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BrettLee3232
06-17-2015, 03:23 AM
Boat was very sluggish trying to pull a wake boarder with full ballast. I wasn't expecting that with all the hype of the Raptor motor.

I hear nothing but great things on the 1235 prop. Haven't heard to much on the 2079.

Would like some help here please!

90% surf 10% board - 3k ballast - Mondo w/ Raptor

Could not get boat on plane with half filled ballast and 6 adults on board..



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patrick232
06-17-2015, 05:52 AM
Check with wakemakers. I'll have to check what prop I switched mine out to last year. Couldn't plane out with full ballest and 8 onboard.

uniwarking
06-17-2015, 08:02 AM
Yeah, I'd check with wakemakers or nettles. Seems odd that a smaller boat with a bigger motor and basically the same ballast setup won't get up and go though... my Mojo did fine with the stock OJ prop. I will say though, the 1235 was a huge improvement at least in my case. What did your RPM's look like? Any check engine light? I guess I could understand if you had all that ballast full and had 6 or more adults on the boat...

nitrodude24
06-17-2015, 08:49 AM
The 2079 is very similar to the 1235 the cup is different so it has the same bottom end but you don't loose quite as much top end. I put this on our lsv last year but ordered our mojo with the 1235

patrick232
06-17-2015, 11:43 AM
We went from the 537 to the 1235.

btbpreston
06-17-2015, 12:35 PM
If you're considering the 2079, I'd recommend going to the 2315. It's the same pitch and cup, but is a 15" instead of 14.5". A few guys who've gone from the 2079 to the 2315 described it as going from old bald tires to brand new tires.

North Woods Mobius
06-17-2015, 01:50 PM
We went from the 537 to the 1235.

Sam here - I just bought the 1235 from Nettles to upgrade from the 537 that came on my 2014 LSV (which was billed as the "upgraded prop" - I wonder what the stock one was??). With an additional 1,000 ballast that I added with 900lbs rears and a 500 lbs IBS I figured the 1235 was definitely the way to go. It just arrived yesterday but sadly I can't get up to the lake until after the 4th of July, so I'll swap it over then.

What kind of change did you see when you swapped over your 537 to the 1235? I hear the low-end torque is massively improved ....

BrettLee3232
06-17-2015, 02:00 PM
Check with wakemakers. I'll have to check what prop I switched mine out to last year. Couldn't plane out with full ballest and 8 onboard.

I know mine is an oj but not sure which model. It was very embarrassing not getting on plane.


Yeah, I'd check with wakemakers or nettles. Seems odd that a smaller boat with a bigger motor and basically the same ballast setup won't get up and go though... my Mojo did fine with the stock OJ prop. I will say though, the 1235 was a huge improvement at least in my case. What did your RPM's look like? Any check engine light? I guess I could understand if you had all that ballast full and had 6 or more adults on the boat...

RPMs were around 3500 wakemakers has free shipping and no tax. Nettles was cheaper but charged shipping so it was actually more money.


If you're considering the 2079, I'd recommend going to the 2315. It's the same pitch and cup, but is a 15" instead of 14.5". A few guys who've gone from the 2079 to the 2315 described it as going from old bald tires to brand new tires.

Good to know, I originally wanted the 2315 but on wakemakers it said for heavily weighted setups tongi with the 2079.



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uniwarking
06-17-2015, 02:53 PM
RPM's 3500? Wide open throttle? Per the manual, you should be between 5000 - 5400 RPM (towards the top of this spec range is better). I'd have some serious questions if my boat was topping out at 3500 RPM's with what is essentially stock optional ballast (since you're half full) and 6 adults (boat is rated for 13)! Anything the boat came equipped with prop wise should be able to get up on plane easily with the load you noted.

What is your WOT with no ballast and only a couple people in the boat?

mmandley
06-18-2015, 12:51 AM
Not surprised you need a bigger prop. I wouldn't blame the Raptor it has 400 torque but the Surf Edition 345 is HP and it also has almost 400 Torque.

I would have to look at my prop on my Mojo but its a LOT bigger then a 1235. I don't think its the 2079, I think I had the 2079 on my LSV.

In my Mojo when I surpassed the 3K ballast for Surfing I got a bigger prop, just easier on the engine and fuel consumption.

BrettLee3232
06-18-2015, 01:11 AM
RPM's 3500? Wide open throttle? Per the manual, you should be between 5000 - 5400 RPM (towards the top of this spec range is better). I'd have some serious questions if my boat was topping out at 3500 RPM's with what is essentially stock optional ballast (since you're half full) and 6 adults (boat is rated for 13)! Anything the boat came equipped with prop wise should be able to get up on plane easily with the load you noted.

What is your WOT with no ballast and only a couple people in the boat?

WOT I get around 42mph around 5000rpm


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uniwarking
06-18-2015, 07:41 AM
WOT I get around 42mph around 5000rpm


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Okay, that sounds better. Think I'd be looking for a prop that yielded closer to 5400RPM WOT. Like I mentioned, I've been happy with my 1235. I'm still a bit surprised you couldn't get on plane with your setup as you mentioned...

btbpreston
06-18-2015, 12:35 PM
Good to know, I originally wanted the 2315 but on wakemakers it said for heavily weighted setups tongi with the 2079.



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While wakemakers is a good source of info, it is only that, info. They recommend the same 2079 prop for my F22 but I went with the 2315 based on what I've read on the forums and what guys locally have experienced. As long as there isn't a clearance issue, I see no reason not to go to a 15" prop. The OJ 945 and 948 would also be great options, imo, and they are generally cheaper than acme.

If you were local to me, I'd let you try my 1235 and 2315 to see what you think.

JASONZ
07-15-2015, 03:20 PM
I recently upgraded from the 1235 to the 2079 and its great!
My SC350 would not plane with the 1235 for wakeboarding running 2000lb rear and 1300lb front.
With the new 2079 it planed rather easily.

mark540
07-15-2015, 10:24 PM
Brett, the standard OJ on the 15's is 14.25 x 14.5, the 1235 is 14.5 x 14.25, i would say it so close it isn't going to be a dramatic change. The 2079 is 14.5 × 12 which will be a decent upgrade on the low end from what i have read. The 2315 is 15 x 12, it is seems as if it would fit as it is about 3/8" closer to the boat and there is about an 1 3/8" from my measurements. I am going through the same process right now, just deciding between the 2079 and 2315.

BamaMojo
07-16-2015, 07:34 AM
Brett, the standard OJ on the 15's is 14.25 x 14.5, the 1235 is 14.5 x 14.25, i would say it so close it isn't going to be a dramatic change. The 2079 is 14.5 × 12 which will be a decent upgrade on the low end from what i have read. The 2315 is 15 x 12, it is seems as if it would fit as it is about 3/8" closer to the boat and there is about an 1 3/8" from my measurements. I am going through the same process right now, just deciding between the 2079 and 2315.

Decent upgrade is an understatement. The 2079 is a torque monster. With 3k+ ballast it is happy. I love this prop when the boat is full of ballast, when not slammed with water it's not my fav. The more weight you run the more you will like this prop.
I tend to run the 1235 more than the 2079. The 2079 has so much torque on the low end that it is really touchy on takeoff for the kids. If it's adults only on the boat all day the 2079 is my choice, if we have the kids( and we normally do) then I run the 1235.
I hope this helps


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New Guy
09-01-2015, 10:43 AM
I just trashed my 1235 last night and ordered up a 2079. We have been riding full ballast +8 people and the 1235 left a lot to be desired. I cant wait to get the 2079.

BamaMojo
09-01-2015, 10:50 AM
I just trashed my 1235 last night and ordered up a 2079. We have been riding full ballast +8 people and the 1235 left a lot to be desired. I cant wait to get the 2079.

It is awesome. You will see a big difference in the low end.


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07STI
09-01-2015, 11:16 AM
I just trashed my 1235 last night and ordered up a 2079. We have been riding full ballast +8 people and the 1235 left a lot to be desired. I cant wait to get the 2079.

Were you on the Fox near Wrightstown? Just curious where and what happened.

If you can post your results after throwing the 2079 on, I'd appreciate it. My Craz would not get on plane last weekend until I had 2 adults move to the bow. It was the first time I was out after upgrading the rear bags to 1,100's and adding a 750 bow bag.

New Guy
09-01-2015, 01:20 PM
Yeah it happened in wrighstown at the landing. The water is low and u should have known better. It just looks like we'll be pushing out the rest of the year. It's on 2-3 feet at the docks to start. I'll let you know what I think of the 2079 as soon as I get it.

BrettLee3232
09-01-2015, 02:50 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/8e563f2bdd7f1e6b773f640ea58f8f71.jpg

Happened to me last weekend....funny thing is the boat ran fine after. There's a slight vibration on the steering wheel at take off but after that you can't tell a difference. I really want the 2079 but the wife is a no go on the new prop since ours runs lol....ughhhhhhh


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BamaMojo
09-01-2015, 03:17 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/8e563f2bdd7f1e6b773f640ea58f8f71.jpg

Happened to me last weekend....funny thing is the boat ran fine after. There's a slight vibration on the steering wheel at take off but after that you can't tell a difference. I really want the 2079 but the wife is a no go on the new prop since ours runs lol....ughhhhhhh


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You can get that repaired for about 150.


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mmandley
09-01-2015, 04:14 PM
You might not feel the vibration but I guarantee your seals and trans feels it.

07STI
09-01-2015, 04:38 PM
Yeah it happened in wrighstown at the landing. The water is low and u should have known better. It just looks like we'll be pushing out the rest of the year. It's on 2-3 feet at the docks to start. I'll let you know what I think of the 2079 as soon as I get it.

That sucks. I was just out on Saturday. I knew it was shallow, but didn't realize it was that bad.

New Guy
09-01-2015, 05:24 PM
Yeah if you ever get off your boat at the dock it is maybe waist deep.

JoelFett
09-01-2015, 05:48 PM
Try filling the ballast or pulling a rider then see what happens. Guarantee you'll feel the vibration then. Mine was the same way after hitting a sand bar and I thought I was good. Till I tried to pull a tube.

07STI
09-01-2015, 06:34 PM
Try filling the ballast or pulling a rider then see what happens. Guarantee you'll feel the vibration then. Mine was the same way after hitting a sand bar and I thought I was good. Till I tried to pull a tube.

That was just the boat voicing its displeasure! :p

JoelFett
09-01-2015, 06:38 PM
I would agree with you 95% of the time, but the other 6% is dedicated to pulling special needs kids, cause everyone needs water time. I don't even let my kids tube anymore. Older one skis and is learning to surf, 7yr old rides the modified boogie board on the surf wave. He loves that stuff

(And yes, I'm on the water 101% of the time cause I love it that much)


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07STI
09-01-2015, 06:44 PM
I would agree with you 95% of the time, but the other 6% is dedicated to pulling special needs kids, cause everyone needs water time.

(And yes, I'm on the water 101% of the time cause I love it that much)

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I have my share of tube-time too with having two boys under 5. Just comes with the territory!

New Guy
09-08-2015, 10:40 PM
Ok guys after heading out last weekend I'm ready to "review" the 2079.

I recently upgraded my stock rear lockers to 1400's (http://www.thewakesend.com/) and I'm figuring I'm getting about 1200 lbs / side before the locker doors popped open. I am running a 650 ibs piggybacked as well. I have the 345 motor.

At first I was a little dissapointed, I was comparing my 1235 running stock ballast to the 2079 running way more weight. It seemed a little sluggish but the more we launched the better I was liking it. Man this prop is smooth when running heavier weights. The speed held fantastic and driving tight double ups I didn't once feel the prop slip.

After a day of riding I am very happy. We are at that point where more weight is going to need additional front weight to plane out. With that said the wake is mackin running like this and I don't think that we will add anymore anytime soon.

jmvotto
09-08-2015, 11:07 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/8e563f2bdd7f1e6b773f640ea58f8f71.jpg

Happened to me last weekend....funny thing is the boat ran fine after. There's a slight vibration on the steering wheel at take off but after that you can't tell a difference. I really want the 2079 but the wife is a no go on the new prop since ours runs lol....ughhhhhhh


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