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skiul8r
10-18-2014, 09:33 PM
How's the slalom wake with the newer LSV's? Currently have an '02 Outback, but I have three small nieces that are starting to get into boating and water sports. The extra room with a vdrive be great, not to mention a little piece of mind with little ones on board.


Thanks.

slipperyrockTKE300
10-19-2014, 07:35 AM
I just recently spent a couple hours with a skier who owns an LSV. He was running the slalom course with it!


Really - this isn't a joke. He got some air while crossing the bigger than a DD wake, but he was able to run the course.

He to loves the fact that the LSV can carry a huge crew and quickly be configured to do whatever watersport was being requested.

I believe it was a 2012.

parrothd
10-19-2014, 10:47 AM
Yes, you get some air, I think you really need to plow thru it instead of over it, I haven't slalomed behind my LSV but others have. Here's one, running around 34-36mph, yes the water is really glassy... :) Hard to tell in the video but he's jumping about 1ft out of the water then landing..


Change the quality to hd if your computer can handle it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9x3SDnebEs&list=UU4iHW2v-FwLr8laNUDBnM0g

slipperyrockTKE300
10-19-2014, 01:53 PM
yea, the guy who owns the LSV claims to be a sponsored wakeboarder and definitely not a pro skier, but he did pretty darn well running the course behind that big 'ole boat.

I was most impressed he was able to run the course and not just be limited to free stylin' behind an LSV.

I gave him a standing ovation with some "hootin' and hollerin'"

The other boat I was out with was an older Ski Supreme. That thing is weird. People have to sit on the left side to keep the thing from listing to the right while someone is skiing.

fu-man
10-19-2014, 10:11 PM
If you are a serious slalom skier, the v drive is not for you. If you want to slalom ski recreationally it will do. If you want to get better at running the slalom course it will not do. You will have to decide what is most important to you, the wakes or the room.

The issue with the Ski Supreme about the weight balancing is very common in older smaller inboard tournament boats. It isn't as prominent in newer boats like your outback (I have an 03) but can still be an issue. If you are in the boat with another person have them squat behind the pylon and then have them move outwards on the observer's seat. You'll see a difference in the wake. My ski buddy is a nationally ranked trick skier so for him evenly balanced wakes are very important. He uses a 5 gal jug of water to balance the wakes when it is just he and I skiing whether it is in his 94 MC or my 03 outback.

BensonWdby
10-20-2014, 07:37 AM
Regarding listing - I have a 2009 MC 197 and it has a ballast tank on the passenger side behind the seat specifically to counter the weight of the driver.

Per that video - that looked like long line? and not really skiing hard - which is one of the reasons for the air.

Personally - nothing I have seen or heard suggests that a v-drive would be worth owning if you are a serious course skier. But I have never skied behind one.

parrothd
10-20-2014, 09:53 AM
Never said it was.. Lol.. If you want to slalom and have no room then you want a dd...

996scott
10-20-2014, 11:45 AM
we ski behind our 07 lsv all the time. It's a great all around boat that you can do anything in. It's not a flat wake like a DD by any means but if you are just a recreational skier out enjoying yourself the lsv it great.

SupraLaunch21V
10-20-2014, 02:51 PM
but I have three small nieces that are starting to get into boating and water sports. The extra room with a vdrive be great, not to mention a little piece of mind with little ones on board.
Thanks.

Hope you don't mind me adding my two cents - I have an '08 Supra Launch which I think is fairly similar to the M-LSV. Yes, at 34-34 mph the wake is minimal, and I run the course all the time at -22 off with it and do just fine. I think you can actually take it to shortline at -28 off but that would be about it for a V Drive.

In reading your original message, you said your neices were small and starting to get into water sports. I think you have to take into consideration that the wake at 32-34mph will not be the one they will ski on - likely 22-24 mph or lower given their age/ability and that wake ( in my opinion ) is completely different than a DD. Still - very doable, we teach people all the time behind our V Drive without any issue. And - the wife loves the space and ppl we can fit on an evening ride at the lake. We also love the high freeboard, deep salon area, front playpen and peace of mind with our little girls ( ages 2 and 4 ) playing in our boat vs other DD's.
Like I said - my two cents - i can post a video of me behind our Supra at 30 0r 32 mph if it would help.

trayson
10-29-2014, 04:20 PM
Hell, I slalom (freeskiing) behind my 23' XLV!

gregski
10-29-2014, 06:08 PM
Hell, I slalom (freeskiing) behind my 23' XLV!
You know, depending on weight of the boat, the XLV could actually have less draft (i.e. spread the weight out more, the actual vertical profile of the boat below water could be less). I looked at the moomba website and it says that the XLV weighs 3700 and the LSV weighs 3800 pounds. Is this possible? If so, the XLV is probably a better slalom machine than the LSV.

BensonWdby
10-29-2014, 10:36 PM
You can slalom behind anything. As part of our traininig we run behind an MC at 17-21 MPH on a fat-boy ski. This is trick wake territory. Just because you can does not mean you should. I have a buddy with a MC209 that is a DD 'cross-over' boat. One of the worst slalom wakes on the planet unless you are really good and running 36 mph. Otherwise it is a brick. So sure you can ski behind whatever you get and you will probably get used to it and like it. But running the course - dangerous with a huge wake.

viking
10-30-2014, 12:17 AM
You can slalom behind anything.


Isn't that the truth. Ever hear about the Southern 80 race? Tons of youtube vids out there on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnO36rc21jA