Mondo Surf Wake??

[Doublea]

I have a 14 Mondo with the flow surf and can not get the surf wake like my XLV. Anyone have tips/tricks etc. Thanks for the help.

[saskyrider]

I upgraded my stock bags to 750s in the rear and added an ibs bag under the seats in the nose. Fill everything full and regular wave is very nice.. for goofy wave drain about 1/2 of the non surf side and away you go.. wakeplate between 1/2 and all the way up and

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[saskyrider]

About 10 mph.. is where were at for speed.

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[Mrd8ker]

I did the same on my Mondo but put in 900s and don't fill them all of the way. Very surfable.

[spader]

So I have yet to upgrade my Mondo rear ballast bags. 750s or 900s?

[marman]

So I have yet to upgrade my Mondo rear ballast bags. 750s or 900s?

If I had the flow I would want 750's. I don't have the flow and I have the Sumo 900's. The 900's flex the walls about 1/2-1" when full. I have a little trouble draining them as well mainly due to the location of the drain port (I have check valves installed on everything). Also have the 650 ibs. I surf goofy and it's a good wave. Would like to have the flow mainly due to making it easier to drive.

[saskyrider]

I have the flow and i think the 750's are plenty... i am going to experiment with a couple of old 400lb bags though. I'm going to put one under the seat behind the drivers seat and fill it as much as it can under there without popping the seat cushion up. And then fill the reg. side rear bag all the way instead of just 1/2. Funny thing is even with the regular side bag only half full using the flow will still make a nice regular wave. I have had 8 adults in the boat and full ballast and the wave was amazing! did she suck fuel though!!! hah

[WhiskeyRunner]

Doublea- I have a 2014 Mondo and I'm still not 100% satisfied with mine either. I've upgraded the surf side sac to 750, 1/2 full non surf side (factory sac), and full bow (factory sac) with the trim 3/4 down, the surf gate and upgraded sac made a HUGE difference.

From folks I've talked to; having a shorter boat puts a major disadvantage to the wake. I find I have a nice short wave, but the length isn't there. Good enough for fun runs, but not if you want to get serious. I found speeding up the boat made a huge difference, I run higher than most on this forum at 12mph. here's the only video I have of the wake at the moment, at the end you get a good idea of how short my "sweet spot" is. i find I run really close to the boat (as in my friend hands me beers) to about 5 ft back, and then I don't have enough to keep me in the wake.

I called wakesetters and bought a Tsunami pump, I'm going to try and re-use my factory sac and put it near the bow to see if I can get more of the boat in the water and elongate that wave.... but I'm also open to suggestions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAqtK5FvLhA&index=1&list=UUmzc1rhJBkZE99JXFogbx3w

[Mrd8ker]

I am curious to see how this works for you. I too would like to lengthen the wave in the Mondo. Even with IBS I feel like I might need more weight in the bow.

I am also having to run faster (12 mph) than most guys on here to clean up the wake. I have checked the speedo with gps.

Will be eagerly awaiting an update. :D

[sioux]

I have a 2014 Mondo. I fill a 900 on the surf side flow all the way down and 9mph. Awesome wake. Hope this helps.

[Mrd8ker]

sioux - any bow weight? Sounds like you are basically listing with flow which I thought put flow too deep in the water to be effective.

[sverma44]

fwiw, on our mondo we notice a big difference between water depth >6ft (great wake!!) vs <4 ft (backwash). not sure what depth you're driving at, but worth keeping in mind, deeper seems to be much better.

[mbusch5]

Anyone know if the 750 bow sac fits the 14 Mondo? Looks like everyone runs the 650, but I'm concerned about the height...the 750(straightline) is only 8 inches and the 650(flyhigh) is 12. Any issues with the 650 fit?

[saskyrider]

With mine the only pinch point is right as it runs around the nose.... the legs have tons of room. I would go with the 750 or I think axis has a bigger nose bag yet.... fill it as full as you can and giver

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[mbusch5]

Cool....750 it is then.....thanks.

[mbusch5]

saskyrider - do you have pics of your wave? I am debating on getting the Flow or custom sacs made and keep listing. I like the ease of the Flow and would rather not take up all my storage with sacs. I currently run 750's in the rear, 450 on the seat behind driver (i'm goofy) and the other 450 in the bow with 100 Lbs of lead until I get my 750 IBS. Since they would cost the same if I can get a good wave with the flow then I would go that route.

[jkeld78]

20952
Here is a pick of my wave that I love by the way from my mondo
750's rear 650ibs 3 people in the boat flow all the down wakeplate 3/4 up
Speed not GPS checked 10.8 hope this helps

[mbusch5]

20952
Here is a pick of my wave that I love by the way from my mondo
750's rear 650ibs 3 people in the boat flow all the down wakeplate 3/4 up
Speed not GPS checked 10.8 hope this helps



Looks really good. Cleaner than I get listing.....Is the goofy side as nice?

[saskyrider]

Here is the best goofy side pic i have at the moment. I have some better pics on my camera this is just off my phone. And for reference that is my niece and she is 5 ft tall. Notice she is at the end of the surf rope and its let all the way out.

the other pic is me surfing
cheers

[mbusch5]

Thanks for the pics....really appreciate it....I think I might go with the flow....looks like we have the same interior color scheme....

[saskyrider]

honestly i've been very happy with the flow, it just took a little bit of dialing in. I'm coming from an 05 LSV that i had to sack out like crazy to get a good wave. This is so nice not having bags everywhere! I am considering getting a custom bag made for the goofy side like an Enzo sack that would run up underneath the seat on the drivers side. Then you just fill everything and go.

I believe the perfect set up would be as follows

750 regular surf side rear locker
1000 Enzo type bag in goofy rear locker
500 bag under floor full
950 Axis A24 nose bag. (the 750 Axis nose bag is 289.00 and the 950 is 329 so for $30.00 bucks you get 200 lbs even if you can't use it all)

I believe that this would give you a fantastic wave both sides without anything exposed, and with the minimum amount of people as well.

[WhiskeyRunner]

mbusch5- being nosey on the thread, I thought I'd share my experience. I bought a Mondo '14 w/o the flow originally and tried to surf. I had stock weight; port ballast full, starboard 1/2 full, and the bow full with 3 adults... and had some limited success. I found the sweet spot for surfing very small, little room for error.

A month later, I went back to the dealer and added the flow. Even with the standard ballast set up, I found an instant improvement to the wave. Everything from the definition to the length was better. The sweet spot tripled, and we were able to start surfing immediately. It solved 90% of our challenges. In my opinion, it's an expensive option, but necessary if you are going to get into surfing.

Two things to remember- 1. it's easy to forget that the flow is deployed after your done surfing, and you have to be careful not to take off for home and rip it off your transom. 2. Be prepared to become obsessed with the wave and spend another couple hundred bucks on extra sacks while you tinker with mastering the wave.

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I had hesitated with the investment myself and thought this would help.

[mbusch5]

Thanks for the info.

I measured and got a quote from wakemakers for custom sacs and it was $400-$500 and would be just around 1000 pounds. Thought about doing that for both sides but I would still need some extra help with listing so I think I will go with the flow and then think about upgrading my 750's later.

My plan is to run:
750's in the rear lockers and add 100 of lead to each side.
400 center hard tank
750 bow sac
Flow

Do you think the 900 axis bag will fit in our bow?

[mbusch5]

mbusch5- being nosey on the thread, I thought I'd share my experience. I bought a Mondo '14 w/o the flow originally and tried to surf. I had stock weight; port ballast full, starboard 1/2 full, and the bow full with 3 adults... and had some limited success. I found the sweet spot for surfing very small, little room for error.

A month later, I went back to the dealer and added the flow. Even with the standard ballast set up, I found an instant improvement to the wave. Everything from the definition to the length was better. The sweet spot tripled, and we were able to start surfing immediately. It solved 90% of our challenges. In my opinion, it's an expensive option, but necessary if you are going to get into surfing.

Two things to remember- 1. it's easy to forget that the flow is deployed after your done surfing, and you have to be careful not to take off for home and rip it off your transom. 2. Be prepared to become obsessed with the wave and spend another couple hundred bucks on extra sacks while you tinker with mastering the wave.

Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I had hesitated with the investment myself and thought this would help.

Thanks WhiskeyRunner, I am just so used to listing the boat so I want to make sure the flow is going to be worth it. Listing has been the choice for myself and my crew I go with for 2 years now, but the advancement of the systems can't be ignored. I mainly want it for the ease and consistency....listing is so tempermental to conditions and people on the boat. Plus i hate to give up all my storage for custom sacs. Thankfully my dealer is a friend of mine so he will be coming over and helping to install it in my garage to avoid the labor cost.

Thanks for the input everyone....probably won't happen until after the holidays but I will post some pics of the install...

[saskyrider]

I would doubt that it will fill all the way but i think you'd get more than 750 in it. If your going with the 750's and lead you can play around and see if the lead works better in the nose or the rear. IMO the flow is a no brainer. the convenience when driving is amazing compared to leaned right over. You can still play with extra weight on either side but i can tell you that if you were to surf with 750's in the rear IBS up front and everything full the regular wave is very very nice... needs no adjustment at all. You just need more weight on surfing goofy side. I think that 400 for a custom bag is something i'm going to go for..

cheers

[MoombaYYC]

Not sure if anyone reads these posts anymore, but the last couple of years I have been playing around with my 2014 Moomba Mondo to maximize the wake. I replaced the rear 400 lbs bags with 750 lbs bags. I refitted the hoses on the 400 lbs bags to be used with a Tsunami pump. One bag goes in the Bow on the floor, the other goes on the surfer side on top of the 750 lbs bag. The 350 lbs integrated bow/hull bladder is full. I can surf on the non-driver side with only a driver in the boat. The wake is plenty steep enough, and goes back far enough - considering I weigh 250 lbs, this is a great wake. We play with the trim to each individual riders preference, and the Flow Plate is wide open.

However, I am never fully satisfied. I am now considering the following options to improve the ride:
1. Instead of having two bags on the surf side, I am thinking about upgrading to 1,000 lbs bags for each side. Simplify the filling up process.
2. Adding an integrated Bow bag for a longer wake (probably 300-400 lbs) - currently the boat has an 350 lbs bladder built into the bow hull.
3. Been thinking of making the Flow Plates a bit larger. There are a few wake systems that you can attach to the side of your boats that are cleaning up the wave really well. I think if the Flow Plate was a bit larger, it too could assist with a cleaner wake.
4. And for the Ultimate upgrade - adding an Wake Control System - For example - https://www.wakemakers.com/wavecontrol. I am not sure why I can not find the current Moomba Mondo system for sale to upgrade my boat.

If you have any questions on the set-up, or have any suggestions on my next upgrade venture - I would be please to connect.

[BrettLee3232]

Not sure if anyone reads these posts anymore, but the last couple of years I have been playing around with my 2014 Moomba Mondo to maximize the wake. I replaced the rear 400 lbs bags with 750 lbs bags. I refitted the hoses on the 400 lbs bags to be used with a Tsunami pump. One bag goes in the Bow on the floor, the other goes on the surfer side on top of the 750 lbs bag. The 350 lbs integrated bow/hull bladder is full. I can surf on the non-driver side with only a driver in the boat. The wake is plenty steep enough, and goes back far enough - considering I weigh 250 lbs, this is a great wake. We play with the trim to each individual riders preference, and the Flow Plate is wide open.

However, I am never fully satisfied. I am now considering the following options to improve the ride:
1. Instead of having two bags on the surf side, I am thinking about upgrading to 1,000 lbs bags for each side. Simplify the filling up process.
2. Adding an integrated Bow bag for a longer wake (probably 300-400 lbs) - currently the boat has an 350 lbs bladder built into the bow hull.
3. Been thinking of making the Flow Plates a bit larger. There are a few wake systems that you can attach to the side of your boats that are cleaning up the wave really well. I think if the Flow Plate was a bit larger, it too could assist with a cleaner wake.
4. And for the Ultimate upgrade - adding an Wake Control System - For example - https://www.wakemakers.com/wavecontrol. I am not sure why I can not find the current Moomba Mondo system for sale to upgrade my boat.

If you have any questions on the set-up, or have any suggestions on my next upgrade venture - I would be please to connect.

I have a 15 mondo with 900 rears 250 under port seat & 750ibs. Wave is money.

As far as the OEM for the AutoFlow it's www.wakelandmfg.com

They sell an aftermarket kit. You would need to re glass where your old manual plates are. Or you could do the WaveControl from WakeMakers which is GoSurfAssist. mmandley has that system on his mojo with great results. There's a thread floating around with his install. It's all the same system MB is using now.


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[BrettLee3232]

Mojo 2.5 is getting the Wake Makers Wave Control

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[JD14Mondo]

I have the manual flow on my 2014. 900 rears and 750 IBS. With only a driver it makes a great wave. I have thought about a wave control system, but I think will keep the Mondo and upgrade boats in a few years. There are new systems and upgrades coming out all the time. When I do make a change I want all the new toys.

[saskyrider]

I have the manual flow on my 2014. 900 rears and 750 IBS. With only a driver it makes a great wave. I have thought about a wave control system, but I think will keep the Mondo and upgrade boats in a few years. There are new systems and upgrades coming out all the time. When I do make a change I want all the new toys.
Will the 900's fill all the way? I have the 750s and it seems like there is lots of room left

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[BrettLee3232]

Will the 900's fill all the way? I have the 750s and it seems like there is lots of room left

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My 9s fill all the way (I think).


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[saskyrider]

My 9s fill all the way (I think).


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Thank you sir!! Winter upgrade coming up!

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