory :)

That's exactly what Mastercraft did with their Gen2, and SC did with autoflow 2.0 tabs. The drop fins actually work by keeping more water channeled under the tab for a longer period of time, increasing their effectiveness. They also reduce spray from the tab.

So if I'm trying to duplicate the larger size of the new tabs, the drop fins will help me do this. In addition, if I can reduce turbulence of the water coming off the plate I will have a cleaner wave.

If it doesn't work, I can just unbolt it and I'm only out $28.




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[stevemarich]

Got my updated plates, hoping to install next weekend!

For people who upgraded from Auto Flow 1.0 to 2.0, how do you hook up your transom straps? It looks like the new bigger plates will be in the way.On a 17 so I have the hooks on swim platform, but I used gates hydraulic hose sheath to cover the strap, pretty clean , seems to get the job done, no wear so far https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/61ce0ac9b86787166feef060df1e3c19.jpg

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[Surf Wagon]

Does everyone use transom straps?

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[BrettLee3232]

Does everyone use transom straps?

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I don't. But I only tow maybe 1 mile round trip. I kind of wish I had them for when I tow to the dealer 3 hrs away though, but I don't (knock on wood)


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[Surf Wagon]

My sales rep said I don't need them. They couldn't stop a 5000# boat from going wherever it wants.

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[BrettLee3232]

My sales rep said I don't need them. They couldn't stop a 5000# boat from going wherever it wants.

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It won't in an accident, but for mumps down the road I think it helps keeping it straight on the rungs.


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[beat taco]

They'll actually help considerably if you get rear ended. The goal is to keep the boat out of the passenger compartment of your vehicle. The rest is just an insurance claim so actually I don't strap it to protect my boat at all.

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[Jeepers]

That's not true. At least not anymore. I just ordered the complete Autoflow 2.0 system direct from Wakeland MGF for my 08 LSV. Revived it right to my house in 3 days. They even said they'd walk me through the install over the phone if ran into any issues.

[Jeepers]

Sorry. I should have finished reading the entire thread.

[996scott]

That's not true. At least not anymore. I just ordered the complete Autoflow 2.0 system direct from Wakeland MGF for my 08 LSV. Revived it right to my house in 3 days. They even said they'd walk me through the install over the phone if ran into any issues.

please keep us updated on how the install is going, I have an O7 LSV and am very interested in getting one. I would love to see how it goes.

[Jeepers]

please keep us updated on how the install is going, I have an O7 LSV and am very interested in getting one. I would love to see how it goes.

Absolutely. I haven't wanted to take it out of the water to do the install. This late in the season with soccer starting up, it'll probably end up being a winter project.


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[SorryCharlie]

I pm'd you hoping to get more info on this?

Wakeland says they don't sell direct to customers, go to your dealer. I called Atlanta Marine and they said they have never installed one and don't know anything about it. I emailed Wakeland again, and they said that Atlanta Marine just installed one this fall. LOL, the blind leading the blind.
:???:

[smorris7]

I pm'd you hoping to get more info on this?

Wakeland says they don't sell direct to customers, go to your dealer. I called Atlanta Marine and they said they have never installed one and don't know anything about it. I emailed Wakeland again, and they said that Atlanta Marine just installed one this fall. LOL, the blind leading the blind.
:???:

I’m pretty sure that wakeland makes the OEM Flow products on current Moomba’s.


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[c h r i s]

I did the wakeland on my 2013 mojo. Works well, but it takes 3500lbs of ballast. Had to have the dealer install. Approx $3-$3.5k. I went with wakeland because it did not void my hull warranty. Mmandley did the wakemaker system with some good success. I would consider the wakemaker over the wakeland IF it had an infinite dial adjustment. My wakeland system only has 5 settings, of which I’m either using the 3 or 4 setting for the best wave.

[Jeepers]

2008 LSV Wakeland Systemhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171124/4447c5cc4f1668b20d9b5cead5f1e8d1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171124/d6be20e7057f7af21c073bdb257b7c3f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171124/efdf7aa51c841ca50e54559c68c496e8.jpg

Just installed.

Sorry for the poor pic quality.


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[996scott]

looks great jeepers. did you do the install? was it pretty easy? Did you have to modify your swim deck? I have heard some people say they had to make some modification to make room for all the equipment.

[Jeepers]

looks great jeepers. did you do the install? was it pretty easy? Did you have to modify your swim deck? I have heard some people say they had to make some modification to make room for all the equipment.

I had planned to do the install. However, I ended up having my local shop do it. They did it for under $500. No modification to the swim deck or anything else. Direct fit. Wakeland’s System is model specific.


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[MJHSupra]

looks great jeepers. did you do the install? was it pretty easy? Did you have to modify your swim deck? I have heard some people say they had to make some modification to make room for all the equipment.

I know a different boat, on my 2007 SSV I had to put some spacers on top of the swim deck brackets. Probably 1/2" for the actuators not to hit. I have a pic floating around somewhere.

[Barber]

Looking to upgrade my 2014 Moomba Mobuis LSV to the Flow 2.0 Tabs. Any comments or suggestions?

[Barber]

CAn you provide me with any additional details about where you purchased tabs, cost etc? Looking to upgrade my 2014 Moomba Mobuis LSV. Thx

[Jeepers]

CAn you provide me with any additional details about where you purchased tabs, cost etc? Looking to upgrade my 2014 Moomba Mobuis LSV. Thx

Call Travis Turley at Wakeland MFG. *(865) 599-5221‬, [email protected]. You buy them directly from Wakeland, they ship them to your door. Since you already have the brackets, the new plates will be super easy to install.


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[SorryCharlie]

I had planned to do the install. However, I ended up having my local shop do it. They did it for under $500.

Where's your shop? That's a fantastic price for install!!

[Jeepers]

Where's your shop? That's a fantastic price for install!!

Spokane, WA: Alpine Haus Marina


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[Jeepers]

Just thought I’d update my experience with the Wakeland mfg gen2 surf tabs. To recap; 08 LSV, acme 2315 prop, 1100’s each rear, 500 locker, 600 IBS + 100 lead, 300 lead mid ship. I had great success with the Mission Delta, just hated having to switch it and remember the best location. In addition, it occasionally would pop off.

This is the first season with the Wakeland system and I couldn’t be happier! Regular side wave was super easy to dial in, goofy side was a bit more difficult but we eventually got it; Though not as clean as regular. The wave is slightly larger. However, I think this is due to being able to fill rear ballasts all the way. With the mission delta, I still had to list the boat slightly to the surf side. The wave is definitely cleaner and longer with considerably more push. Once I got each side dialed in I programmed the settings into the Wakeland module. It switches sides super fast and effortlessly.

I’m quite impressed. It’s obviously not a cheap endeavor. However, a dealer friend of mine said I would make back every penny when I eventually sell or trade in the boat (we’ll see about that).

Hope that helps.


Here’s a picture of my 12 year old just getting up. Ballast was set about 50% to tame the beast a little for him.

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[MJHSupra]

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[MJHSupra]

Just thought I’d update my experience with the Wakeland mfg gen2 surf tabs. To recap; 08 LSV, acme 2315 prop, 1100’s each rear, 500 locker, 600 IBS + 100 lead, 300 lead mid ship. I had great success with the Mission Delta, just hated having to switch it and remember the best location. In addition, it occasionally would pop off.

This is the first season with the Wakeland system and I couldn’t be happier! Regular side wave was super easy to dial in, goofy side was a bit more difficult but we eventually got it; Though not as clean as regular. The wave is slightly larger. However, I think this is due to being able to fill rear ballasts all the way. With the mission delta, I still had to list the boat slightly to the surf side. The wave is definitely cleaner and longer with considerably more push. Once I got each side dialed in I programmed the settings into the Wakeland module. It switches sides super fast and effortlessly.

I’m quite impressed. It’s obviously not a cheap endeavor. However, a dealer friend of mine said I would make back every penny when I eventually sell or trade in the boat (we’ll see about that).

Hope that helps.


Here’s a picture of my 12 year old just getting up. Ballast was set about 50% to tame the beast a little for him.

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Jeepers - when did you purchase your system?

I know they made some changes to the size of the tabs and the actuators over the years.

[Jeepers]

At the end of last season. They are the larger Gen2 tabs and actuators. They actually included the small gen1 tabs at no additional cost.


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[MJHSupra]

At the end of last season. They are the larger Gen2 tabs and actuators. They actually included the small gen1 tabs at no additional cost.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProThanks. They looked like the bigger tabs.

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[Jeepers]

Saw this for sale on Great Lakes Skipper! All you’d need to buy is the lenco actuators and the lectrotab controller which is who builds the controller for wakeland mfg.

https://greatlakesskipper.com/wakeland-boat-autoflow-surf-plate-r0604b-moomba-moebius-lsv-kit

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[mmandley]

I have the same surf system, and I ordered the Mission Delta, Spencer with Wake Maker is saying use both and the wave gets really crazy nice.

Thats how he is running his personal boat.

[Jeepers]

I’ve been thinking about trying that. I used the mission delta last year and was happy with the results. I’ve spent this summer fine tuning the auto flow 2.0 system I installed in the fall. I’ll have to give it a try.


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[Jeepers]

Got the Autoflow 2.0 dialed in!! Only got pics of the goofy wave.

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[Leebo]

Looks awesome! Slammed to the rub-rail!

[larry_arizona]

Got the Autoflow 2.0 dialed in!! Only got pics of the goofy wave.

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Very nice wave, but quick random question......is it legal in your state to sit on top of sundeck while boat is moving?

Just curious as in Michigan that is a violation.


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[Jeepers]

It is. The sheriff is routinely out on the lake and I even asked him to make sure.


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[Isaguel]

Picked up boat today. Rushed to get the new 2.0 surf tabs installed. Cant wait to see the effect on the wave. Thanks to Travis Turley at wakeland mfg for the prompt service and delivery. Tabs arrived within 3 days of payment. The new tabs make the 1.0 tabs look minuscule. Now, can't wait for the Minnesota warmup this weekend. Its supposed to reach a sweltering 65 degrees on Saturday. My daughter surfed last weekend on 54 deg water temp. We do have wet suits.

[SorryCharlie]

Well, have you been out yet? Any pics?