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Horwitz
05-02-2014, 04:56 PM
I have the 2014 Mondo with the standard bimini top. It seems to me that the bimini cannot be used while towing from the wake tower or the rope will rub on the bimini. Is this correct?

Woody929
05-02-2014, 08:25 PM
Not sure about the Mondo, but I've never had an issue with the LSV. I don't think there is ever a time when our Bimini hasn't been up. Never had an issue boarding or surfing and if there were going to be an issue, I would think it would be surfing.

mcdye
05-03-2014, 05:20 AM
I have the 2014 Mondo with the standard bimini top. It seems to me that the bimini cannot be used while towing from the wake tower or the rope will rub on the bimini. Is this correct?

That should not be the case.

I know of some instances where it is very difficult to get he straps down to the proper location. I had to slide my straps down on the tubing just to get it to snap, but with them in the different location, when we boarding it rubbed very bad. Also on mine you could not warp the Velcro around the tubing to secure the bimini, way to short. I contacted the dealer and they had noticed others doing the same thing. It was like the bimini was cut too small or the tubing to long. They are contacting SC.

I wonder how many other are having the issues with the standard bimini and the HD tower?

jstenger
05-03-2014, 08:10 AM
That should not be the case.

I know of some instances where it is very difficult to get he straps down to the proper location. I had to slide my straps down on the tubing just to get it to snap, but with them in the different location, when we boarding it rubbed very bad. Also on mine you could not warp the Velcro around the tubing to secure the bimini, way to short. I contacted the dealer and they had noticed others doing the same thing. It was like the bimini was cut too small or the tubing to long. They are contacting SC.

I wonder how many other are having the issues with the standard bimini and the HD tower?

I am having the same issue with my new LSV. Straps are at full length and still difficult to hook into place. I felt like I was going to bend or break something when I was hooking them up.

Horwitz
05-03-2014, 08:51 AM
mcdye- same thing, the velcro does not wrap well and the straps had to be slid further down the tubing on mine.

so on your boat does the wakeboarding rope go Over or Under the Bimini? I will play with it next week and get pictures.

mmandley
05-03-2014, 11:35 AM
My tower is slightly different then the Factory but I use the exact same Bimini, I had to lower the rear struts to 2 clicks from the bottom.

When I hook up the rope at rest and when picking up riders it is dragging on the top.

Once I pull them up on the board the boat is tilted upward and no more drag.

Not sure I follow on the straps? I don't have straps on mine.

jstenger
05-03-2014, 11:37 AM
My tower is slightly different then the Factory but I use the exact same Bimini, I had to lower the rear struts to 2 clicks from the bottom.

When I hook up the rope at rest and when picking up riders it is dragging on the top.

Once I pull them up on the board the boat is tilted upward and no more drag.

Not sure I follow on the straps? I don't have straps on mine.

They started using rear straps instead of rear struts on the 2014 OZ HD towers.

mmandley
05-03-2014, 11:40 AM
They started using rear straps instead of rear struts on the 2014 OZ HD towers.

Ohh Well then X out my ability to help on this LOL

mcdye
05-03-2014, 01:43 PM
Mike,
You dont count, you probably have the only one off tower on a Mojo from the factory. :)

Horwitz,
Yes the rope goes over the bimini. Dont recall seeing any brand boat with the tow rope going under the bimini.

I have supplied pictures to my dealer.

Horwitz
05-05-2014, 01:58 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8ig66zdlw0zld8/bimini.jpghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/c8ig66zdlw0zld8/bimini.jpg
looking at my boat, I dont see how the rope could possibly go over my bimini.
Maybe the problem is they are mis-drilling the location for the rear bimini support and it should be an inch or two higher on the tower. then the rear of the bimini would be lower i think. thoughts?

Horwitz
05-05-2014, 03:54 PM
Moomba said this: I certainly understand your situation and ran across the same problem the first time I set up a bimini top on a Mondo. Our bimini tops are made to be extremely tight so they don’t flap and make noise while underway. To pull the canvas into place when brand new is difficult. When pulled sufficiently to clear the tow rope the canvas will be tight as a drum but out of the way of the rope.

We recommend adjusting the two canvas straps half to ¾ up to the upper bimini support bar. While one person pulls the rear bow down, a second person can clip the strap into the loop on the tower. The person pulling may feel as if something will break, but it won’t. Do this for both sides and the “whale tail” should be flat. Sometimes the straps need additional adjusting as strap length can vary from our vendor.

marman
05-05-2014, 07:55 PM
I have used my bimini the last couple of weekends. I put the velcro on the bars first before I attach the clips. They pop and crack but it seems to work. When picking up a rider it does rub a little while they are getting into place. Once the rider starts it seems to clear fine. When I rode I paid close attention (the best I could anyway) to make sure it was clearing the top. It looked fine to me.

Horwitz
05-05-2014, 10:31 PM
Yes I tried it tonight, pulled tight as Moomba said, and it did work. I worry though, as Mark said, that over time the rope will abrade the Bimini as it does rub and catch until the rider is up. We'll have to see...

tnbrooks01
05-07-2014, 02:59 PM
Anyone know why they went to the straps instead of the struts? I prefer the struts on my 2013.

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jstenger
05-07-2014, 03:02 PM
I was told by my salesman that people were complaining about the struts when folding the top. I think it also gives you the choice of tightening the top as it stretches over time.

llancea
05-07-2014, 07:27 PM
We tried ours last night and stretched like they said...The seems then ripped so be careful when pulling it tight.

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mmandley
05-07-2014, 08:03 PM
We tried ours last night and stretched like they said...The seems then ripped so be careful when pulling it tight.

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Take it back make em fix it

llancea
05-07-2014, 09:14 PM
Yes my wife sent them an email before we got of the water...Our dealer is supposed to be taking care of it

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Calgary Mondo
07-14-2014, 04:05 PM
I just picked up my new Mondo last week and hit the lake. My Bimini looks just like yours...big 80's Porsche Whale Tale! Rope rubs on top and underneath the Bimini. Called Mooba and they stated this issue is new to them (ha, ha, ha...as I see many comments on the same issue). My local Mooba retailer whom I bought it from also commented that I am their third client who has communicated this issue.

A little frustrated as I do not want the rope to wear down the Bimini, so every time I wakeboard I have to take off the cover - ridiculous. Moomba also communicated that I use the ski pole to get up for surfing :(

Has Mooba communicated any fixes or replacement for this design?

marman
07-14-2014, 04:29 PM
I have logged 62 hours on mine so far and I still don't see any rub problems. I open the bimini 95% of the time when we are out but I do have it stretched tight. Just be careful when stretching as some have had some tears.

I don't use the tower while surfing, only wakeboarding. I don't think my surf rope would be long enough anyway.

Might want to check out the Mondo wave thread to see how everyone has been running the speed/ballast for surf.

Congrats and enjoy your new Mondo!

Mrd8ker
07-14-2014, 08:07 PM
I am at 21.5 hours on my Mondo and have run most of the hours with the bimini up. I don't have the rubbing problem. It is close however and I did have to adjust the straps really tight. Didn't tear anything in the process (thank god).

WhiskeyRunner
07-14-2014, 10:19 PM
I'm having the same problem with my Mondo '14. If you put the rope over the bimini, it seems to pull down on the top, if you have it under, it clearly rubs the stitching as you cross the wake. I chose the latter as it seemed to be less damaging, albeit unnecessary. I also had trouble connecting it the first time with the straps, but after some steady pulling we got it the stretch out and be a non-issue. I've posted a pick of my top open looking towards the stern, and you can see it curves upward and the rope would put serious stress on it the frame of the bimini top.

any suggestions?

patrick232
07-15-2014, 09:18 AM
We have about 35 hours on our Mondo with the bimini up most of those hours. Once the slack it out of the rope for wake boarding, skiing, kneeboarding it clears the bimini. I have adjusted the straps a few times since new. Next time we are out I will try and get a picture with the rope.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RozXKLHSrLE/U6m2xSeCLGI/AAAAAAAABPs/DR8rpHauUII/w1123-h632-no/10403518_10203710651343965_6601641504922768671_n.j pg

We do get the rope snagged on the upper racks sometimes.

WhiskeyRunner
07-15-2014, 10:27 AM
20395

forgot to add the pic

patrick232
07-15-2014, 11:53 AM
20395

forgot to add the pic

Your bimini looks too loose. When I pull the strap down I have to pull the bimini down slightly with one hand. The fabric should to tight.

mcdye
07-15-2014, 02:18 PM
I am on my second one. I have not used the velerco straps yet to let it stretch out good first. I have ruined one WB rope so far due to it rubbing and catching on the seam in the center. For surfing we go under the bimini. I got a feeling I am going to come up with my on fix to get rid of the duck bill. Hate to say SC missed it on the bimini for '14.

Horwitz
05-07-2015, 12:46 PM
Having started this thread last year, here is my experience with 150 hours on my 2014 Mondo.
at the start of this season, the left front strut connection failed at the rivets, fortunately on the LAST day of my warrenty. the replaced that no questions asked. so I am afraid now to over tighten my straps in the back. just yesterday i noticed that the back edge of my bimini has rubbed trough for several inches along the aluminum rail from the rope. I think this is a bad design and they are not really owning up to it.

My plan is to put black fabric patch on right away and devise a plastic bumper to clip on over the edge perhaps. I thought about putting some plastic tubing on my ropes where they would rub but I think that will still degrade the material.

Horwitz
05-07-2015, 06:49 PM
Ok. Moomba responded. They are going to "modify" my bimini. I am supposed to take the bimini back to the dealer. They responded in less than one day.

Horwitz
05-07-2015, 06:51 PM
I appreciate and respect the quick response

mcdye
05-07-2015, 09:31 PM
Ok. Moomba responded. They are going to "modify" my bimini. I am supposed to take the bimini back to the dealer. They responded in
less than one day.

Please make note of the "modification", I am sure others would benefit from it (me included).... I have thought about cutting about a 1/2" off the front tubes.

Horwitz
05-07-2015, 09:38 PM
I will take measurements before taking it in.

rdlangston13
05-08-2015, 01:12 PM
Not sure if the Mondo is the same as the Mojo but on my buddies 2015 Mojo we just run the rope under the bimini through the hole in the center for the tower pylon...

Horwitz
05-08-2015, 04:21 PM
That May work for surfing, probably not for wakeboarding

rdlangston13
05-08-2015, 04:53 PM
That May work for surfing, probably not for wakeboarding

we did it wakeboarding

marman
05-08-2015, 06:41 PM
I have around 115 hours on my Mondo and run with the bimini up 99.9% of the time. I run it tight on the straps and haven't really experienced any rubbing problems. However, I have never used the tower for surfing since I knew it would rub which was a bummer. At Southern Surfest this weekend one of the guys suggested I do what David stated above by running the surf rope under the bimini. I normally surf off the pylon and haven't had trouble getting up. But we were out earlier this year and my daughter, who can wakeboard, decided to try to surf. She was having a hard time getting up. So doing the trick under the bimini I hope it helps in trying to get her up on the surf board the next time we're out.

Horwitz
05-08-2015, 08:52 PM
Well summer is for experimenting. I'll try under For surfing. And wakeboarding, if you say it Works I will try it too.

BrettLee3232
05-08-2015, 09:27 PM
I posted a thread about this...first trip out I got this.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/3ec5b88a80fa5901f111ff0dbd820765.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/08/2d3e3870a2b0cafff7062b2a385dd94a.jpg still haven't heard back from Moomba on a solution.


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Horwitz
05-09-2015, 09:34 AM
we did it wakeboarding
So the Rope moved freely without the wake tower interfering?

Horwitz
05-14-2015, 05:48 PM
Putting the rope through underneath the bimini absolutely does not work for wakeboarding or knee boarding. In the meantime I dropped off my Bimini at the dealer for them to look at it, Per corporate recommendation.

Horwitz
08-05-2015, 08:48 PM
Moomba replaced my bimini fabric and I think shortened the rear arms so it is lower now. But there is still potential rubbing whether you go over or under for surfing. I may try attaching lower on the tower

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Horwitz
08-05-2015, 08:49 PM
It took all summer, but I got satisfaction....

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mcdye
08-06-2015, 07:54 AM
Good to hear.

I ended up cutting about 1/2" off the front tubes, as much as I could without binding the bimini on the tower light. It helped but not ideal. I am still thinking what I can do to prevent the idle rub on the bimini from wearing thru. Once tension is on the line it is better. The last resort imo is to move the rear pole mounts up higher on the tower.