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Beejwest
07-19-2014, 09:40 PM
Finally got sick and tired of pulling my bags and the mats I installed in lieu of floor carpeting each time to dry the lockers. The friggin thing stills stunk like that center locker nastymat that we all threw away. So, I took some advice from here and used Herculiner. Except I pulled all the carpet from the rear lockers. Gone. NO more wet carpet back there. First coat is currently drying.

The worst part was the prep. I have 11 solid hours in prep just getting rid of the carpet glue SC used. Whatever it is, I want some, because it doesn't want to come off. I scraped and rubbed, and used a ton of Goo Gone. I wanted to step up to something a bit more hardcore to remove it, but solvent I looked at said don't use it on fiberglass. So I used elbow grease instead. It sucked, but it's almost done, and water will just run to bilge now instead of piling up in the corners of the locker.

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Beejwest
07-19-2014, 09:43 PM
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That last one is for giggles. I couldn't take my boat out today, so I made my buddy haul me around behind is '14 Nautique G21.

Beejwest
07-19-2014, 09:46 PM
Oh and the worst part was this install kept me from putting in all the sweet blue LED's I got from Oznium.

Sharpshooter
07-19-2014, 10:29 PM
Nice job


2013 Moomba LSV

rdlangston13
07-19-2014, 11:31 PM
so what if you were to just put the herculiner down over the glue???

Beejwest
07-19-2014, 11:52 PM
In hindsight, I probably would have. At least on the sides. The bottom glue came up really easily. The glue on the sides probably would have been fine to cover, as it was pretty hard. I don't think it would have been absorbent, or messed up the herculiner in any way, but once I had some solvent on the side walls that glue turned to mushy, jelly, goop that took forever to clean off. Basically I was committed at that point.

Rakkasan
07-20-2014, 09:56 AM
Nice. That next on my list of things to do. So do you think it would have been ok to cover the glue and it come out smooth?

Beejwest
07-20-2014, 12:30 PM
I think the glue would be OK to cover. Smooth, I'm not so sure. The herculiner is thick, but not so much it will hide everything. However, no one is gonna be running inspections back there so, it's how much you care about aesthetics. Maybe someone with more knowledge of chemicals/paint can comment on the herc over glue?

spyder
07-20-2014, 01:05 PM
Good job. Looks awesome. Could never get 11 hours away from the wife and kids to do this though. But I'd love to. Its always soaked back there.

jstenger
07-20-2014, 01:08 PM
I had a minor problem with enamel paint over the glue. I removed the rear covers at the back of the ski lockers and painted the bare fiberglass black. At the carpet edge, where there was exposed glue, the paint took a couple weeks to dry.

996scott
07-20-2014, 07:22 PM
wow, nice job. I replaced the carpet on the floor with a rubber matting and it is great not to deal with the wet carpets for sure.

Beejwest
07-20-2014, 07:58 PM
Yeah I had the rubber mat too, but I never glued it down so it was always wet underneath it. Terrible messy. Here are the second coat pics!2042920430

spyder
07-21-2014, 11:27 AM
that looks factory.. well done, you could even place a rubber type mat (Heavy cow mats maybe) down if you didn't want to risk your bags rubbing on the rough finish?

spyder
07-21-2014, 12:37 PM
Yeah I had the rubber mat too, but I never glued it down so it was always wet underneath it. Terrible messy. Here are the second coat pics!2042920430

are you putting the flip up walls back in the lockers to block the bags from the engine?

also, did you put that herculiner right up to under the rail?

Beejwest
07-21-2014, 08:36 PM
Ya the factory panels are going back in. I just didn't have time to install them before work. I think I'll see how the bags do for an outing before I do any mat under them. The liner is rough, but those bags don't move a lot. Any small, tbin rubber mat would work well though. I went clear up to the rub rails and coated them as well. It was a natural stopping point.

ninedriver
07-21-2014, 10:05 PM
I've seen a few guys on here use the herculiner in the lockers and I was also wondering about the roughness / texture and if it would damage the sacs. I guess you could always put some carpet in there to protect the sacs (lol, jk).

Anyone know if they make bedliner without the texture? Or if the two part epoxy for garage floors would work?

brain_rinse
07-21-2014, 11:14 PM
Fat sacs are made from white water raft material so bed liner isn't going to harm them.

spyder
07-21-2014, 11:39 PM
Either way you could slam some rubber mat down under it if it made you feel better.

Rakkasan
07-22-2014, 11:31 AM
Or if the two part epoxy for garage floors would work?

I don't think it would work. I put that coating in my shop and had to etch the concrete several time so it would adhere and not come up later. If you put it down on fiberglass I feel when it dried it wouldn't stick and would just peel up.

spyder
08-12-2014, 05:45 PM
so after being at the lake all last week.. my boat was never dry and the lockers absolutely soaked... I want to try to do this after the season before I store for the winter..

Anyone have any suggestions to remove the glue quicker... without harming the boat...
With twins under a year old and a wife screaming at me I unfortunately do not have 11 available hours to do this.. lol

brain_rinse
08-12-2014, 05:50 PM
When the carpet is soaked it pulls out easier and brings more adhesive with it in my experience. My total time was only a few hours tops. I used a razor scraper then acetone to get the remaining adhesive off.

spyder
09-02-2014, 03:02 PM
is this the right kind of stuff to buy? preparing for the off-season!

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/dupli-color-bed-armor-truck-bed-liner-quart-0478002p.html

some prices are crazy!
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/dupli-color-bed-armor-truck-bed-liner-gallon-kit-0478001p.html
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/truck-bed-liner-kit/817965

bergermaister
09-02-2014, 03:30 PM
When the carpet is soaked it pulls out easier and brings more adhesive with it in my experience.

I'm wondering if hot/boiling water may be the ticket? Also an off-season plan.

brain_rinse
09-02-2014, 03:58 PM
Or heat gun maybe?

Beejwest
09-02-2014, 04:32 PM
I went with Herculiner because it was $40 cheaper than the Duplicolor. It is still going strong, no rips or tears. No mold, no stinky mess. Definitely buy the gallon if you plan to coat the sides. The herculiner instructions say to thin it with Xylene. Xylene removes adhesive/grease very well, but is apparently hard on fiberglass. I never needed to thin my liner as the coats were quick and temps were cool. But inna few small spots I did use Xylene to clear some built up glue. It didn't seem to harm the fiberglass, bit I spilled about a cup on my swim deck and it permanently stained the factory rubber mat. I would use caution with any strong solvent around fiberglass.

spyder
09-02-2014, 05:18 PM
I went with Herculiner because it was $40 cheaper than the Duplicolor. It is still going strong, no rips or tears. No mold, no stinky mess. Definitely buy the gallon if you plan to coat the sides. The herculiner instructions say to thin it with Xylene. Xylene removes adhesive/grease very well, but is apparently hard on fiberglass. I never needed to thin my liner as the coats were quick and temps were cool. But inna few small spots I did use Xylene to clear some built up glue. It didn't seem to harm the fiberglass, bit I spilled about a cup on my swim deck and it permanently stained the factory rubber mat. I would use caution with any strong solvent around fiberglass.

good to know, can't seem to find Herculiner in Canada... anyone have a source?

Beejwest
09-02-2014, 09:39 PM
Probably just have to order it....


http://www.amazon.com/Herculiner-HCL1B8-Brush-Bed-Liner/dp/B0002TDUW4

spyder
09-02-2014, 11:19 PM
Probably just have to order it....


http://www.amazon.com/Herculiner-HCL1B8-Brush-Bed-Liner/dp/B0002TDUW4


no dice.. no shipping to Canada..


Sorry, this item can't be shipped to your selected address


This is what we had at Canadian Tire

http://i.imgur.com/eIbNOdtl.jpg

spyder
09-18-2014, 09:56 AM
pulled up the bottom carpet in one of my lockers so far, pulled off easy, not a lot of glue left behind... only did maybe 5 minutes of scraping and cleaned with shopvac.. i'll probably still try to glue it up a bit more.

http://i.imgur.com/wF608w6l.jpg

spyder
09-18-2014, 04:48 PM
Heads Up, if you're in Canada.. the Dupli-Color bed liner is on sale for $90 reg $129 at Canadian Tire..

i'm reading mixed reviews on it though, although it's not taking the abuse an actual truck bed liner would take.

reeder
09-18-2014, 07:09 PM
Good to know, I'll definitely be doing this as well, that carpet back there is a real pain in the arse.

spyder
09-19-2014, 06:19 PM
Is this stuff too strong? I don't want to burn through my hull like the acid in aliens.
http://i.imgur.com/LrqbBoGl.jpg

Rakkasan
09-19-2014, 08:52 PM
Is this stuff too strong? I don't want to burn through my hull like the acid in aliens.
http://i.imgur.com/LrqbBoGl.jpg

I'm redoing my floor with Hydro Turf and bought the same thing to get the glue off. So far I've used it on wood, aluminum, and fiberglass and it doesn't hurt the surface at all. But does take some elbow grease to get the gule off.

But it was only $19 at my HomeDepot

spyder
09-19-2014, 10:20 PM
I'm redoing my floor with Hydro Turf and bought the same thing to get the glue off. So far I've used it on wood, aluminum, and fiberglass and it doesn't hurt the surface at all. But does take some elbow grease to get the gule off.

But it was only $19 at my HomeDepot

Canadian pricing..

haven't decided about doing the sides yet..

about an hours work scraping with my tanto blade knife and some soapy water later left me with this..

http://i.imgur.com/kkdvGT9l.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/N8on398l.jpg

I just want to note, QC at Moomba's factory is shit... the plastic boards that protect the locker from the engine.. the screws were put in so crooked, they stick out the side...

pictures tomorrow.

spyder
09-20-2014, 10:21 AM
Quality work by Skiers Choice right here.. all of the boards had screws the same way.. I sure hope the guys who do this work aren't the ones who put the rest of the boat together.

http://i.imgur.com/OYWCE9ol.jpg

spyder
10-03-2014, 07:52 AM
since the just did the floor on mine for now, anyone have any advice on a good carpet glue to stick the wall carpet back on decently? nothing too messy, in case i want to remove it and bed liner the sides later.

wolfeman131
10-03-2014, 09:55 AM
3M spray adhesive

ninedriver
10-03-2014, 10:10 AM
x2^^ 3M Super 77
make sure you spray the side wall and spray the carpet. Then be sure to wait 30 seconds to a minute before sticking the two together. I like to use a j-roller .
http://www.lowes.com/pd_290286-16878-52015_0__?productId=3030691

spyder
10-06-2014, 11:20 PM
couple of complaints, the rear dividers are no longer long enough to reach because of the removal of the carpet thickness, so i needed to use some thin rubber i have laying around... and the fiberglass is absolutely garbage in the moomba in the rear locker floor... had to drill new holes and they still spun and won't hold..

spyder
05-04-2015, 11:24 AM
i've dedicated a bit more time to this since out of storage... i've removed all carpeting in the rear storage lockers... still need to remove the glue from the walls..goo gone wasn't working for me.. will stop by store tonight and look for something better

spyder
05-06-2015, 05:13 PM
btw, even more evidence my boat was built a on Friday afternoon...

http://i.imgur.com/EgyUYkel.jpg

every screw for the rub rail i assume missed the mark on the inside of the boat that it was supposed to go into...

spyder
05-08-2015, 02:14 PM
well my adventure into goo gone and the rear storage lockers has not been fun.. the amount of gooey glue that balls up.. and keeps appearing is unbearable.. no way to scrape it off has left me wondering why i started this..

wolfeman131
05-08-2015, 03:16 PM
just close the hatch & enjoy the fumes . . . .

spyder
05-08-2015, 03:20 PM
just close the hatch & enjoy the fumes . . . .

i'm currently in the house... refusing to look at the boat... lol

kaneboats
05-08-2015, 03:25 PM
Mine only had a little residue. Most of it came up with the carpet. I put my new mats down over what was left. I did not glue them cuz I want to be able to take them out and wash them real good every couple of months. Not like they are going to blow out or anything.

newty
05-08-2015, 03:38 PM
Acetone, or MEK will work better than goo gone.

spyder
05-08-2015, 04:22 PM
Acetone, or MEK will work better than goo gone.

Will it wreck the raw inside fiberglass?

kaneboats
05-08-2015, 11:35 PM
I used a lot of acetone with my hydroturf clean up. I think you are good to go. On my big stainless gas tank cover panels I ended up using a lot of mineral spirits. That worked pretty good too. Not sure on the fiberglass though.