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uniwarking
05-21-2014, 11:59 PM
Alright, I'm asking for some help here dialing in my wave. I've got a '13 Mojo, without the flow. I must start by saying that I'm a total newby to surfing and I'm riding a Hyperlite Broadcast (longest model).

My first time out a this year, just a couple weeks back, we ran with the stock ballast and didn't have much luck... especially on the goofy side. Regular side looked ok but the wave was small.

Since then, I placed an order with Wakemakers... I've added an IBS (~650#) and I've upgraded the rears to 900# Sumos.

Tonight was only my second time out, it was just my wife, son and I in the boat and we only tried the goofy side... since that's my side. I filled the center tank, IBS and surf side sumo bag completely and left the non surf side empty. We toyed with speed, running 10.5 ~ 11.5 and adjusted the wakeplate up down and in the middle. We really couldn't get the wave very big and it didn't really seem to want to clean up on the crest.

The best I seemed to get was actually around 11mph with the wakeplate all the way down.

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I wasn't able to free ride but I rode around the lake for quite some time and was able to take slack out of the rope. I think maybe a few more people in the boat would help and I bet the regular side will be better (the rest of my crew is regular).

Any tips as to where I should be putting speed, wakeplate, etc?

Also, since the board felt like it was dragging a bit, should I remove the center fin or the two outer fins?

I'm already excited to get back out, looking like Friday. Water temp has jumped nearly 20 degrees in just a few weeks :)

Thanks!

kaneboats
05-22-2014, 08:33 AM
I like the Broadcast best with the center fin removed. It's a little slicker and lets you slash a little more.

uniwarking
05-22-2014, 09:50 AM
I like the Broadcast best with the center fin removed. It's a little slicker and lets you slash a little more.

Thanks, I'll try that... Should help reduce the drag a bit. I didn't know whether going 1 fin or 2 fins would be better. I'll start by pulling the long center fin.


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smorris7
05-22-2014, 10:18 AM
I have found with my Mojo 9.8 to 10 .3 speed provides the best wave. We don't surf goofy so I cant really help you there. On the regular side I have 1100 rear and a 370 tube sac plumbed in in front of it plus IBS. 750lbs in starboard rear half full. If its just me and my wife I'll fill 2 of the fat sac bricks. Aprox 150lbs each and stick them in the back corner. This setup provides a fantastic surf wave.

beej77r
05-22-2014, 10:40 AM
With my boat, to get the push i need, I have to use my trim up about a 1/4. This helps me be able to ride ropeless even with all the weight in the boat.

smorris7
05-22-2014, 11:08 AM
With the Mojo wake plate will depend on weight placement (people, ballast, ect) generally 1/4 to 1/2 Wave is much longer at 1/2.

mmandley
05-22-2014, 11:19 AM
Alright, I'm asking for some help here dialing in my wave. I've got a '13 Mojo, without the flow. I must start by saying that I'm a total newby to surfing and I'm riding a Hyperlite Broadcast (longest model).

My first time out a this year, just a couple weeks back, we ran with the stock ballast and didn't have much luck... especially on the goofy side. Regular side looked ok but the wave was small.

Since then, I placed an order with Wakemakers... I've added an IBS (~650#) and I've upgraded the rears to 900# Sumos.

Tonight was only my second time out, it was just my wife, son and I in the boat and we only tried the goofy side... since that's my side. I filled the center tank, IBS and surf side sumo bag completely and left the non surf side empty. We toyed with speed, running 10.5 ~ 11.5 and adjusted the wakeplate up down and in the middle. We really couldn't get the wave very big and it didn't really seem to want to clean up on the crest.

The best I seemed to get was actually around 11mph with the wakeplate all the way down.

19997
19998
19999
20000

I wasn't able to free ride but I rode around the lake for quite some time and was able to take slack out of the rope. I think maybe a few more people in the boat would help and I bet the regular side will be better (the rest of my crew is regular).

Any tips as to where I should be putting speed, wakeplate, etc?

Also, since the board felt like it was dragging a bit, should I remove the center fin or the two outer fins?

I'm already excited to get back out, looking like Friday. Water temp has jumped nearly 20 degrees in just a few weeks :)

Thanks!

I can tell you right now your going to fast, IDK what your speed control says, you should start out with your RPM at 2900 and vary it up to 3100 to start your wave. Then once in the wave you can decide if the boat needs to go faster or slower.

Boat needs to go faster if your always on your back foot, Boat needs to go slower if your front foot heavy. You will find that sweet speed when you can easily feel your just standing on the board and it allows you to free rope it. < Skill is dependent >

Watch this clip I made last year on the goofy side of the boat.
https://vimeo.com/63587764

We where running
900 Star
500 hard tank
650 Bow sac

Pretty much exactly what you should be running.

Also you will need the wake plate 50-100% up.

I can tell my your pictures the boat isn't leaning to much to the goofy, its really flat looking, the Goofy wave is the absolute most UNFORGIVING on the Mojo.

You will be able to pull a good clean wave on the regular side with no issues at all.

People placement always, and I can't stress this enough ALWAYS needs to be on the goofy side. You can actually have someone sit on the goofy and walk to the Regular and you will see the wave change.

The prop spins counteracting the goofy side, it tries to flatten the boat out.

What you will see is the more goofy weight the better. You might look into 1 a 340 or a 400 bag since 400s are readily available on the forum and plum it to the 900, or get a remote pump to fill it when you want to surf.

I have found the best wave on goofy with 1500 Star, 500 center, 50 IBS and a 450 Sump in the bow on the goofy side, but thats if you want a huge wave.

uniwarking
05-22-2014, 01:21 PM
So, it looks like I should back off a bit on speed... We were running about 11.2 in the pics I believe. I'll target 10 next time and play with the wakeplate.

I hate to lose any more storage so I'm going to hold off a bit on any more sacs. Also, I'll probably add the flow for next season so I'm sure that will help.

A little more practice and I'll get it. I may try riding switch too... Should help the wake boarding skills too.


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muehlcj
05-23-2014, 08:19 PM
So, it looks like I should back off a bit on speed... We were running about 11.2 in the pics I believe. I'll target 10 next time and play with the wakeplate.

I hate to lose any more storage so I'm going to hold off a bit on any more sacs. Also, I'll probably add the flow for next season so I'm sure that will help.

A little more practice and I'll get it. I may try riding switch too... Should help the wake boarding skills too.


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We run:
-regular: 1100 port w/400 under seat, center tank full, Ibs &250lbs of lead in bow, 400-500 starboard rear. 10.4 & wp 1/2
-goofy: 1100 starboard no 400 (only because we need some storage) center full, ibs & lead in bow. Little or no off side. 10.2ish wp at 1/2.

We don't surf much goofy so it's def not under the scrutiny that our reg wave is.

uniwarking
05-24-2014, 06:12 PM
Well, thanks for the advice guys. Had two more adults and another kid on the boat last night. We stuffed them up in the bow and ran 10 ~ 10.2 with the wake plate up. I also took the center fin out.

I was able to free ride several times... Only made not about 100 yards each time but not bad for the third run.


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mmandley
05-24-2014, 07:04 PM
Well, thanks for the advice guys. Had two more adults and another kid on the boat last night. We stuffed them up in the bow and ran 10 ~ 10.2 with the wake plate up. I also took the center fin out.

I was able to free ride several times... Only made not about 100 yards each time but not bad for the third run.


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See how much better that wave looks, nice clean dark water section to surf in.

Looking a lot better bud

uniwarking
05-30-2014, 07:55 AM
I got tired of watching everyone else surfing the solid wave on the regular side so last night I gave it a try. The first few pulls were a little sketchy since I'm not used to riding switch but I was able to ride ropeless after about 30 minutes :) It was just my wife and son (4 yr old) in the boat, front and surf side ballast full, 1/4 tank of gas and the wave was still solid.

I have to say, surfing is fun. I still love to wakeboard but I can surf for a lot longer and it's pretty painless when you wipe out which is a plus :) I don't think I'll be pulling an 360's, airs or shuvits any time soon but I hope to get there some day.

mmandley
05-30-2014, 11:31 AM
I got tired of watching everyone else surfing the solid wave on the regular side so last night I gave it a try. The first few pulls were a little sketchy since I'm not used to riding switch but I was able to ride ropeless after about 30 minutes :) It was just my wife and son (4 yr old) in the boat, front and surf side ballast full, 1/4 tank of gas and the wave was still solid.

I have to say, surfing is fun. I still love to wakeboard but I can surf for a lot longer and it's pretty painless when you wipe out which is a plus :) I don't think I'll be pulling an 360's, airs or shuvits any time soon but I hope to get there some day.

That's the allure of wake surfing. Hard core Wake Boards hate on it but its not replacing any sports.

We hit the water, and any and everyone who wants to wake board, wake skate does there sets. When there arms and bodies are sore from pulls, wipe outs, then we ballast up and Surf till the day is gone.

Surfing is great because almost anyone can do it, we have lots of over 50 and into 60 people who have come out with us and been able to do it. You should see the grin on their face when they pull up and feel like they can do what the younger ones are doing still.

It might be as simple as standing on a board and the boat is pulling them, but to them, they are doing something behind the boat and fit into that crowd.

I wish I could pull flips, high jumps from wake to wake and 360s, 180s, on a wake board, I'm just not that skilled and the falls I have had are pretty rough, wind knocked out of me, gotten pulled out of my wake board, face plants so hard my head hurts all day.

Those type of things just aren't worth it to me to lose an entire day of fun.

One last thing is, when surfing the rider can express there excitement, if they want the wave changed, a music track skipped LOL. The boat crew can interact with the rider. For me its just a more personal experience then having someone 50-75 ft back where they can't hear us, or anything. But a good wake boarder is always a pleasure to watch with amazement.

uniwarking
06-10-2014, 09:36 PM
So I've had a total of 7 sets on the surf board, the last 4 have been on the regular side. My sister took this video of me this weekend... not near hitting the 360 but I'm pretty happy with my progress... especially since I've not really done anything switch before (I'm normally goofy foot). I'm also pretty happy with the wake, this is at 9.7mph with 900 in the locker, center tank and IBS full with 5 adults and 3 kids under 5 in the boat. Wake plate 1/2 to 3/4 up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQjo4kzt0g

mmandley
06-11-2014, 04:35 PM
Thats some serious smooth riding for you in the switch position. I know my Surf life would be a lot less stressful if everyone was a regular surfer LOL.

mikenehrkorn
06-11-2014, 05:43 PM
I know my Surf life would be a lot less stressful if everyone was a regular surfer LOL.

Amen to that

uniwarking
06-11-2014, 09:12 PM
Yeah, it takes a while to fill bags... especially with little ones on board that love to swim and play at the beach. The wave is better and I was just learning anyway, so I figured I'd give switch a try... should help with my wakeboarding as well.