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Cigars n scotch
03-16-2014, 04:40 PM
I pulled my pump when I winterized the boat and I'd like to get a new one. The current one is a Rule Hi-Flow livewell pump which was the stock pump that came with my boat when I bought it. I was wondering what folks were running and suggest I look into and where I can look on the internet for a new pump?

Thanks!

MLA
03-16-2014, 04:51 PM
If your ballast system is the single ballast pump with the 3 electric sprinkler valves, then most gut the system to do away with those sprinkler valves and them give each sac its own dedicated fill pump and plumbing. This can be done with aerator or reversible impeller, which would also eliminate the drain pumps.

Cigars n scotch
03-17-2014, 11:40 AM
If your ballast system is the single ballast pump with the 3 electric sprinkler valves, then most gut the system to do away with those sprinkler valves and them give each sac its own dedicated fill pump and plumbing. This can be done with aerator or reversible impeller, which would also eliminate the drain pumps.

Ugh, not what I wanted to hear MLA, that's a lot of involved work that I just don't have the time for right now (nor do I even want to mess with that).

jmvotto
03-17-2014, 01:47 PM
CNS is the the pump dead? I think your pump is 1100 gph

they don't make that one anymore, you could replace it with this tournament rule pump but pretty spendy at 160.00
http://www.cgedwards.com/Rule/rule03.html

the cheaper option would be the tsunami 1200

jpetty3023
03-17-2014, 03:04 PM
I screwed up my pump last year trying to do a DIY repair. called wakemakers and had a new one sent. easy to replace, plug and play basically


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MLA
03-17-2014, 09:30 PM
Ugh, not what I wanted to hear MLA, that's a lot of involved work that I just don't have the time for right now (nor do I even want to mess with that).

yes it is, not arguing that. If you are just needing a suitable replacement for a dead pump, the Rule 209B jmvotto linked to can work. Or the Johnson 1600B. If you want more flow, then the Rule 17A is 3800 GPH

Cigars n scotch
03-17-2014, 10:16 PM
The pump is not dead. It's 6 yrs. old, just thought I'd replace it. Thought I'd also like more flow out of it. Perhaps I am jumping the gun here and I don't need to do this at this time. Though I will look at those other pumps for reference. Thanks guys.

MLA
03-17-2014, 10:22 PM
if the pump still functions, id run it until the time is right to reconfigure the entire fill system.

jmvotto
03-18-2014, 08:59 AM
if the pump still functions, id run it until the time is right to reconfigure the entire fill system.

agreed, you wont get anymore flow through the sprinkler system the way it is configured. stick with the original pump.

chadjitsu1
03-18-2014, 09:51 AM
I have heard that if you replace that pump with a reversible pump you will get better flow. You might want to talk to wakemakers on that though. I hear that even though you have less GPM on the Johnson / Jabsco the head pressure is much better and will push through the sprinkler heads better. Even though the existing pump is high flow there is no pressure and the flow is minimal once it gets to the bags. Just what I have heard.

If you replace it with a Johnson your part way there if you decide to go with the elaborate system many of us have decided to invest in.

MLA
03-18-2014, 11:49 AM
I have heard that if you replace that pump with a reversible pump you will get better flow. You might want to talk to wakemakers on that though. I hear that even though you have less GPM on the Johnson / Jabsco the head pressure is much better and will push through the sprinkler heads better. Even though the existing pump is high flow there is no pressure and the flow is minimal once it gets to the bags. Just what I have heard.

If you replace it with a Johnson your part way there if you decide to go with the elaborate system many of us have decided to invest in.

I have tested the impeller pump/sprinkler valve setup. Going to the test, I knew 2 things. 1) that the positive displacement impeller pump would flow a higher rate through the sprinkler valve in the same direction as its utilized in the SC boat. 2) the sprinkler valve is not designed to be bidirectional.

Both # 1 and #2 were confirmed with out a doubt. Yes, the impeller pump flowed more through the sprinkler valve then an aerator pump, but its still suffered some reduction, about 30%. The pump struggled to suck water back through the pump in the drain mode. You could hear it work hard to draw water and the flow was painstakingly slow.

Conclusion, but not a shocker, ditch the sprinkler valves.