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freshturk
08-06-2013, 04:02 PM
Alright, so after seeing wet sounds facebook today I've decided that i need to build one of these. Being that i have 4 stock kicker components lying around, i myswell put them to good use.

I have a sneaking suspicion that most of you probably like to tailgate like myself and I'm always looking to enhance the experience so with my old love for beer, new love for high quality loud as shit marine audio, I've decided to combine the two.

Now I have very limited knowledge of audio and electrical components, but luckily have a brother in law that can hold his own on the electrical side of things to help me along the way. I'm posting this here to get everyones thought as far as pieces to the puzzle.

Looking to do this on a budget being that it won't get used all that often.

Thoughts on a small battery that will power 4 6.5" speakers and a 300ish watt amp for 6hours

Thoughts on a way to charge the battery while stored away

Thoughts on whether to add a headunit or just do rca's out of the amp split them eventually into a single headphone jack

Thoughts on creative ways to divide the cooler so it can still hold ice/beer without electrocuting my frequent entering hand.

I have an old cooler in the basement so my initial plan is probably just to experiment with it and then make the masterpiece.

Also i don't have the metal clips that i see a lot of people using to secure the marine speakers to the cooler in some of the tutorials. Any ideas as to where to find these

Link to images
https://www.google.com/search?q=ice+chest+stereo&client=firefox-a&hs=Woo&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9FMBUp_BKu-WyAHe7oGABg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=671

KG's Supra24
08-06-2013, 04:05 PM
dusty .....

KG's Supra24
08-06-2013, 04:09 PM
Found it .......

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?16155-Missed-out-on-the-lake-this-weekend-so-I-got-a-little-creative-at-home

Looking at the google pics just shows me one thing ... Dusty nailed it.

viking
08-06-2013, 04:14 PM
That's fricken cool. How did I miss that 2 years ago? Damn I must have actually been using the boat then :)

freshturk
08-06-2013, 05:27 PM
Dusty i may be PM'ing you soon. As far as dividing the cooler, it seems relatively straightforward but i worry about condensation developing on the division and causing problems on the audio side

MLA
08-06-2013, 07:23 PM
We are in the process of building one.
Kicker KM6200 2 ohm w/LED rings
Shuriken 30 Ah AGM power cell with C-Tek charger
Wet Sounds Syn Micro amp 120W rms x 2 @ 2 ohm
The New Wet Sounds BT for interface and volume control.
May use a Kicker ZXM-RLC as line driver if we fell the source is needs it.
A couple of orange LED strips down in the bottom just for effect.

The battery and amp rack will only take up about a fourth of the cooler and be in an acrylic enclosure and on risers so ice can actually spill over under them.

N2OGTO
08-06-2013, 08:02 PM
Mine is exiled, played for almost 10 hours before needing a charge!

dusty2221
08-06-2013, 08:16 PM
Ive had extremely good luck with mine. I used all budget equipment and can get about the same 8-10 hours of playtime on the lawnmower battery.

I would love to build another with Exile amps ans speakers but no way can I convince Ash that I need to spend a few hundred on it.

Ive got a few ideas for a better version two if the equipment winds up piled up in my garage. Would def sell the first version.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

N2OGTO
08-06-2013, 10:27 PM
Mine is just a cheap little amp that my buddy had laying around, he wasn't sure if it even worked but was like here try this. Turns out it worked really well for how I used it.

philwsailz
08-07-2013, 02:28 PM
Kicker has its little PX100.2 amplifier; delivers 50x2 at 2-ohms. It pulls only 3-5 amps average with normal music playing. We also have a 200 watt sub amp that will play music rocking along at only 8-10 amps average draw. It delivers rated power into 1/2-ohm; perfect for the new dual-1-ohm subwoofers we have out.

Something to consider; they are very frugal on power....

Phil
Kicker

EarmarkMarine
08-07-2013, 06:18 PM
I noticed that Phil's ice chest stereo also had a mast and sail.

kaneboats
08-07-2013, 11:54 PM
LOL! I've seen pictures of some of his "coolers" with masts. Very nice.

philwsailz
08-07-2013, 11:56 PM
I noticed that Phil's ice chest stereo also had a mast and sail.

Hah! Actually on the current boat I am using a non-aftermarket amp we sell in the OEM world. 4.1, aka 5-channel with full DSP flashing via serial port and computer with proper program.
It actually pulls a max of 30A, and only does 100W on the sub channel.

Still, as a sailor I am inherently aware of current draw. I can't fire up a V8 with a 110A alternator... So, with vehicles like sailboats, AND vehicles that only charge via magneto, we came to the market with our powersports line. We are talking efficiencies at speaker outputs bettering 92% when loaded properly. These things really do no need a heat sink; there is no heat

kaneboats
08-08-2013, 12:35 AM
Phil, not sure if you saw my thread from back in June and my visit to Coronado. I got the sailing bug real bad. I'll have to drop in on you some time. Not to be an anti- sound system guy but I loved the quiet out there. Time and place for everything!

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?22501-The-Other-Kind-of-Boating&highlight=boating

beat taco
08-08-2013, 02:57 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/08/egu8eta7.jpg

Hmm, maybe time to mod my scoot coolers.

beat taco
08-08-2013, 03:02 AM
I may have some fitment issues.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/08/gepasu7u.jpg

freshturk
08-08-2013, 07:00 PM
Question....if i have a 400.4 thats 50wattsx4 at 4ohm. Is it possible to only use 2 channels and wire it at 2ohm in order to get 200x2? 4 speakers might be overkill but this first attempt is going to be just experimental.

MLA-how do you plan on having an access point in the acrylic that still maintains its ability to withstand water/ice? How thick of acryllic are you using?

MLA
08-08-2013, 08:13 PM
Fresh,

No. To get that 200x2, you will need to use all 4 chnls and run the amp in chnl mode. A typical 4 chnl amp can be run in 2 chnl mode by bridging chnls 1 and 2 with a speaker and 3 and 4 with a speaker. Most amps are only stable down to a 4 ohm load bridged. So with a 4 ohm speaker bridged, its 2 chnl output will be 2 ohm per chnl output x 2.

In 4 chnl mode (not bridging), the only way to get the 2 ohm output is to either use a single 2 ohm speaker per chnl or a pair of 4 ohm speakers wired in parallel. Just keep in mind, any time 2 speaker are wired together on a chnl, they divide the output.

With 4 speakers and a 4 chnl amp, there is no advantage to wiring any other way other then one speaker per chnl.

The acrylic is .5". The battery and amp will be housed in an acrylic box that will be raised off the floor of the cooler. The top of the box will right at the level of the lid and only be as deep as it takes to fit the battery then amp. This leaves room room for ice and beer. The battery is about the size of a garden tractor battery. The entire goal of this project is to keep this as a usable cooler.

powerstroke99
08-14-2013, 03:07 PM
If anyones looking for speakers for this job.. i got some stock kenwoods i'd be willing to give away for a cheap price..

freshturk
08-19-2013, 09:50 PM
go browns
http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag121/freshturk/brownscooler_zps0ced8760.jpg (http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/freshturk/media/brownscooler_zps0ced8760.jpg.html)

wolfeman131
08-19-2013, 10:09 PM
You need a much bigger cooler if you're a Browns fan!

viking
08-19-2013, 10:12 PM
go browns
http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag121/freshturk/brownscooler_zps0ced8760.jpg (http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/freshturk/media/brownscooler_zps0ced8760.jpg.html)

Nice job. Let's see the inside of that bad boy!

MLA
08-24-2013, 06:42 PM
Finally got started on the actual build. Got the 4 sided and the bottom cut for the enclosure. Gluing it together is going to be slow....one side at a time, but we did get the speaker holes cut and test fit. Once the speakers are bolted in, we will put a bead of silicone between the magnet and the inside wall of the cooler.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/IMG_20130824_134137_509_zps746ffe97.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/IMG_20130824_134137_509_zps746ffe97.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/IMG_20130824_143143_407_zps21bed3ef.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/IMG_20130824_143143_407_zps21bed3ef.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/IMG_20130824_143206_762_zps5d57aaeb.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/IMG_20130824_143206_762_zps5d57aaeb.jpg.html)

MLA
09-19-2013, 04:30 PM
Not a lot of progress lately, but the acrylic enclosure is mostly complete. Speakers and orange LED rings are bolted in a sealed.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/P9190232_zps21bc9c69.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/P9190232_zps21bc9c69.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/P9190231_zps2586ae3b.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/P9190231_zps2586ae3b.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/P9190233_zps3e936b9a.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/P9190233_zps3e936b9a.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/P9190234_zpsb2702a1f.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/P9190234_zpsb2702a1f.jpg.html)

MLA
11-03-2013, 05:23 PM
Finally finished the cooler this weekend

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/PA020247_zpscda58eb8.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/PA020247_zpscda58eb8.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/PB020004_zps1e3d9e9b.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/PB020004_zps1e3d9e9b.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/PB020005_zps4b9cc970.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/PB020005_zps4b9cc970.jpg.html)
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/PB020006_zps9666b1a4.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/PB020006_zps9666b1a4.jpg.html)

Hopefully someone can draw some ideas from it.

New Guy
11-04-2013, 12:39 PM
Are you just running a bluetooth puck in there? How are you controlling volume?

KG's Supra24
11-04-2013, 12:44 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/PA020247_zpscda58eb8.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/PA020247_zpscda58eb8.jpg.html)




That looks like a source input and a volume control knob there ....

MLA
11-04-2013, 12:48 PM
Are you just running a bluetooth puck in there? How are you controlling volume?

The Wet Sounds Bluetooth will be used as the primary source input and we have a 3.5mm AUX jack as backup. Although the Wet Sounds BT can control volume, its probably just easier and quicker to grab the phone/MP3 and use it for the master volume

New Guy
11-04-2013, 12:53 PM
Awesome. This is on my winter projects list.

viking
11-04-2013, 02:14 PM
nice work!

David Analog
11-04-2013, 04:57 PM
Speaking of Coleman....
Old Jim was tinkering with his coleman lantern one night and it exploded. He was knocked high up into the air. He noticed another plaid coated camper coming down out of the sky as he was going up. As they approached and passed one another, "Hey do you know anything about Coleman Lanterns?" asked Jim.
"No but do you know anything about Coleman Stoves?" replied the camper.

jmvotto
11-06-2013, 09:16 PM
Nice work, but cuts that case into a 12 er real quick .

viking
11-06-2013, 11:13 PM
^^ more for "show" and less for "stow" ^^

MLA
11-07-2013, 05:02 PM
Nice work, but cuts that case into a 12 er real quick .

My son and his buds will take care of those 12 homeless brews before they have time to get warm so no worries :cool:

MLA
11-07-2013, 05:04 PM
^^ more for "show" and less for "stow" ^^

But still 100% usable as a cooler ;-)

philwsailz
11-08-2013, 04:24 PM
Speaking of Coleman....
Old Jim was tinkering with his coleman lantern one night and it exploded. He was knocked high up into the air. He noticed another plaid coated camper coming down out of the sky as he was going up. As they approached and passed one another, "Hey do you know anything about Coleman Lanterns?" asked Jim.
"No but do you know anything about Coleman Stoves?" replied the camper.

I have been there, both issues

David Analog
11-09-2013, 12:53 PM
I have been there, both issues

Orange you glad you survived that?

navajake
01-29-2014, 02:46 PM
I have one with 2 6x9s powered off a cheap marine radio and it sounds great for what it is. It gets PLENTY loud and has a good amount of bass as well.

I used it floating down the river and people as far as you could see were jamming out to it. We were getting requests, it was pretty cool.