Winch and Bow Roller

[JHutch]

Going to order some Trailer Items, any recommendations for a bow roller and a winch? Anyone tried the Stolz Ultimate Bow Roller? Also what size Roller for a 2008 Boatmate trailer for an XLV 3 or 4"?

Also I want to replace my winch and it is a 2 bolt Fulton. I was looking at the F2 and it looks like they are a 3 bolt?

Thanks

[trayson]

I went with the single speed enclosed Fulton F2 1600 pound.
http://www.etrailer.com/Winches/Fulton/FW16000101.html

I think the trick would be to get the 1600 pound model, not the 2000 pound. not only will that save you money ($95) but it will allow you an easy 2 bolt install!

I can't remember if I had any minor hickups on the install, but it wasn't that big of deal. I know I didn't have to do any drilling or anything like that.

The flipping from forward to reverse on this winch is SOLID and you know you're engaged. It's attractive and has that cool enclosed look. I think it's plenty of winch for my XLV. I'm very happy with my purchase.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YgW70umtqg0/VEScAYoFjoI/AAAAAAAAUmY/ogreZkfGIJE/s800/20141018_152639.jpg



Check out this video and pause it at 0:22 and you'll see what the bottom of mine looked like. I was able to use 2 bolts just fine with mine.

http://www.etrailer.com/Winches/Fulton/FW16000101.html

[liquid_acid]

Might replace mine as well. Curious on what others have good experiences with.

[Whitey]

$70.80 Amazon Prime
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIX7U4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2ANXWB1N0ZNDV&coliid=I6CUCB65Q3779

[JHutch]

Does the winch strap come installed? If not how do you get it tight in the spool?

[trayson]

$70.80 Amazon Prime
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIX7U4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2ANXWB1N0ZNDV&coliid=I6CUCB65Q3779

That's a great price.


Does the winch strap come installed? If not how do you get it tight in the spool?

I can't remember if the strap was installed or not, but I do know that I had to take the strap off to get the winch installed. Maybe for access to one of the bolt heads?

Anyway, you hook it up to your boat and start cranking. take in the slack as much as you can. keep cranking, it gets tighter and tighter. Dunno, that's what I did.

[JHutch]

Did you install this with your boat on the trailer or did you take the boat off?

Thanks for the help btw

[trayson]

Did you install this with your boat on the trailer or did you take the boat off?

Thanks for the help btw

Um, with the boat on the trailer. In the driveway. Why would I take the boat off the trailer to do this?

For what it's worth, I do have a robust safety chain on my bow. so for that first trip if there was any slippage of the webbing, I did have the bow chain. But on dry carpet, my boat doesn't move.

[mmandley]

I have the Fulton F2 Speed Winch.

http://www.amazon.com/Fulton-F2-Speed-Trailer-Winch/dp/B0036PUHN6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0TQZP4JP58X06KAATY5Y

Difference is its rated at 3200LBs and it has 2 speeds to crank it at. With our Mojo we found out we could not let the boat be running when the prop crosses the V in the trailer. <prop guard> It was simply to close a margin and had caused prop strikes.

With the 2 speeds you can really crank it up fast and when the boat gets to that last foot you can go low gear and finish the job. Anyone can do it as its always very easy to crank.

This one does require 3 holes. The factory only comes with 2 holes. I choose to ignore the 3 holes, I added larger washers to keep it from slipping and eventually it broke.

I was able to talk them into a warranty claim, but I did drill new mounting holes. Both holes did line up, and work great the rest of the summer.

I highly recommend this Winch for the Mojo and Mondo as these 2 boats do not self center well on the trailer, and due to the way they moves the boats up on the trailer to limit length on the trailer the Prop crosses the trailer guard before the boat really has a chance to self align.

As for the strap, they come with a Strap installed, we swapped the strap out for a 5K strap. Just as Trayson said, Unwind it all the way, they tend to have a slot the strap goes through. Mine has a Bolt you remove and place it thought the strap.

Side view after it broke the base of the winch.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Fulton%20Winch/IMAG0322_zpslgtwumc4.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Fulton%20Winch/IMAG0322_zpslgtwumc4.jpg.html)

Bottom of the Winch.

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu114/mmandley/Fulton%20Winch/IMAG0323_zpsairqnij1.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/user/mmandley/media/Fulton%20Winch/IMAG0323_zpsairqnij1.jpg.html)

[996scott]

just ordered the F2 for $70 from amazon. :)

[996scott]

Just installed the F2 winch. Seems like a really well made unit and a nice upgrade from the original. I ended up reusing the two original bolts and just placed a larger washer on the lower bolt. Didn't seem necessary to drill two new holes for the lower bolts.

[mmandley]

Just installed the F2 winch. Seems like a really well made unit and a nice upgrade from the original. I ended up reusing the two original bolts and just placed a larger washer on the lower bolt. Didn't seem necessary to drill two new holes for the lower bolts.

If it was designed to have the 3 bolts, and you don't use the 3 bolts, and the case breaks like mine, they will not warranty it.

Just letting you know.

[996scott]

Dang, now you have me worried. So did you then go back and drill 2 new holes for the bottom bolts, and buy longer bolts like the old ones?

[996scott]

Ok, as per mmandley suggestion I decided to drill two new holes for the bottom bolts and mount with 3 bolts and not just two. Better safe than sorry. Don't have any idea why the pictures are sideways but you get the idea.

[mmandley]

Ok, as per mmandley suggestion I decided to drill two new holes for the bottom bolts and mount with 3 bolts and not just two. Better safe than sorry. Don't have any idea why the pictures are sideways but you get the idea.

Thats exactly how I did mine. I originally though No big Deal 2 is enough. The problem is this winch is so effective at pulling the boat, you don't realize the pressure your putting on it. Then it fails..I was lucky they warrantied it but I actually had to go to the manufacturer and talk to them. The Retailer said they would not warranty it.

[Whitey]

Thats exactly how I did mine. I originally though No big Deal 2 is enough. The problem is this winch is so effective at pulling the boat, you don't realize the pressure your putting on it. Then it fails..I was lucky they warrantied it but I actually had to go to the manufacturer and talk to them. The Retailer said they would not warranty it.

Did the washer pull through and allow it to break, or was it the fact it only had 2 bolts? Looking at the pics it appears the washer gave way and folded through and then allowed pressure on the winch itself. I have an F2 I just purchased and don't really want to drill another hole, but then don't want a broken winch. If the washer folded I know how to stop that from happening.

[mmandley]

Did the washer pull through and allow it to break, or was it the fact it only had 2 bolts? Looking at the pics it appears the washer gave way and folded through and then allowed pressure on the winch itself. I have an F2 I just purchased and don't really want to drill another hole, but then don't want a broken winch. If the washer folded I know how to stop that from happening.


Yes I think the washer failed. But my point was if you break the unit and it doesn't have the 3 bolts, they will not warranty it.

What they told me was the single lower bolt applies to much pressure and caused the failure.

I'm by no means saying you can't do it with 2 abd use a large washer. I'm only warning of the warranty void issue.

[Whitey]

I agree with you about the warranty part just clarifying so I can make a decision if I want to go with 2 bolts that I know want pull through and chance it with full knowledge I'm taking a risk.

[JHutch]

I spoke with Fulton CS before I ordered my winch on Amazon and they said that it works as a 2 bolt replacement. Not sure how I will mount mine yet, but they did say it is a 2 bolt replacement.

[hsvazz]

Hi guys, appreciate this is an old thread, but i've just purchased the Fulton F2 2000 with the 3 bolt and will be mounting it in the next few weeks to replace the standard Fulton 1400 the boatmate trailers come with (we have an OBV and snapped the strap).

In drilling the two other holes like in the pictures above, would this weaken the winch post in any way shape or form? I wouldn't have a clue when it comes to the structural properties of metal.

Many thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Azz...

[996scott]

I'm no structural engineer but i don't think it is a problem at all. I have not noticed anything so far. Love the winch, so much better the the OEM one.

[hsvazz]

I'm no structural engineer but i don't think it is a problem at all. I have not noticed anything so far. Love the winch, so much better the the OEM one.

Thanks - appreciate your thoughts.

[mmandley]

I've had mine on for 3 years now and never an issue. It cranks the boat up just fine.