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bergermaister
02-22-2013, 04:31 PM
Saw this in a Transworld Wakeboarding email today. As if the digger wasn't bad enough, then you have the idiot riding the ski... Well, you get the idea.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d-RRcOXsBb4

KG's Supra24
02-22-2013, 04:45 PM
That's just poor decision making. They were filming from the jet ski .... luckily they were doing it from the jetski and not a boat.

wolfeman131
02-22-2013, 04:45 PM
glad the wakeboarder wasn't hurt. wonder what it was like to turn into a human speed bump?

motosno963
02-22-2013, 04:48 PM
he was lucky that kid was still under the water when the ski hit his board..could have knocked him out.or even worse killed him

bergermaister
02-22-2013, 05:14 PM
Like taken his head clean off! Lucky - very lucky.

E4NASH
02-22-2013, 05:16 PM
I'm pretty sure it's EVERYONE involved's fault. They obviously new the boarder. They all probably thought it would be a "great" idea to get some "dope" footage. It's not the Jet Ski's fault it's being driven by idiots.

Jet Ski's get a bad rep because of the morons that ride them...kinda like guns. They get a bad rep because some idiots want to use them to do harm. The gun didn't shoot the person, the person holding it did. So the same in this case the Jet Ski didn't hit the person the dumb a$$ driving it did.

If it was a boat instead of the jet ski the outcome would've been much worse. Regardless of the vehicle it's a dumba$$ move.

Drives me nuts when people say all this stuff about how bad Jet Skis are...it's the rider. There are a lot of idiots driving boats too...boats just can't do/go what/where Jetskis can and jet skis are much cheaper so they are available to more idiots.


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bergermaister
02-22-2013, 05:24 PM
Agreed. Was thinking-- jet ski = jet skier = rider/driver.

viking
02-22-2013, 05:32 PM
wow..that could have easily be avoided had the drive of the ski just crank left immediately. Wide open out there. Shows inexperience at the helm. Should have started out wide from the beginning anyway!!

wolfeman131
02-22-2013, 05:36 PM
glad it wasn't a helicopter following the wakeboarder. that would have been messy.

kaneboats
02-22-2013, 05:40 PM
It's hard to hold the camera and drive the jet ski at the same time. I know when I've tried it I've almost spilled my beer a coupla times.

KG's Supra24
02-22-2013, 06:09 PM
Chase boat photos are fun but like viking said they seemed a little inexperienced based on where they were positioned.

Anyways ... you gave me a good excuse to post some chase photos. Check out my BFF Dusty :o

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0231.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0230-2.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/forum5.jpg

parrothd
02-22-2013, 06:27 PM
Happens all the time on race tracks, takes a lot of mental effort to not run over someone. :eek:

Especially on a bike or jet ski, you see the guy ahead of you crash you look at the guy crashing if you keep looking at them you run them over or run into whatever your looking at, walls, barricades, sand pits..

Takes a lot of practice, but you have to train yourself not to look at the crash and look where you want to go, the bike follows where you look.. It's actually pretty hard to do, your instinct is to stare at it..



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motosno963
02-22-2013, 06:28 PM
damn i wish my wake is that big..hopefully this year it will be haha

viking
02-22-2013, 06:31 PM
Happens all the time on race tracks, takes a lot of mental effort to not run over someone. :eek:

Especially on a bike or jet ski, you see the guy ahead of you crash you look at the guy crashing if you keep looking at them you run them over or run into whatever your looking at, walls, barricades, sand pits..

Takes a lot of practice, but you have to train yourself not to look at the crash and look where you want to go, the bike follows where you look.. It's actually pretty hard to do, your instinct is to stare at it..



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Especially with a video camera up to your eyeball. Who the hell wants to look at the open area when there is entertainment happening and not document the crash "you are about to be in" :) ha ha

BensonWdby
02-24-2013, 11:26 AM
Although it is true you can't lump all jet skiers together, stereotypes typically have some basis in reality. Not sure I would lump jetskis and guns in the same grouping. I would be willing to bet that if you compared the ratio of stupid things gun owners do vs. gun owners, to stupid things jetski riders do vs. jet skis , you would probably see they are not in the same category. I think the difference is that guns seem to demand a certain amount of respect, even from morons. Jet skis - not so much - I think due to the seemingly harmless nature of the PWC and the likelihood of owners to let untrained underage kids to operate them unconctrolled around groups of people. I have friends that own PWC and I don't consider them morons or a$$holes. However, they do exhibit personality traits that I would associate with other PWC owners. Reckless is high among those traits.

E4NASH
02-24-2013, 12:43 PM
I've had a jet ski of some kind pretty much all of my life since I was 11 years old. If you re-read my post I'm not saying every person that rides a Jet Ski is a moron or a dumba$$. I'm saying its those that do dumb stuff like this that get all the stereotypes associated with Jet Skis...they are the dumba$$es and morons.

I'm not reckless....I'm actually pretty responsible, conservative and not much of a risk taker so your generalization of all people who own/ride jet skis having the same personality traits is a stereotype in itself.

Since I started riding a ski at such a young age and have been around the water my whole life maybe it's because I was taught a respect for these machines and any other type of water activity because any water activity can have grave consequences if you are not careful.

Yeah you can compare skis and guns. You have those that own/use them in a responsible manner because they respect them and have been taught or just have obvious common sense. And you have those who don't respect them and/or don't know the consequences of what can happen when using them and/or don't care.

There are tons of accidental shootings that happen by both those who are familiar with gun and those that are not. Same with Jet skis there are tons of accidents with Jet skis with those who are familiar and those that are not. I'm willing to bet though there are more accidents with guns and skis with people who are not familiar or who haven't taken a class than those that have been around them all their life and/or have taken a class.

Some people are just born dumba$$es whether its with a gun, a car, a jet ski, or whatever. You can't fix stupid...


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Boatdrinks797
02-28-2013, 04:07 PM
As much as I dislike jet skis chopping up good water and chasing around your towboat I would place tubers in my #1 slot for most annoying on the water. Our lake is loaded with them and it seems they are all as oblivious to other boats as the next one. The one thing I do appreciate about MN lakes is that jet ski's are not allowed on the water before 9:30 am and have to be off one hour before sunset which still give us the 'good' water.

Nothing makes me happier than seeing a game warden ticketing jet ski's for operating outside of those hours!

motosno963
02-28-2013, 09:09 PM
i tube if its nice and choppy out on the lake and if we have the area to ourselfs.. other then that all we do is wakeboat..i had one of theose mini seadoo boats with a boarder behind them basically following me and my buddy boarding...i almost wanted to just stop my boat, pick up my buddy and cuss out that dude with the seadoo boat

Ian Brantford
02-28-2013, 11:13 PM
I actually did stop, brought in a rider who was being closely followed by two PWC's jumping our wake, followed them to where they later stopped, and told them exactly what dangerous things they were doing. I also said not to let me see them doing that again. During my approach and spiel, I had two crewmembers obviously taking video and still shots of them.

One of them said "no problem" and indeed I didn't see them misbehaving again that weekend. I think that they were renters from the resort a little down the shoreline. While I did worry a bit about retribution to my boat overnight, I think that their knowledge that we had good pictures of them (complete with registration numbers) was a good disincentive to misbehaviour.

I am keeping those pictures indefinitely, in case we see the same guys at any time in the future.

Of course, I have seen lots of other PWC's on the water over the years, not being bothersome in the least. Which ones stick in my mind now? The ones that created a problem. My guess is that the "creating a problem" wakeboat drivers are also the most notable ones for other folks on the water in some areas, whether it's because of loud tower speakers or a big wake. The thing about PWC's jumping a wake close to a boat, especially towing a rider, is that it's such obvious and wanton danger. They can claim to be stupid, but not to be ignorant of the danger.

chadjitsu1
03-02-2013, 11:48 AM
Wow this thread is very good. Nothing blows a good day on the lake like a couple jet ski's and a few tubers. On Lake Lanier here in GA there is a specific cove that has a slalom course set up in the middle. All the people that ski on the lake know this area as "Ski Cove". The flat water guys get out there early in the morning and late evening when the water is like glass. Then the wakeboarders hit it for the afternoons. There is a unspoken or sometimes spoken courtesy that the regulars have for one another. Each person takes a few sets and moves to the side of the lake so that another boat can take advantage of the calm lake. When wakeboarding there isn't enough room for more than 2 boats in the cove at the same time usually, plus with 2 wakeboats in there it gets pretty rough.

Sure enough everyone will be taking turns in the cove and eventually a jet ski or a tuber will show up doing figure eights in the middle of the cove. Everyone usually just sits there and stares at them until they get the hint but most people never get the hint and just keep flying all over the place.

I obviously dont own the lake and know that I need to share the water with others but it is ridiculous that these guys get in the only calm spot on the lake and start throwing out their tubes. Many times someone will say something to these guys but me being a non-confrontational type of person just sit there and get severely PO'd and wait for them to finish.

I am thinking about making a sign this year and posting it at the mouth of the cove that says, "10,000.00 fine for tubing in this cove, Skiers and wakeboarders only". Do you think that might detour the idiots?

chadjitsu1
03-02-2013, 11:53 AM
Chase boat photos are fun but like viking said they seemed a little inexperienced based on where they were positioned.

Anyways ... you gave me a good excuse to post some chase photos. Check out my BFF Dusty :o

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0231.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0230-2.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/forum5.jpg



OK, so what boat is this. If this is a Moomba please share the setup.

kaneboats
03-02-2013, 12:25 PM
Supra, I think.

beat taco
03-02-2013, 12:42 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/03/5ebehe4e.jpg

We run chase boats mainly to scare the hell out of the kids. Teaches them not to fall out, or if they do it only happens once. You can see their little white knuckles from the boat and the look of fear in their faces. Tube rides of terror!

E4NASH
03-02-2013, 12:44 PM
Wow this thread is very good. Nothing blows a good day on the lake like a couple jet ski's and a few tubers. On Lake Lanier here in GA there is a specific cove that has a slalom course set up in the middle. All the people that ski on the lake know this area as "Ski Cove". The flat water guys get out there early in the morning and late evening when the water is like glass. Then the wakeboarders hit it for the afternoons. There is a unspoken or sometimes spoken courtesy that the regulars have for one another. Each person takes a few sets and moves to the side of the lake so that another boat can take advantage of the calm lake. When wakeboarding there isn't enough room for more than 2 boats in the cove at the same time usually, plus with 2 wakeboats in there it gets pretty rough.

Sure enough everyone will be taking turns in the cove and eventually a jet ski or a tuber will show up doing figure eights in the middle of the cove. Everyone usually just sits there and stares at them until they get the hint but most people never get the hint and just keep flying all over the place.

I obviously dont own the lake and know that I need to share the water with others but it is ridiculous that these guys get in the only calm spot on the lake and start throwing out their tubes. Many times someone will say something to these guys but me being a non-confrontational type of person just sit there and get severely PO'd and wait for them to finish.

I am thinking about making a sign this year and posting it at the mouth of the cove that says, "10,000.00 fine for tubing in this cove, Skiers and wakeboarders only". Do you think that might detour the idiots?

Chad, where is this cove?


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chadjitsu1
03-02-2013, 07:19 PM
Hard right out of Bald Ridge marina till it ends. This summer I will take you over there if we meet up. No unwanted wake at all till the jet ski's and tubers show up. Its really sweet.

E4NASH
03-02-2013, 10:41 PM
Hard right out of Bald Ridge marina till it ends. This summer I will take you over there if we meet up. No unwanted wake at all till the jet ski's and tubers show up. Its really sweet.

Sweet! Sounds like a plan


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chadjitsu1
03-03-2013, 10:04 AM
Its cool because everyone takes turns usually only 1 boat at a time running the cove, last year someone had the course set up all year. That is really the only place that I go when I'm on the lake. You cant board in the big water unless your just looking for a leg work out. another great place to ski is young dear way back in. If you go all the way back in there its pretty calm but your tuber chances are much higher.

E4NASH
03-03-2013, 12:11 PM
Its cool because everyone takes turns usually only 1 boat at a time running the cove, last year someone had the course set up all year. That is really the only place that I go when I'm on the lake. You cant board in the big water unless your just looking for a leg work out. another great place to ski is young dear way back in. If you go all the way back in there its pretty calm but your tuber chances are much higher.

Yeah we hang out in Young Deer and 4 mile most of the time. Usually have pretty good water there. 4 mile can get tight if there are several boats in there. It would be a lot like what you describe if people would take turns. But when we are tied up floating that's where we are.


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