Over Engine Tray

[mbusch5]

Has anyone added an over engine warming/storage tray? I don't think its a Moomba option and I can't find aftermarket ones anywhere.

[mikenehrkorn]

As in keep my hot dog buns and baked beans warm until lunch??? Sounds like a Maxwell Smart contraption....is that really something someone uses?? Seriously though, what does one use it for?

[smorris7]

It's a Malibu option. Jacket warmer, towel warmer, rope drier, ect


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[gregski]

We contemplated putting a cargo net pocket in there. There isn't any clearance over the main part of the engine in my '07 LSV. The is some room available all the way back towards the transom but this is right over the belts and pulleys and I decided that it wasn't worth the risk of something dangling too low or falling into the moving parts. I hadn't really thought about a solid tray with a closed door - that might be an option.

[mbusch5]

Its a solid plastic tray that covers the engine compartment. Its only about 3 inches deep just enough for ropes, flag, etc. Tige has it as well. I wouldn't do a cargo net.

[mikenehrkorn]

Good idea, i guess..........for my family just seems like an accident waiting to happen!! :)

[Badfoot]

Good idea, i guess..........for my family just seems like an accident waiting to happen!! :)

I agree with you mikenehrkorn. Don't want anything that could possibly be flying around my engine.

[mbusch5]

Nothing is flying around your engine. It covers the whole engine compartment and when the hatch is down there is no way for anything to fly out or even move since it sits right over the tray. No one has seen these before???? seems like every boat I see out there has these now.

[gregski]

I'm imagining a tray like old coolers used to have that would hang from the partition rails... intriguing.

[trayson]

Like this:
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/257792.jpg

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/279664.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cdRs01Q.jpg

[mbusch5]

Yeah, the middle one on the Malibu is what i'm looking for. I will probably order one from Axis as soon as I can confirm the dimensions and make any needed modifications.

[Badfoot]

Yeah, the middle one on the Malibu is what i'm looking for. I will probably order one from Axis as soon as I can confirm the dimensions and make any needed modifications.

Let us know how it turns out.

[zabooda]

Snowmobiles have devices for keeping food warm.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CJ7568/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B006VW9P8O&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1ZP81209VCHPAK2GX9FP

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNOWMOBILE-MUFFPOT-MUFF-POT-HOT-DOG-DOGGER-FOOD-WARMER-EXHAUST-COOKER-STAINLESS-/270840837266

[cornrickey]

My sure cleaner is recessed into my hatch so it wouldn't work for me

[Badfoot]

Yeah, the middle one on the Malibu is what i'm looking for. I will probably order one from Axis as soon as I can confirm the dimensions and make any needed modifications.

Did you ever find the tray you were looking for?

[jstenger]

My buddy has a 2014 Malibu 23LSV. His tray would not fit in my LSV.

[mbusch5]

Not yet. I found an older one from a Malibu which was the right size except it was too deep. It would have touched the engine. Still on the hunt, I'm pretty sure one from an axis will work. Just haven't been on the water with my buddy at the same time to try his.

Joe....which dimensions did not work for you?

[jstenger]

If I remember corectly, it was too wide. I will try to grab it this week and take some pictures.

[mbusch5]

Bringing back an old thread, but my winter mods are coming the end and figured I would post a pic. Of all my mods this one might be the best one as far as convenience. Its nice to not have to dive head first into my lockers looking for stuff.



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[trayson]

That's pretty fantastic. what kind of boat is that tray from?

[mbusch5]

That's pretty fantastic. what kind of boat is that tray from?

Its from a Malibu. Found in the back of a wholesalers warehouse....Got it for $50. You can still order them from Malibu or Axis for like $200 (too rich for my wallet), but for the small amount of research I did it seemed like a huge hassle. Also, I don't think they come this deep anymore (6"). It did require L-brackets along the engine compartment braces to close the opening like 2" so it didn't slide around. I just attached them at the screws on the Permanent divider sections.

[brain_rinse]

Bringing back an old thread, but my winter mods are coming the end and figured I would post a pic. Of all my mods this one might be the best one as far as convenience. Its nice to not have to dive head first into my lockers looking for stuff.



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Great job! Can you share some additional details for the ones who will want to do the same? Part numbers, dimensions, etc would be great.


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[viking]

It's a great mod for sure for any v-drive that doesn't have it.
I think the key is finding a tray that is "close enough" in dimensions like you did to make it work.

[mbusch5]

Great job! Can you share some additional details for the ones who will want to do the same? Part numbers, dimensions, etc would be great.


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Sure, I'll grab some more pics and some details this week.

[mbusch5]

Great job! Can you share some additional details for the ones who will want to do the same? Part numbers, dimensions, etc would be great.


Here is some more info..I think my pics are a little turned around.

I had to do a bit of patch work on the tray to fill in some holes and cuts that were made. I just used Plexiglas, fiber tape, and epoxy.

The tray sits on flanges so the "tub" portion is 26.5" wide and my engine compartment is 29" from brace to brace. I got some 4' steel L-channel (can't think of a better name) and cut them down to 3' (depth of my engine compartment) to run the length of the existing braces on both sides. I got ones wider than the engine brace to decrease the width.

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I attached the them using the 2 existing screws for the "permanent" parts of the engine dividers. This brought the width to 27" so there wasn't much play for the tray to slide side to side and fall into the engine. I also used some spacers to push the L-channel out more. I still have access to the removable portion of the engine divider. All the weight actually still sits on the engine braces my L-channels only keep it from sliding.

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I also placed commercial strength Velcro along the back bench wall on both sides of the ski pylon to keep it from sliding front to back, but honestly the weight of the cover would hold it too.

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Last I just made hole for the cover hinge to attach. I may still cut a slot through the flange so I don't have to pop the hinge off to take the tray out, but really I never need to unless I am doing maintenance in my garage.

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[BrettLee3232]

This is an awesome mod and I want to do it!


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[BrettLee3232]

Anyone else do this mod yet? I love my buddy's tray in his MB.


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[trayson]

Anyone else do this mod yet? I love my buddy's tray in his MB.


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What does he use it for? I'm thinking that warming up the leftover pizza in a ziplock would be a good bet. but I'm not sure I'd want anything there that'd get subjected to the engine fumes. And certainly nothing in there that was susceptible to heat damage...

[BrettLee3232]

What does he use it for? I'm thinking that warming up the leftover pizza in a ziplock would be a good bet. but I'm not sure I'd want anything there that'd get subjected to the engine fumes. And certainly nothing in there that was susceptible to heat damage...

He keeps life vests, dock line, surf rope, flag etc. It's nice to not be able to dig to find stuff when you forget your ballast is already full. Seems like I always forget my life vest and have to muscle it out between my bag and engine panel haha.

The more storage the better. Not sure I would use it as a pizza oven though lol


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[trayson]

He keeps life vests, dock line, surf rope, flag etc. It's nice to not be able to dig to find stuff when you forget your ballast is already full. Seems like I always forget my life vest and have to muscle it out between my bag and engine panel haha.

The more storage the better. Not sure I would use it as a pizza oven though lol


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I wonder how hot it gets in that tray. that would be my concern. Oh, and having your life vest smell like engine fumes.

[BrettLee3232]

I wonder how hot it gets in that tray. that would be my concern. Oh, and having your life vest smell like engine fumes.

I kept mine in it all weekend. Didn't get hot but it was warm putting it on. Would be nice on colder days. Didn't smell like anything to be honest. He even had the oil cap come off and had 2 quarts of oil in his bilge and nothing in there smelled. I thought for sure it would of.


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[mattsask]

I attached a cargo net to the inside of the hatch. I store 4 large dock bumpers and my ropes in there. Works great.

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[BrettLee3232]

I attached a cargo net to the inside of the hatch. I store 4 large dock bumpers and my ropes in there. Works great.

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Have a picture? Curios how the bumpers look/fit.


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[mattsask]

Have a picture? Curios how the bumpers look/fit.


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Boat is out at the cottage. I'll snap some pics when I get out there in a few days. It's fastened at top and bottom and both sides are bungee cord style. I slide everything in the side. I'm planning to add some in both rear lockers, but so far haven't been able to find small enough cargo nets.

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[BrettLee3232]

Boat is out at the cottage. I'll snap some pics when I get out there in a few days. It's fastened at top and bottom and both sides are bungee cord style. I slide everything in the side. I'm planning to add some in both rear lockers, but so far haven't been able to find small enough cargo nets.

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Gotcha, thanks!


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[viking]

to me this is a feature that every v-drive should have and don't know why all the manufacturers don't do it?
Don't ever see an issue with aroma as quite frankly the dividers have enough openings around them that if that were an issue both rear lockers would get exposed so see that as a non-issue. A great place for ropes, gear and vest or 2 with easy access. The trick for a diy retro fit is finding a tray that is close to the dimensions needed! Definitely on my Winter to-do list.

[trayson]

Boat is out at the cottage. I'll snap some pics when I get out there in a few days. It's fastened at top and bottom and both sides are bungee cord style. I slide everything in the side. I'm planning to add some in both rear lockers, but so far haven't been able to find small enough cargo nets.

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this is my setup on the rear lockers. it's a small and a medium. works great. on the port side, I have the surf rope in the medium and I have docking lines with carabiners in the small. on the starboard side, I have the wakeboard line in the medium and a handful of ski gloves in the small.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vy9WrI15K0g/VUEC14vvtuI/AAAAAAAAYvM/N5JyH7hyqZkURvGiHqX7A0yoT9xocqvzACCo/s800/20150418_171730.jpg

I also put a small cargo net on the underside of the starboard seat cushion and that holds coozies and cheap "boat sunglasses", I put another small on the back of the observer swing out door and that's been home to a couple of kitchen size trash bags and a long 3.5mm extension cord to link up with another boat via the WS420sq. Lastly, I have another small that's above the driver's floor cupholders. that one has a couple coozies for me and a pair of light gloves and a beanie.

[letitsnow]

Works awesome! Lots of storage. 1/2 starboard and two aluminum angles too hold in place

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[letitsnow]

Works awesome! Lots of storage. 1/2 starboard and two aluminum angles too hold in place

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[trayson]

Works awesome! Lots of storage. 1/2 starboard and two aluminum angles too hold in place

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do you have pictures? I can imagine what it looks like, but would love to see it.

[letitsnow]

evidently i dont have enough posts on here so they wont let me post pics?

[letitsnow]

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[BrettLee3232]

evidently i dont have enough posts on here so they wont let me post pics?

Ughhhhh, what a tease lol


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[davewfo]

Great idea after doing some research I might have one made like the one below. My buddy has the Malibu plastic tray and it works great except for being shallow. Think you might be able to make it deeper to hold a few life vests.

Engine Storage Tray Make out of Aluminum
http://www.themalibucrew.com/index.php?/forums/topic/49198-engine-storage-traypizza-pan/&page=2


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[trayson]

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That looks rad. how much did you spend in materials?

[mattsask]

Have a picture? Curios how the bumpers look/fit.


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[BrettLee3232]

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Wow, that's a big net. Looks good! I might try and have one made out of aluminum and cover with the bed liner paint. Pending cost of course.


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[gregski]

That looks like it's a disaster waiting to happen... Take a look at the motor right around that white dangling rope. See all the turning parts?

[mattsask]

That looks like it's a disaster waiting to happen... Take a look at the motor right around that white dangling rope. See all the turning parts?
The ten inch "dangling" rope that's attached to the bumper? That's not going anywhere.

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[letitsnow]

I spent 75$ on the 1/2" board and 15$ on aluminum angles. drilled two holes in the back corners for water too go out. this adds alot of space!

[trayson]

I spent 75$ on the 1/2" board and 15$ on aluminum angles. drilled two holes in the back corners for water too go out. this adds alot of space!

Okay, based on your idea I went and built one for myself. I only had the depth for mine to be 2 1/2" for most of it, tapering to 3" towards the bow. I used 1/4" HDPE to keep the costs down. About $10 in aluminum angle and $60 for the two sheets of 24x36 HDPE. I already had the stainless screws.

I don't have a front or back wall on my "tray" because they go flush against the walls of the engine compartment. The rear tray has a piece of hdpe under the bottom to form a lip so the floor of the forward tray dovetails against the floor of the rear tray. Because there's no forward or rear walls, there was no need to cut out for the shock mount. only cut the floor out around the ski pylon. and the floor actually rests on the big nut for the engine compartment lid latch.

Because my HDPE was 1/4", it was more susecptible to not having the sides to floor square, so I used some of the angle to reenforce the right angle of the floor to side wall junction. Likewise, because my HDPE was only 1/4" thick, I used my air grinder to hack off the tips of the screws that were poking through the HDPE.

Lastly, on the front tray, I put some nylon webbing along the sides to form a pair of "handles" so I had something to grip when I wanted to remove the front tray. The front tray comes out first, then the rear.

Mine is deep enough to fit ropes or even the throw cushion. All in all a nice upgrade.

Webbing "handle":
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_201238_zpshqnwrlu9.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_201157_zpsu93ouxsi.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_202841_zps7cgyadyb.jpg

The shadow makes it look like there's a hole under the latch against the pylon, but the hdpe snugs right up against that latch. unless something was the size of spare change, it's not going to fall through into the engine compartment.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_201052_zpsuuuceoqg.jpg

[letitsnow]

Looks great Trayson! Gotta love more storage

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[gregski]

Trayson, does the cover on the XLV have a recessed area in it? On my LSV, there is a little recessed box just aft of the pylon. I assume that it is there to allow clearance with something in the engine bay but I haven't really looked that closely.

[trayson]

Trayson, does the cover on the XLV have a recessed area in it? On my LSV, there is a little recessed box just aft of the pylon. I assume that it is there to allow clearance with something in the engine bay but I haven't really looked that closely.

No, it doesn't. it's completely flat aside from the hardware sticking out from it for the latch on the handle. You can barely see it in this picture:
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_202841_zps7cgyadyb.jpg

Maybe your boat had the hardware removed for the latching mechanism on that engine cover?


If it makes a difference, I have the 340 CAT engine.

[MJHSupra]

Since I use both back ballast bags when surfing, I'm looking for room.
I could see throwing dock lines, bumpers, wake ropes, extra life vests or throw cushions, etc.

Good idea.

[trayson]

Since I use both back ballast bags when surfing, I'm looking for room.
I could see throwing dock lines, bumpers, wake ropes, extra life vests or throw cushions, etc.

Good idea.

I don't have as much clearance on my XLV with the 340 CAT engine. I was able to get 2.5" rear and 3" of depth in the front. For me, the limiting factors were the top of the wakeplate hydraulic reservoir, the metal tubes coming off the O2 sensors on my exhaust risers, and even the top of the intake manifold itself. The newer boats obviously have deeper lockers for the engine and v-drive lockers.

But it's deep enough I can fit lines, handles, throw cusion; and hopefully some leftover pizza.

[996scott]

I would love to do this on my 07 LSV but with the plastic hood over the engine there is no room at all. The back 1/3 maybe has some room but there is no way to cover the whole engine compartment. I guess I could take the hood off, it really isn't anything that needs to be there right?

[trayson]

I would love to do this on my 07 LSV but with the plastic hood over the engine there is no room at all. The back 1/3 maybe has some room but there is no way to cover the whole engine compartment. I guess I could take the hood off, it really isn't anything that needs to be there right?

You would have much less "ASSAULT"!!!!!!! LOL. I can't imagine anything the cover does other than look Purdy.

You could make a partial shelf/box. it wouldn't be hard at all to engineer a stopper so it didn't slide forward.