Winter Project is complete, pics inside!!!! [Archive]

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 11:45 AM

Kg and my joint project has finally drawn to a conclusion. Give us some feedback guys, likes, dislikes, what do you think? In the pics, His boat has the 3 JL amps, and mine has the 2 JL and the Kenwood on the bottom.

Custom Amp Rack, all wires routed and attached cleanly to the back. Behind the rack are 2 Stereo batts and 1 Crank Batt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3441.jpg
Sub Amp, Stereo Batt Charger, main breaker, Inverter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3440.jpg
Shine a little light on it. Kg's camera captures the glow 100x better than mine, just wait
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3460.jpg
Outside looking in, crummy cell pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/2011-02-09154440.jpg

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 11:46 AM

Krypt 4200 EQ
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3447.jpg
Another shot of the EQ, truely a nice piece of equipment
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3451.jpg
HSE, for the lazy man
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3450.jpg
Transom Remote and Rear vent glowing away
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3424.jpg

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 11:47 AM

Front Vents, turned out beautiful. Underneath was coated with reflective material so they glow amazing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/2011-01-01191706.jpg
All the inboats had LED's added behind the grills, so the whole speaker glows
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3416.jpg
Shot if the polks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3457.jpg
More polk and led goodness
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3458.jpg

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 11:48 AM

LED in the polks, and above in the bow
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3462.jpg
Helm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3464.jpg
Roswell. Used the factory Circuit board, with 5 superflux led in each. Factory had 20 5mm. SF blow them away
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3470.jpg
Factory floor lighting changed to red with SF
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3474.jpg

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 11:49 AM

Shot one of the driver seat
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3469.jpg
Shot two. This single light really helped bring it all together. The seat caused a dark spot, this one solved it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3477.jpg
The glovebox HAD to be lit up. This is sooo nice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3417.jpg
A little trailer bling
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/2011-02-27130202.jpg

rdlangston13

02-28-2011, 11:56 AM

wow! looks very sharp! yall need to come down to houston and give me a hand on my install!

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 11:56 AM

Well we have def gone red. I took all of my pics one night as soon as we got the LEDs in. I'll have to get some none LED pics later.

It is def difficult to take pics of LEDs but I got a couple good ones that give you an idea of the glow. The red is great because it is a solid glow without any eye blinding brightness

Here are the switches we used to save some battery. Seat comes up, light goes on .. seat goes down, light goes off. Passenger seat, rear facing seat, and ski lockers.

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0154.jpg

Looking down at the bow. Lighted vents and lighted cupholders

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0150.jpg

Lit ski lockers (with the switches)

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0141.jpg

Lit above cupholders and lit speaker basket

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0130.jpg

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 11:59 AM

Redid the roswell lights to switch them out for red ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0189.jpg

Added light to the rope locker on the back swimpad ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0194.jpg

A better looking backend ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0177.jpg

The new hangout lounge at night!! Can even see the LEDs in the cooler on this pic, as well as the led in the rear facing seat storage.

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0149.jpg

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 12:01 PM

Now for the amp racks ... this is all because of Dusty! He really knocked the amp rack out of the park. Super clean install ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0156.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0163.jpg

Does it really get better than this pic?!?!?

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0158.jpg

kaneboats

02-28-2011, 12:08 PM

Wow! Just incredible, guys. Very clean install and thorough with the lighting. Gonna be a sight to behold on the water. Can't wait for some of those pics.

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 12:09 PM

A few more pics of the switches. These are ground interrupting switches. When the hatches are closed, the LED in said compartment turns off. These were added to all the lockers so no battery drain occurs. From the factory, the rear lights and locker light, and behind our driver seat came on at any time you turned the courtesy's on. Not any more!!!

Both of these are "pre-cleanup." Dont think for a second we have a single wire showing!! HAhahaha

Front Locker Switch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/2011-01-05200103.jpg
Rear Locker Switch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/2011-01-05202422.jpg

jmvotto

02-28-2011, 12:12 PM

Great work Guys, Now i need a 24 fter...

Under water leds to match.

is that transom ski ring LED legal at night for drving????might draw some attention from the Po Po

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 12:44 PM

is that transom ski ring LED legal at night for drving????might draw some attention from the Po Po

I have had 1 run in with the popo in the last 10 years on the water and it was a life jacket and fire extinguisher check. So, honestly, it never crossed my mind.

I can't remember if that light is tied in with courtesy or nav but i don't think it will cause any issues one way or the other.

I'm sure they would spot us surfing before they saw the LED :D

mmandley

02-28-2011, 12:50 PM

Real nice looking guys i can tell you spent a lot of time on it and it shows. Good clean work indeed.

kayjayfech

02-28-2011, 01:18 PM

OK...that is sick!!!! Well done!

Razzman

02-28-2011, 01:51 PM

Nice job guys! Great attention to detail, it shows. :)

sandm

02-28-2011, 02:11 PM

nice install. looks clean.
never been one that understands the led's everywhere(don't hang at the party cove), but it looks like you did a lot of planning rather than just throwing lights everywhere..

nice job and tasteful :)

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 03:09 PM

The LEDs were almost the end of our friendship. Neither of us really "needed" them. We started with above cupholders and vents only bc we thought it looked cool. Once the Roswell was converted red it was pretty much over. We decided it needed to match so we replaced all factory lights with red and then added lights to all the other storage compartments, cause thats where you need them!

Not alot of bling factor but alot of detail. Only visible light bulbs during the day are the drivers and bow cupholders and the floor lights (which are factory)

KG's Supra24

02-28-2011, 03:32 PM

Found a couple more post worthy photos ...

This is the bullet coaxial lit up

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0187.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0127.jpg

Another cockpit pic

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0137.jpg

and a zoomed out amp rack pic ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0163.jpg

And THANKS for all the comments guys! It means a lot after all the thought and work put into.

ian ashton

02-28-2011, 03:48 PM

That looks awesome - makes me want to re-build mine, again, lol!

What did you use for LED in the speakers, and where did the hatch switches come from?

dusty2221

02-28-2011, 03:57 PM

The in boat speakers all have 2 3mm leds in the grills. All lights were bought from oznium.

The switches are these:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=060-794&source=googleps

ian ashton

02-28-2011, 04:10 PM

Cool, thanks!

newty

02-28-2011, 05:56 PM

Nice work fellas! Summer is going to be fun huh?:p

kaneboats

02-28-2011, 05:58 PM

It's already fun. What are you waiting for? :)

moombadaze

02-28-2011, 07:13 PM

Top notch if ya ask me.

harmsway

02-28-2011, 10:52 PM

Super clean. It damn sure will look good coming up to the docks @ dark.

scoot_gt

02-28-2011, 11:23 PM

HSE, for the lazy man
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/dusty2221/Boat/IMG_3450.jpg

Very nice install for both you guys!

I've got an HSE to install into my 2010 LSV. I like where you mounted it. Could you post some pics of your mounting rig underneath? Any tips for installation - how did you connect the Tach signal?

viking

03-01-2011, 01:22 AM

Looks good! I knew you guys were hard at work. Was wondering if it was ever going to get finished.......ha ha!

But then again - it never is, is it :)

mcdye

03-01-2011, 09:31 AM

Superb job guys!! :)

kaneboats

03-01-2011, 10:58 AM

Looks good! I knew you guys were hard at work. Was wondering if it was ever going to get finished.......ha ha!

But then again - it never is, is it :)

You got that right. I laugh whenever I hear someone say they will just do this or that and then the house or boat will be "finished". HA HA HA! :D

saskyrider

03-01-2011, 04:14 PM

damn you guys.... setting the bar that high is not fair!!! lol!! I'm and going to be using your amp rack idea for when i set my stuff up this spring.... super clean install and love all the led's!!

Geoff

New Guy

03-01-2011, 04:53 PM

Looks Awesome Guys!! Great job.

So how many beers have been consumed sitting in the boat admiring your work in the garage??

cmtaylor777

03-01-2011, 07:16 PM

Looks awesome Kyle and Dusty. You guys did quality work. I'm sure you will be very happy with it.

wolfeman131

03-01-2011, 08:12 PM

WOW! WOW! WOW!

Fantastic work. Had I known you two were that talented, I'd have had my friends at Atlanta Marine hold Dusty's boat while I bought you beers and you installed LED's, speakers, amps, etc. to put in my ride!

mapleleaf

03-01-2011, 08:22 PM

I'm thinking the inverter is a cool add on, what would it's typical uses be? vacuum, phone charger?? trying figure what I'd do with one if I had it!!!

KG's Supra24

03-01-2011, 08:28 PM

We were getting outta ATL faster than we came in there!! Ha!

I will use the inverter mostly for airing up a large party island type raft we have as well as a tube. Yep, i said it, a tube. I'm sure it will get used as a phone charger some and the occasional margarita! :p

rdlangston13

03-02-2011, 12:08 AM

wait...whats wrong with tubes??

KG's Supra24

03-02-2011, 10:39 AM

Typical wakeboarders don't like tubes since they destroy a perfectly good cove. They are hard to resist sometimes, though.

Even wakeboarders can find a purpose for tubes though :p ...

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/forum1.jpg

KG's Supra24

03-02-2011, 12:06 PM

I wanted to lay out some setup cost bc in prior posts we did make comments about a quality DIY job at a good price. We were both blown away at the money you can quickly put into a system so we decided to go this route together. The items we started with: 4 6.5" cans, our own sub, and our own sub amp. Dusty kept his factory Kenwood amp. Of course we both had a head unit already. Other than those items we added and rewired the entire system. Here is a break down on the cost:

Amps: 510 for me and 260 for dusty

Wiring, distro block, build materials: approx 300

Speakers: 850 for me and 550 for dusty (includes towers and in boats, 10 total)

LED lights: approx 200 each

Volume controls (eq with microphone and hse): 255

For an approx total of $2,115 for me and $1,565 for dusty.

The difference in amps is because I bought a matching JL to power in boats. Difference in speakers is the difference between Bullet coaxials and Polk DB's. (i already had 4 bullets from last year so i just added 2 more). We have 4 6.5" hlcds on the tower.

If you read the prior post we had over the winter you should see we did a ton of research purchase and install wise and i really feel like the system is top notch.

We did receive a little bit of help on heavy gauge wiring from Dustys dad. I also received a TREMENDOUS amount of help from Dusty as far as installation. There is no way I could have dreamed of tackling this without him. His install was top notch. Not to mention the possible cost of paying a shop to do the job. I would guess that would run in the $3,000 ballpark but who knows, probably a full 40 hour weeks worth of work? Maybe one of the audio guru's with a shop can chime in on a ballpark price.

I even made a friend out of the deal! Ha. Thanks bud!

Razzman

03-02-2011, 12:46 PM

I'm thinking the inverter is a cool add on, what would it's typical uses be? vacuum, phone charger?? trying figure what I'd do with one if I had it!!!

I've been running a Xantrex 1000w inverter for a couple of years now and it has all kinds of uses; Running a high output 750w pump, rechargeable vac, charging phones, radios, blender, etc. The only problem with them is they do eat battery so you have to use them sparingly. If your batts drop in voltage they go into protection and won't function so you gotta watch that as well, like have a backup low volume pump, etc.

dusty2221

03-02-2011, 07:07 PM

I've had a few PM's from people asking about the LED's and what all we did, so I figured I would just post my process. Everything is powered by the factory courtesy light wiring, off of that switch, even what we added. For above the cup-holders, the Supras already had a small 3 LED unit above them, I removed this and just replaced with flexible strip. Wired directly in place of the old. Same for rear lockers, behind the driver seat locker, and the rear transom light. The only change to the wiring for the lockers was the ground wire was ran to the switch, and another ground from the switch back to the LED so when closed, the ground was interrupted and they shut off.

The vents have Flexible LED strips inside the, and I coated the entire vent cavity with a reflective material. The Roswell LED's were 5mm single LEDs from the factory, We removed them, un-soldered from the circuit board, and I put the factory ciruit boards on the drill press and drilled out room for 5 SuperFlux LED's and siliconed them in, in the patern of the stock S that is in the lenses. The glovebox, driver cup holder, and rider box in the back are all SF, which is all piggy backed off the existing runs. Some new wire had to be added to get to the locations, but it all ties into the factory setup, and every single wire is loomed and hidden. The LED's are a very slow job. Lastly, all the in-boats have two 3mm LED's behind each grill, and are wired through the mounting lip of the speakers.

Hope this clears some stuff up and will help some other DIY'ers save some coin and learn a little while doing it! I can answer anything that isn't clear, possibly with pics. Ask away!

KG's Supra24

03-02-2011, 07:17 PM

Here are pics i snapped that first night of the strip LEDs. Each strip is different length depending on its application. We filled above the cupholders with the longest length that would fit.

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0168.jpg

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/kwgarner24/DSC_0167.jpg

Clamcakes

03-06-2011, 11:40 PM

Doing a little research and found a custom kit for tow boats. This kit (Wakeboard Boat Extreme Accent Lighting Kit) includes a remote that you can use to turn the intensity down or have it flash.

I'm looking to add this kit to my boat

http://www.mfileds.com/wakeboard-light-kits.html

Clamcakes

dusty2221

03-09-2011, 10:47 AM

I've been getting some PM's about the pin switches we used, here is a direct Link:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=060-794&source=googleps

If you guys have more questions about some of the stuff we used, post it up here vs a pm if you don't mind so we can share all the info.

bergermaister

03-09-2011, 08:47 PM

Your LEDs and stereo work are awesome - no question!!!

I'm curious about how you mounted some of the LED strips and modules. 2-sided tape? Tiny screws/brackets? Self tapping?

I've done a few LED modules with tiny stainless self tapping screws and nuts/bolts which was a bit of a pain. I'm wondering how the 2-sided tape will hold up if that's the route you went. Thanks.

KG's Supra24

03-10-2011, 12:25 AM

It is double-sided tape, stuck to vinyl, aluminum and fiberglass (just about everything). They are from Ozinum. From our research, they had great reviews from the marine industry so we are hoping we don't have any issues. Only time we will tell but I'll def post up if it doesn't work out.

EarmarkMarine

03-10-2011, 10:56 AM

You should at least try to rub down the vinyl mounting surface with alcohol beforehand. These are oily materials.
In our experience the adhesives in double-face-tape will breakdown in a marine environment. Its just a matter of time. We hard mount everything. If there is no way but to use the tape you can run a silicon bead completely around the perimeter of the adhesive tape in order to seal it.
Regardless of the instructions, double-face-tape, 3M or otherwise, will not work under the swim platform or under the water line.

David
Earmark Marine

dusty2221

03-10-2011, 12:00 PM

Several of our lights are secured with silicone and several are also "hard mounted" where silicone and double sided tape didn't really fit the mounting area. For the moment, we have zero exterior lights or anything under or at the waterline. I'll try to not take the only post you have made in our thread as personal. You managed to contribute nothing positive to any of the threads KG and I had this winter regarding solid info for a DIYer's full system build and also managed to ignore the emails you personally told me to send you regarding some tuning info etc, and only decided to post when it appeared we did something the "non professional" way.

EarmarkMarine

03-10-2011, 01:17 PM

Dusty,
Easy there fella. I wasn't even thinking of your installation which is very, very nice by the way.
I was actually referencing the kit that was posted above which had one method of mounting only...double-face-tape. You might look over that kit and see.
As for your other beef, openly and freely posting on a public forum is completely different than private consultation. You behave like you are entitled to something that you are not. I have given private help to countless members but only up to the point that they're taking advantage. This is purely at my discretion.

David
Earmark Marine

meech

03-10-2011, 02:02 PM

dumb question... :)

"Volume controls (eq with microphone and hse): 255"

what benefit does the HSE give you if you already have the EQ? Just an easier way to turn the volume up/down? teach me ... !

meech

03-10-2011, 02:18 PM

never mind! i figured it out- did a quick google search... :) i got to get me one of these ...

EarmarkMarine

03-10-2011, 02:39 PM

meech,
The HSE is out of production. So you might look into the Watersport Innovations Boost Box unit. Same basic principle with a little different approach as to how it hooks up and achieves the result. Its also a good product.

David
Earmark Marine

KG's Supra24

03-10-2011, 08:23 PM

viking

03-11-2011, 10:27 PM

KG,
(or anybody for that matter) how did you tie-in all of the LED's as you wired it all up?

I was looking at these:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=082-155

I'm assuming you ran a + and - from the back of the boat to the front on each side of the boat to the power, ground, and switch. Did you use something similar as above to tie each strip or superflux light into the main wiring? Or did you even worry about a moisture seal and go with a traditional scotchlok type?

Thanks!

EarmarkMarine

03-11-2011, 11:24 PM

Viking,
Try and avoid 3M scotch lock connectors if that is what you were referencing.
Fiats were filled with them from the factory and electrical problems were constant because of them.
We like to run a couple of 18/2s around the perimeter of the boat so you potentially have two independent circuits and you can tap in anywhere you like. Its best to solder and heatshrink for minimal resistance and maximum moisture resistance. If you wanted a very small disconnect, Tyco should be a good brand.

David
Earmark Marine

bergermaister

03-12-2011, 12:27 PM

Call me cheap, but I just used a single run of 18/2ga in a loop around the boat and used solderless butt connectors. I have never cared for those in-line type connectors. I left a bit of slack in the loop and each location where I have LEDs I ran a lead down and spliced into the loop. All the wiring is tucked/tied down and hidden obviously and I don't let my boat get very wet on the inside - at least not behind the scenes where the wiring is hidden. Been 3+ years now and no electrical problems.

I used modules from superbrightleds.com - plastic housings with chrome finish and they've held up really well. Hoping to add more (and more and more!?) soon. May have to compare stuff with oznium this time.

cab13367

03-12-2011, 12:41 PM

Amazing install guys, you really went all out and it shows. So how is the Krypt EQ? Does it work as advertised?

viking

03-12-2011, 12:44 PM

any pics berg? Thanks!
I'm looking to get it done easy and cheap too..........

Don't see a need to solder since it's up and out of the elements.

Razzman

03-12-2011, 05:21 PM

If you use Heat Sealing Connectors (http://www.wiringproducts.com/contents/en-us/p631.html) you have the best of both worlds, ease of use and a sealed moisture free connection. Use as a regular butt connector then apply heat to release the sealant and seal water tight. In case anyone doubts these work, Harley-Davidson has been using these on electrical connections for eons in areas that are routinly exposed to water. I've used them myself in many applications as well and can vouch for them.

rdlangston13

03-12-2011, 07:26 PM

Razzman

03-12-2011, 08:00 PM

alot of people might not think harley davidson is a good example when referencing quality...

Then a lot of people haven't been keeping up with the times :cool:

rdlangston13

03-12-2011, 08:49 PM

I agree completely but people like my father who rides a Yamaha Raider S (which is actually a pretty sweet bike) will argue that Harley is shit till then end of time. Funny how he only drives American cars/trucks but has a Japanese bike

EarmarkMarine

03-12-2011, 10:05 PM

While we're on the Harley detour...years ago I bought a Honda 1100cc Ace. What an incredibly well made bike it was. But almost from the moment I bought it I wished for a Harley whether good or bad.

Razzman

03-13-2011, 12:10 AM

While we're on the Harley detour...years ago I bought a Honda 1100cc Ace. What an incredibly well made bike it was. But almost from the moment I bought it I wished for a Harley whether good or bad.

As many do after buying a foreign cruiser. Many buy them as they can't justify the cost of a Harley and many, like yourself, regret the decision almost immediately. I owned Harley's in the bad times and the good, hell between 2000 and 2006 I bought four new ones alone! One of them I rode 86,000 miles before giving it up.

Ok, back to the op. :D