Questions about Moderator Duties

[slipperyrockTKE300]

I am NOT trying to rock the boat or create any type of mutiny with this question - I'm just really curious - especially after having been a moderator for way too long.

Why do we keep the same moderators for life?

Why can't we rotate moderators every year so everyone has an equal chance of contributing to how this forum is governed.

I see a lot of the new members have some great ideas on forum administration.

thoughts?

I suggest every June 21st we should nominate and vote for new moderators.

[Rakkasan]

Did you change your Profile name or something because it seems you've only been on the forum for less than a year. I'm not trying to rock the boat either but you have twice the post I have and I "feel" like you haven't contributed as much. :D

[mmandley]

Ed buddy, your going to get banned again...

Anyhow also you can't start a post with..

I am NOT trying to rock the boat or create any type of mutiny with this question

All this means is thats exactly what your going to do..

Just like when someone says..

With all do Respect.. blah blah is normally pretty disrespectful LOL

[newty]

Because...

Anyone else feel there needs to be a change?

[BrettLee3232]

What do moderators do besides delete the occasional spam post?


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[bergermaister]

Put up with guys like Ed. For a little while anyway.

[mmandley]

What do moderators do besides delete the occasional spam post?


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Thats pretty much the bulk of their duty, they ban the spammers, delete the offensive, way off track or seriously argumentive threads, posts.

Its a very thankless position that us normal listed members don't realize.

[slipperyrockTKE300]

Change is good.

If someone didn't question the status quo way back when, we all would be speaking the queens English.

Just speaking for myself - being a moderator carries a lot of juice and there are some pretty handsome discounts on watersports equipment available.

I think others ought to be given the same opportunity.

As I said, I was just curious how others felt about the idea of moderator rotation.

[sandm]

Ed buddy, your going to get banned again...



This...

Ed, take some advice and enjoy the forum for what it is. no need to let a new group of Moomba owners know who slipperyrock WAS.

[slipperyrockTKE300]

SandM, I'm an open book with nothing to hide.

I am most definitely not trying to force any changes. I think the majority of the moderators are doing a fabulous job ( I am the one who recruited them).

I was just presenting an idea for the future.

You ever fully recover from your fencing experience?

[MLA]

Looks like Toto just pulled back the curtain a little too much. If true, that could explain the tone, temper and direction of some particular threads. Seems like emotion due to a financial interest, could easily skew ones judgement when it comes to applying these in the best interest of the Skiers Choice Moomba Community.


4) It is fair game to debate, challenge, and question, keeping in mind the PG-rating applies at all times.
5) Personal attacks, mean-spirited comments, and abusive behavior are not tolerated.
6) Not a venue for agents or representatives of any company or business entity to advertise or promote any website, cause, movement, group, product, or service.

[parrothd]

Ditto......

[drb59]

I see this all the time and especially from the moderators. The BMW bashing is one that has been mean spirited and abusive. But, they do a thankless job and some friendly reminders are good once in a while. No need to be making any changes from my perspective.

[sivs1]

Personally I think it would be cool the be a moderator and hold a thankless position. Do I feel I have enough knowledge or community on this forum, no, but with time I am sure I can get there one day. Until that time may come, I will enjoy being an active member of this forum and contribute where I feel I can provide a benefit and learn where I still need to.

[trayson]

Because...

Anyone else feel there needs to be a change?


I see this all the time and especially from the moderators. The BMW bashing is one that has been mean spirited and abusive. But, they do a thankless job and some friendly reminders are good once in a while. No need to be making any changes from my perspective.

I'd say the only change that needs to be made is highlighted above. When playful banter starts crossing over into trolling, I think that the posters need a gentle reminder to step back. In the above-mentioned case, the moderators are the ones that are perpetuating the problem and maybe this thread can serve as their 'gentle reminder'. I've chosen to step out of the banter arena on the BMW topic as to not feed the trolling, but obviously it's something that has gone beyond taking playful pokes at me and is on the radar of other members to the point where they feel the need to bring it up publicly. In fact, I've been silent on the issue but figured since it came up again I would now address it because it basically started with stuff that was really directed at me.

[trayson]

As far as do we need to implement come kind of system to change things up? I'd say no.

Ed, you have some good views on things and you're certainly an advocate for 'fairness', but I really think that we don't need to complicate everyone's lives by adding lots of bureaucracy and red tape to our forum by voting on this and that and changing every little thing (subject to trying to gain consensus and votes). It's too much. Most members honestly don't care about the little stuff. And the big stuff does tend to get addressed in time. Bottom line is that this forum is one of the better ones out there, and most are fine with the status quo and have a lot more to worry about than adding complexity with some type of "governance by the people" that would require more time than the average user cares to give. That would turn into "governance by the post whores". And while I'm VERY active and vocal, it doesn't mean that I'm representative of the silent majority.

[DOCDRS]

Moderators have been responsible for keeping the spam out, they have added new forums to the site as to suit the changing times in watersports activities, created a how to forum to help the diyers who frequent the forum and try to keep the peace. The moderators do not agree on everything all the time but the majority has always ruled. Most of all they are here as they like to promote boating and watersports and are advocates SKIERS CHOICE products. Oh ya and they also correct the occasional spelling mistake.

[slipperyrockTKE300]

Trayson, you should be a moderator :)

I agree with what you state. You could convince me to buy a BMW.

I will state with pride, that I was a very happy SAAB owner from 1987 until 2008. Had 4 of them babies.

" friendly reminder" and "gentle reminder" I like that. Lets see what evolves

The deluge just stopped - back to cutting grass.

have a great Sunday everyone!

Edit: Doug would you please correct the spelling error in the title of this thread? thx, e

[viking]

I've been on here quite some time now and the moderators do change and have. There is always going to be some attrition over time and moderators come and go. This is probably one of the best forums I've been a part of. It's ok to have a little fun every now and then and the major riff-raff gets taken care of for the most part. There is really no reason I see to have a strict policy on changing them.

If there is something that offends you on a thread or post a pm to a moderator will probably help instead of taking everything public. But difference of opinions, ways of doing things, and competition is what drives progress. Sometimes people just need to lighten up a bit!

[slipperyrockTKE300]

Need to add one last thing that is on my mind...

Moderators, please think twice before hitting the enter button after making derogatory statements in your edits in the posts of forum members.

Written negative comments towards anyone, no matter how much you may dislike them, are not and never have been part of the moderator's duties.

You may think you are only insulting the forum member, but truth is, you may (and have) unintentionally insulted others who have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

There are many more Moomba owners who read these forums than Moomba owners who contribute to these forums.

Please lets stop this and lets move on. Summer is almost here!

Peace

and thanks to the moderator who deleted my post on the "rules" thread - that mod edited statement really needed to disappear.

[newty]

Change is good.Just speaking for myself - being a moderator carries a lot of juice and there are some pretty handsome discounts on watersports equipment available.

I believe you were the only one that used your "title" as a means to get a discount on gear. Often making people believe you were somehow a representative of skiers choice.
As far as allowing other people to be moderators, you were a moderator and when you left you deleted every thread that had your name on it and in doing so you deleted an incredible amount of threads containing tons of valuable information because you had a "temper tantrum". All the while vowing never to return to the forum. We don't need that kind of loss or drama again.
May I also remind you, YOU are personally responsible for driving countless members away because of your childish antics and endless rule bending.
Sending members and moderators threatening messages and insulting thier spouses, then blocking the people you threatened so there can be no response.
You behavior was repugnant and it was soon forgotten or excused and you were allowed back based on a promise of good behavior.
I knew it would be short lived and here we are back to the same old Ed.
I believe if people knew who and what you are, as well as the poo storm you left in your wake upon your departure, they would have a completely different view of you and would be much less tolerant of your B.S.