Line X instead of carpet?

[Fastest1]

I am ripping out the carpet as I type. This stuff is hideous. Besides being worn, sun faded and torn in a place or 2, does it ever dry?

The carpet is installed on the hull prior top the top being installed. This does present the need for a little more patience in removal. The adhesive is pretty weak after 7 years. Just tedious work.

My intent is to remove all traces of the carpet, in the storage areas too. I will have a grey Line X applied under the gunnels from the rub rail seam down to the edge of the bilge in the center of the boat. My thought is to go up the edges all the way around the interior maybe 1 to 1.5" as a built in cove mold. That will attempt to hide the seam to some extent. The gaps seem reasonably uniform. Perfection would be nice but then I wake up.

Pictures will follow. As luck would have it. It started raining. I will be working in it since there is no reason not to. Keeps the dust down ;-)

I want to use blue Miner's Moss on the floor only after the bedliner is done. Just a fitted and bound rug, not glue in. Got a buddy ready to do the binding.
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[mmandley]

Where are you feeling the blue miner moss

[Fastest1]

Are you asking where I am finding it? I will have to check when I get home. Seems like it is American Boat Flooring or something similar. They sent me some samples. With and without backing.
I am getting farther on the carpet removal. 2322523226


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[Fastest1]

Sorry, this is it. www.americanfloormats.com/‎


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[Fastest1]

The colors.http://www.americanfloormats.com/miners-moss-prospecting-mats/#colors

[mmandley]

The colors.http://www.americanfloormats.com/miners-moss-prospecting-mats/#colors

Thanks that's what I needed.

[ian ashton]

I've frequently thought about ripping out my carpet and doing spray in bedliner, but the gaps in the floor make me nervous.

I think I want to rip the carpet out, then cut to fit a top layer of textured layer of Starboard, then do snap-in carpet, SeaDek or something on top of that.

[Fastest1]

Ian the only gaps I see are the 1's around the covers over the bilge. The gaps are large but they are uniform. My thought is either an aluminum strip to minimize the gap or plastic. Then apply the bedliner.
The door to the so called in floor cooler is too small also. Same technique or even make another door. Still undecided on that.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a carpet with backing. The Miner's Moss comes either way. It would be easier to seam and get to lay flat if backed. I could possibly even fuse, melt or glue the pieces together if needed.

[ian ashton]

I meant the gaps between the floor and the top cap - like, removing the thickness of the carpet, is the bedliner thick enough to fill that gap, or would it be a little floppy because it's not a tight fit.

[jstenger]

Fill the carpet gap with 1/4" thick HDPE spacers that are about an inch or so wide.

[trayson]

I found that a reciprocating saw with this scraper attachment worked awesome at removing the residual adhesive. you have to be careful as if you let the scraper go a little wild that it can make a chip in your fiberglass pretty easy (turn into a chisel instead of a scraper).

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[Fastest1]

Maybe a little bondo prior to the bed liner or just coat it all.


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[Fastest1]

Went ahead and started pulling the interior too!

Make it easier for the bed liner guys and for the interior guys.
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[kaneboats]

May want to check out this thread. My pics are in post #100. Good luck!

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?24591-Replacing-carpeted-flooring-with-HydroTruf/page10&highlight=hydroturf

[jmvotto]

May want to check out this thread. My pics are in post #100. Good luck!

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?24591-Replacing-carpeted-flooring-with-HydroTruf/page10&highlight=hydroturf

Pat that looks great , I guess ,my next mod will be hydro turf, seadek etc. isn't the miner moss that crap they put under the center ballast that collects every thing.
??? does the hydroturf get hot

[Jceclipse01]

My blue hydroturf does not get too hot. I would think it would have to be cooler than a bed liner material. It seems dry very fast.23229

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[mmandley]

I think the old ski locker pad was a version of miner moss, the stuff these guys are referring to is a lot thicker. IDK if you have been in a boat with this miner moss type stuff, can't recall the industry name, but its a lot thicker. Padded feeling and wicks water away really well.

The reason the ski locker got so nasty was because it didn't drain water out very well. It was part of the bilge so it always had water sloshing back and forth. Plus with the bag in the locker it would hold wetness in. Same thing the bags do in the V drives now with carpet.

I spent time time in a Tige with the miner moss stuff and its pretty legit.

I want to do miners moss instead of my snap carpet this coming summer due to the lab. Even though I can remove my carpet now, its still pretty hard to clean. I can take a pressure washer to it but due to its water wicking ability, it doesn't really let the hair pressure wash off. I end up using the house vac to really clean it.

I really want something I can remove spray off, spray the boat out and its clean again.

I like the Seadeck ideas as well but it scuffs and removing it is a real pain if you need to replace a section. Plus in the last few years it seems Seadeck has gotten a pretty bad customer reputation. The new gator mat or what ever they call it SC and everyone is using now that is on the swim decks, and gunnels. I really like it but man that will burn the piss out of you in the sun.

[trayson]

Pat that looks great , I guess ,my next mod will be hydro turf, seadek etc. isn't the miner moss that crap they put under the center ballast that collects every thing.
??? does the hydroturf get hot

I have the dark gray hydroturf (it matches the carpet very well) and on the hottest days it got a tiny bit hot. But I had one of those 'stream machine' water guns in my boat and just wet it down with water and it was fine.

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[kaneboats]

Pat that looks great , I guess ,my next mod will be hydro turf, seadek etc. isn't the miner moss that crap they put under the center ballast that collects every thing.
??? does the hydroturf get hot

Thanks. Had it in the full season this year and everyone was extremely happy with it. Doesn't stink like wet carpet. Easy to spray clean. Dries very fast. Comfy on the feet. Durable and still looks brand new. And, it never really got hot even in the FL sun. My rear locker doors get 10x hotter than the floor ever does.

[parrothd]

I knew you guys would love hydro!

[jmvotto]

I think the old ski locker pad was a version of miner moss, the stuff these guys are referring to is a lot thicker. IDK if you have been in a boat with this miner moss type stuff, can't recall the industry name, but its a lot thicker. Padded feeling and wicks water away really well.

The reason the ski locker got so nasty was because it didn't drain water out very well. It was part of the bilge so it always had water sloshing back and forth. Plus with the bag in the locker it would hold wetness in. Same thing the bags do in the V drives now with carpet.

I spent time time in a Tige with the miner moss stuff and its pretty legit.

I want to do miners moss instead of my snap carpet this coming summer due to the lab. Even though I can remove my carpet now, its still pretty hard to clean. I can take a pressure washer to it but due to its water wicking ability, it doesn't really let the hair pressure wash off. I end up using the house vac to really clean it.

I really want something I can remove spray off, spray the boat out and its clean again.

I like the Seadeck ideas as well but it scuffs and removing it is a real pain if you need to replace a section. Plus in the last few years it seems Seadeck has gotten a pretty bad customer reputation. The new gator mat or what ever they call it SC and everyone is using now that is on the swim decks, and gunnels. I really like it but man that will burn the piss out of you in the sun.

I would think chips, cracker crumbs peanuts etc would get stuck in it

[mmandley]

I would think chips, cracker crumbs peanuts etc would get stuck in it

Not with a 90lb Lab.

We call him the snoofer vac. His nose sucks everything up.

But the stuff is removable so remove it spray it out from the back side. The mesh is not as tight as you think. Miner moss is just a nickname, not as fine as gold catching miner moss

[viking]

Deckadence is the name of the mat that was an option on the Tige's and Centurions. I know some manufacturers dropped it as an option due to their lack of ability to meet supply demands. But you can custom order for any application and just need to make a template if they don't already have one.

I custom ordered one for my new boat and will never go back to carpet. I had the option to order my boat with the non-skid flooring and fineline uses gatorstep now. I think SC does too? But opted for the base snap carpet knowing I was going to replace with a Deckadence mat. The non-skid flooring looks good but concerned about dirt and grime collecting around the edges and wanted something removable that I can spray off. The Deckadence is alot thicker than the DIY jobs I've seen and has a non-skid backing. Debri and water just filters right through it and very very soft on your feet.

The down side - its on the expensive side. But to me it's been worth every penny and imo really has held up to the hype.

[mmandley]

Deckadence is the name of the mat that was an option on the Tige's and Centurions. I know some manufacturers dropped it as an option due to their lack of ability to meet supply demands. But you can custom order for any application and just need to make a template if they don't already have one.

I custom ordered one for my new boat and will never go back to carpet. I had the option to order my boat with the non-skid flooring and fineline uses gatorstep now. I think SC does too? But opted for the base snap carpet knowing I was going to replace with a Deckadence mat. The non-skid flooring looks good but concerned about dirt and grime collecting around the edges and wanted something removable that I can spray off. The Deckadence is alot thicker than the DIY jobs I've seen and has a non-skid backing. Debri and water just filters right through it and very very soft on your feet.

The down side - its on the expensive side. But to me it's been worth every penny and imo really has held up to the hype.

Thats that I wanted to get, I contacted SC and they don't make them for my Mojo. I been looking to see who I need to contact to get it bought. I am really not worried about cost, to me its more important to be happy lol. I haven't ordered anything yet, just have the factory snap carpet and like I said above I love it, but its a pain to keep clean. At least the level of clean I like my boat at.

[ian ashton]

I have the dark gray hydroturf (it matches the carpet very well) and on the hottest days it got a tiny bit hot. But I had one of those 'stream machine' water guns in my boat and just wet it down with water and it was fine.

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Is your interior metal flake blue? How? Is the outside too!?

[jstenger]

I think it is a vinyl wrap.

[trayson]

Is your interior metal flake blue? How? Is the outside too!?

Yes, I got some metalflake vinyl wrap. The plus side is that it's affordable and looks awesome when it sparkles in the sun. The down side is that it's a metallic backing that is behind the vinyl so unlike traditional vinyl wraps it DOES NOT STRETCH. so this means that it's pretty much impossible to get a wrinkle free installation. I did pretty good, but there's no way someone would be happy with it if they're Type A and have to go over any kind of sloped part of the hull. The seat base was mostly straight, so I pulled that off pretty well.

I also added a strip of blue metal flake vinyl to the blue that was above my rub rail. that part was a lot more prone to the creases.

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[viking]

Thats that I wanted to get, I contacted SC and they don't make them for my Mojo. I been looking to see who I need to contact to get it bought. I am really not worried about cost, to me its more important to be happy lol. I haven't ordered anything yet, just have the factory snap carpet and like I said above I love it, but its a pain to keep clean. At least the level of clean I like my boat at.

Mike I can pm or email you the contact info. if you like? Use your snap carpet to make a template on a sheet of plastic. That's what I did for starters and then adjusted from there. They have a couple videos describing the best way to make a template for perfect fit.

[Fastest1]

I appreciate all of the pics and links. I had seen Kane and Trayson's handy work. Both quite well done as others have been.

My desire for the bedliner is mostly for an aesthetic base. A quick drying super tough finish. However I will be covering the walking areas with the Miner's Moss I referred to earlier. From what I can see of the Deckadence, it appears to be very similar if not the same.

At this moment I am still removing everything and I mean everything from the interior.

The color of the bedliner will be a medium to light grey so that would theoretically keep the temps down but it should be a moot point with the MM down. I never wear shoes no matter the season. I just hate shoes. Feet are tough.

[jmvotto]

Yes, I got some metalflake vinyl wrap. The plus side is that it's affordable and looks awesome when it sparkles in the sun. The down side is that it's a metallic backing that is behind the vinyl so unlike traditional vinyl wraps it DOES NOT STRETCH. so this means that it's pretty much impossible to get a wrinkle free installation. I did pretty good, but there's no way someone would be happy with it if they're Type A and have to go over any kind of sloped part of the hull. The seat base was mostly straight, so I pulled that off pretty well.

I also added a strip of blue metal flake vinyl to the blue that was above my rub rail. that part was a lot more prone to the creases.

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trayson whats that hatch for in the middle?

[trayson]

trayson whats that hatch for in the middle?

Dead bodies????

Oh wait, that's what the basement storage locker is for!

It's the in floor cooler. it's not huge, a little over 1' x 2' I'd guess. We'll often put a bag in there and use it for a trash compartment. Or if we use the under seat cooler we'll use this as the in floor cooler for when we have lots of people. It can actually fit a decent amount. definitely a case of water and a case of beer and lots of ice. It has a hole that drains into the bilge that I got a cork for.

It stretches out twice the width of the opening that you see here:
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here's a pic of the storage area with the panel removed. the cooler is molded into the panel. Don't the newer XLV's have this? what do they use that space for instead???
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Our primary cooler is our Coleman Party Stacker that goes under the port seat:
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[Fastest1]

I have an in floor cooler on the Outback too. I have yet to figure out how to keep the water on the floor out! These boats with low free board get more over the bow than in any boat I have ever driven. Definitely not a boat to expect to be dry in.

[viking]

I have an in floor cooler on the Outback too. I have yet to figure out how to keep the water on the floor out! These boats with low free board get more over the bow than in any boat I have ever driven. Definitely not a boat to expect to be dry in.

LOL - it all has to do with the driver :)
I almost never (quote "almost") took a roller over the bow. But with wife driving always got one every time out. It's extremely easy as you said with the low freeboard to take on some water. Let your guard down for a second and it invites lake water in! My permanent solution to the issue was the "new boat mod" - :cool:

[That Guy]

Possibly interested in the hydroturf stuff. Anyone tried making a 'snap-in' mat of this stuff in place of snap in carpet? Just curious. I'm considering the Gatorstep but just not sure I want something permanent down.

[5:00]

I had a discussion about snapping in the Hydroturf and it was highly not recommended. I am guessing the material isn't strong enough to take the pressure of doing that on a repeated basis. It is pretty light weight and really made to be cemented down. Maybe Velcro or that 3M snap in plastic type Velcro?

[jmvotto]

trayson, I use the Coleman stacker as well, the cooler next to that is pretty useless and I store ropes etc. in there.

The only tow things in the floor are the center plug and the access plate to the fuel pump.

we now have a 50 gallon gas tank. maybe that's were the volume under the floor went

[Fastest1]

LOL - it all has to do with the driver :)
I almost never (quote "almost") took a roller over the bow. But with wife driving always got one every time out. It's extremely easy as you said with the low freeboard to take on some water. Let your guard down for a second and it invites lake water in! My permanent solution to the issue was the "new boat mod" - :cool:

I am getting better and do realize there were issues on my part. That being said, it is not a rough water boat. You call it a roller, it looked more like a huge wall! I was thinking the boat needed a life jacket. I knew I could swim away ;-)


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[5:00]

Took a big roller ONCE. My mother-in-law was in the bow in full street clothes. Luckily she laughed her ass off about it. She is truly awesome.

[trayson]

trayson, I use the Coleman stacker as well, the cooler next to that is pretty useless and I store ropes etc. in there.

The only tow things in the floor are the center plug and the access plate to the fuel pump.

we now have a 50 gallon gas tank. maybe that's were the volume under the floor went

Yeah, that makes perfect sense to increase the size of the fuel tank and add a center plug (I don't have one of those). Can't say I mind the in floor storage though. like I said, it's either cooler or trashcan. either way it's quite useful. the party stacker is great, but super small.

I don't have a "cooler next to the party stacker". I have storage under the small corner cushion that doesn't have a 'back wall' to it so it's open to the rear storage lockers. this is great IMO as it lets me store longer items in the rear locker like my slalom ski. In that storage on the port side I have some extra buoy balls, a Tsunami pump (as a backup) and a reversible pump hidden in there too. As far as the seating that's forward of the cutout where the party stacker is, that space is undivided and goes all the way forward. In fact, I took one of the stock 400 bags and have it as an under the seat bag that goes from just forward of the party stacker all the way up to where my amps and batteries are. so basically the full length of those 2 cushions forward of the stacker cooler. it's GREAT for some surfside hidden ballast!!!

You can kind of see what I'm talking about here:
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(and the thread jack continues...)

[Fastest1]

Talking about a thread hijack. You should have seen the LineX guys quote when I brought in the boat! It was all prepped and ready to be taped and sprayed. He gave me a price that insured I ran off. I have divorced a customer or two in my day. I know the technique. After talking to a few other companies, most assured me that failure was most likely.
On to plan B. No liner, just miners moss. Cheaper too.


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[Fastest1]

Here are a few pics of the first installed piece of Miner's Moss aka Spaghetti mat.
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I apologize the boat is dirty. The work is in progress. Maybe the suspension seat and swivel next?


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[ian ashton]

Did you wrap the moss around your floor pieces, like how the factory carpet is installed?

[Fastest1]

Did you wrap the moss around your floor pieces, like how the factory carpet is installed?

Yes or I am in the process of doing the panels now. I was going to install it loose but decided to glue it down. I am thinking of using a very thin strip of metal around the perimeter of the panels below the sight line to help secure the carpet to the panels.

[That Guy]

Looks great! Where did you source such large pieces?

[Fastest1]

Looks great! Where did you source such large pieces?

I got these at Americanfloormats.com they come in up to 4' widths. However after ordering it. I found other companies with 6' widths. Look under "spaghetti mat" and many more options pop up.



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[Fastest1]

Here is the back panel. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160701/eeaaae980aace063e4ea5f1085ab57e0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160701/93a0ceee5f30f1787e0ab4b636db0723.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160701/63bc9d18dddc2ebfe73742c5943bce06.jpg


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[Fastest1]

Here is the panel in place but not screwed down as I still have a little trimming around the edges. It is going to work well. I always hated the fit of the panels anyway ;-)


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[That Guy]

Thanks for the info and great work on the boat. I bought a 30x60 piece of this a few months ago and just lay it in the center of my boat but really wished it was ~5" wider to go to the edge.

[Fastest1]

I used a 4x24 for everything seen. I will finish under the seats with a 4x8


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[rdlangston13]

I want to replace the carpet in my boat but I am stuck on this or sea deck. I like the dotted texture of seadeck but I believe this stuff is less expensive. My main concern with this product is the water retention capabilities. It looks like it would be a nightmare to get completely dry.

[Fastest1]

The product I used is made from PVC. It holds no water. Which was the main reason I ripped up the original carpet. It was always wet. This isn't inexpensive. I have about 600 in the materials alone.


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[rdlangston13]

The product I used is made from PVC. It holds no water. Which was the main reason I ripped up the original carpet. It was always wet. This isn't inexpensive. I have about 600 in the materials alone.


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I just saw that you're in The Woodlands / Conroe area, wanna come to Katy and help me with mine when you're done?? haha. Is there a specific brand of this that you used?

[Fastest1]

I would be glad to.
Don't expect me to be fast though.
The glue I am using takes 72 hours to cure.


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[Fastest1]

I just saw that you're in The Woodlands / Conroe area, wanna come to Katy and help me with mine when you're done?? haha. Is there a specific brand of this that you used?

Btw, make it a winter project. The fun is removing the original and prepping the floors and walls. The original carpet is installed before the 2 halves of the hull are joined. You will earn your keep to get some of it out. There is one piece of the original carpet still attached to a fresh air vent up under and in front of the dash. I will get it eventually or a small child will! It wont be replaced.

[Fastest1]

Ok so this is all I am doing this weekend. It is time to get in the water. It's hot!
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[Fastest1]

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That is all.


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[New Guy]

Wow that turned out great!

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[Fastest1]

Wow that turned out great!

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Thanks. Definitely an indoor project. I was in the driveway in the 90's.

For anyone else, cautious use of a heat gun helps it form the rounded edge. It relaxes the material enough to glue it around the edges.

[That Guy]

Keep us updated on how you like it over a season. I'm curious to see how easy it is to keep clean, and how the material holds up. I have a couple large pieces in my boat just laying down as I like to pull them out to hang them dry in the garage and that way I can wipe out the floor itself.

Did you buy the rubber backed stuff or no?

[Fastest1]

I bought the unbacked. I was going to loose lay it originally. I ended up gluing it in. It was more durable than I thought while working with it.
I will give a report after a bit of use.


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[Fastest1]

So I have been out on the boat for the last 2 days. The carpet is great. It appears to feel dry as soon as the water runs thru.

It feels good on the feet too ( I did not like it on my knees during the install, however I hate getting on my knees, a moving blanket worked though ;-)

I do see an issue with the adhesive in the motor compartment area. Due to the heat and high humidity the carpet that is rolled over, the edge keeps wanting to come loose. I originally was thinking of using a thin strip of stainless that had holes every 6 or so inches and attach it with screws. I will most likely implement that. Similar to the way I captured the carpet on the panels. I think the heat will work against any glues available.

The seat base is the real surprise. It works fantastic. Unfortunately everyone in the boat needs one or you dont enjoy the benefit as the others in the boat will not survive.

Did I mention I hate lakes with trees under the water?

[cornrickey]

How do you think it would do with dog hair?

[Fastest1]

I don't think dog hair would be any worse than anything else. The flooring will need to be vacuumed due to its construction.


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[newbie1993]

did you make that cooler fit there or did it come like that?



Dead bodies????

Oh wait, that's what the basement storage locker is for!

It's the in floor cooler. it's not huge, a little over 1' x 2' I'd guess. We'll often put a bag in there and use it for a trash compartment. Or if we use the under seat cooler we'll use this as the in floor cooler for when we have lots of people. It can actually fit a decent amount. definitely a case of water and a case of beer and lots of ice. It has a hole that drains into the bilge that I got a cork for.

It stretches out twice the width of the opening that you see here:
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here's a pic of the storage area with the panel removed. the cooler is molded into the panel. Don't the newer XLV's have this? what do they use that space for instead???
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Our primary cooler is our Coleman Party Stacker that goes under the port seat:
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That is all.


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That Looks Great. I'm assuming you didn't have a need to glue any of the seams due to covering each panel separately?
If trying to get a one piece that lays in and removable I'd think you need to glue seams and get rubber backing.
I think the route you went is what I would have done on the DD.
The stuff is the best on your feat and I don't think you will ever regret your decision! Expensive or not the stuff is worth it.